698  
FXUS02 KWBC 291849  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
249 PM EDT TUE OCT 29 2024  
 
VALID 12Z FRI NOV 01 2024 - 12Z TUE NOV 05 2024  
 
...HEAVY RAIN THREAT FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS TO THE MID-  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TO DEVELOP THIS WEEKEND...  
 
   
..GENERAL OVERVIEW
 
 
AN UPPER TROUGH AND MODERATE SURFACE LOW WILL EJECT THROUGH THE  
NORTHEAST AND EASTERN CANADA FRIDAY OVERTOP A WARM AMBIENT UPPER  
RIDGE HELD OVER THE SOUTHEAST. A COLD FRONT WILL SWING THROUGH THE  
EASTERN U.S. TO FOCUS LINGERING SHOWERS AND USHER IN MODERATING  
POST-FRONTAL HIGH PRESSURE. THE TRAILING PORTION OF THE FRONT IS  
FORECAST TO SLOW, BUT OFFER SOME CONVECTIVE FOCUS. AN EMERGING  
HEAVY RAINFALL PATTERN THEN EMINATES UP THROUGH THE SOUTH-CENTRAL  
U.S. WITH RETURN FLOW IN A DEEPENING MOISTURE CHANNEL BETWEEN THE  
SOUTHEAST UPPER RIDGE AND THE APPROACH OF UPPER TROUGH ENERGY AND  
FRONT FROM THE WEST. TOWARDS THAT END, AFOREMENTIONED UPSTREAM  
UPPER TROUGH ENERGY WILL DIG SHARPLY INTO AN UNSETTLED WEST, WITH  
MODERATE RAINS AND ELEVATION SNOWS OVER THE NORTHWEST AND  
UNCERTAINLY SOUTHWARD TO CALIFORNIA ALONG WITH LESS ORGANIZED  
ACTIVITY TO THE INTERMOUTAIN WEST/ROCKIES. THIS PATTERN MAY LEAD TO  
CLOSED LOW DEVELOPMENT AT THE BASE OF A MAIN TROUGH.  
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODELS HAVE TRENDED SLOWER AND DEEPER WITH AN ANOMALOUS TROUGH THAT  
MAY DIG INTO THE WEST BEGINNING THIS WEEKEND. A GENERAL MODEL  
BLEND CONSISTING OF THE DETERMINISTIC 00Z EC/CMC/UKMET AND 06Z GFS  
WERE USED ON DAYS 3 AND 4, WITH HEAVY WEIGHTING PLACED ON THE EC  
AND GFS SOLUTIONS ON DAY 3, BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH MORE PROGRESSIVE  
AND IN LINE WITH THE ENSEMBLE MEANS WITH THEIR DEPICTION OF A  
CLOSED MID- LEVEL LOW DROPPING INTO THE NORTHWEST FROM THE GULF OF  
ALASKA.  
 
WEIGHTING SHIFTS TO THE GFS ON DAY 4 BECAUSE IT, MUCH LIKE ALL OF  
THE ENSEMBLE MEANS, AVOIDS CLOSING OFF A MID-LEVEL LOW OVER THE  
NORTHWEST WHILE MAINTAINING A POSITIVELY TILTED TROUGH AXIS ALONG  
THE WEST COAST. THE 00Z ECE/CMCE AND 06Z GEFS ARE INTRODUCED TO THE  
BLEND ON DAY 5 IN PLACE OF THE DETERMINISTIC CMC AND UKMET WHICH  
ARE COMPARATIVELY MUCH MORE BULLISH WITH THE WESTERN TROUGH THAN  
THE DETERMINISTIC EC/GFS AND ENSEMBLE MEANS. THE ENSEMBLE MEANS ARE  
FAVORED THROUGH THE REST OF THE PERIOD AS THEY CLUSTER FAIRLY WELL  
ON A SLOW MOVING TROUGH OVER THE CENTRAL U.S., DESPITE SOME TIMING  
SPREAD, PARTICULARLY FOUND IN THE ECE AND CMCE.  
 
THE 06Z AIFS RESEMBLES MORE OF A 00Z CMC SOLUTION WITH A CLOSED  
POSITIVELY TILTED MID-LEVEL LOW OVER THE SOUTHWEST ON DAY 6  
(MONDAY). THE GRAPHCAST LOOKS MORE LIKE THE 06Z GEFS MEAN, WHICH IS  
MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN THE REST OF THE DETERMINISTIC, ENSEMBLE AND  
ML MODELS (FUXI, PANGU, FOURCASTNET).  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
 
A HEAVY RAINFALL PATTERN SEEMS LIKELY ON TAP BY THE WEEKEND OVER  
THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND VICINITY. A WPC DAY 4/FRIDAY EXCESSIVE  
RAINFALL OUTLOOK (ERO) MARGINAL RISK AREA IS IN PLACE TO ADDRESS  
POTENTIAL, WITH THE NEW DAY 5/SATURDAY ERO INTRODUCING MARGINAL  
AND SLIGHT RISK AREAS GIVEN CONSISTENT GUIDANCE SIGNALS. EXPECT  
ACTIVITY TO EXPAND AND FOCUS ALONG A SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST AXIS  
AHEAD OF ADDITIONAL FRONTAL BOUNDARIES THIS WEEKEND AND INTO EARLY  
NEXT WEEK AS ROBUST UPPER TROUGH/CLOSED LOW ENERGY DIGS UPSTREAM  
INTO THE WEST COAST TO RE-AMPLIFY THE FLOW OVER THE LOWER 48 AND  
VICINITY. MULTIPLE DAYS OF SOUTHERLY, MOIST GULF FLOW LOOK TO  
INCREASE THE CHANCES OF MORE WIDESPREAD, HEAVY RAINFALL WITH  
FLOODING CONCERNS DESPITE DRY ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS, ESPECIALLY  
FROM THE SOUTH-CENTRAL PLAINS TO THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY.  
 
PRECIPITATION ASSOCIATED WITH PACIFIC SYSTEM APPROACH AS ENHANCED  
BY TERRAIN AND MODERATE LONG-FETCH MOISTURE IS FORECAST TO FOCUS  
AND WITH MUCH UNCERTAINTY WORK SOUTHWARD OVER THE WEST COAST LATER  
IN THE WEEK AND THROUGH THE WEEKEND, WITH HIGH- ELEVATION SNOW  
REACHING INTO FAVORED TERRAIN OF THE NORTHERN INTERMOUNTAIN  
WEST/ROCKIES AND ENHANCED RAINS REACHING DOWN INTO CALIFORNIA.  
REGARDLESS, THE COLD FRONTAL SURGE AND POSSIBLE CLOSED LOW  
DEVELOPMENT AT THE SOUTHERN BASE OF THE MAIN UPPER TROUGH WILL  
BRING IN COOLER TEMPERATURES TO MUCH OF THE WEST.  
 
KEBEDE/SCHICHTEL  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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