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FXUS02 KWBC 301844  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
244 PM EDT WED OCT 30 2024  
 
VALID 12Z SAT NOV 02 2024 - 12Z WED NOV 06 2024  
 
...MULTI-DAY HEAVY RAIN/FLOODING THREAT FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS  
TO THE MID-MISSISSIPPI VALLEY THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK...  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 12Z MODEL GUIDANCE SUITE FEATURES GOOD OVERALL  
AGREEMENT ACROSS THE CONTINENTAL U.S. GOING INTO NEXT WEEKEND,  
GIVEN A MORE AMPLIFIED UPPER FLOW PATTERN EVOLVING WITH A DEEP  
WESTERN U.S. TROUGH AND A BUILDING RIDGE AXIS EAST OF THE  
MISSISSIPPI RIVER. THIS WILL RESULT IN A PRONOUNCED TEMPERATURE  
DICHOTOMY ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WITH HIGHS RUNNING UP TO 20 DEGREES  
ABOVE EARLY NOVEMBER AVERAGES ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY EARLY NEXT  
WEEK, AND 15 DEGREES BELOW AVERAGE FOR PORTIONS OF THE  
INTERMOUNTAIN WEST. WITH RESPECT TO THE DAY 4 AND 5 EXCESSIVE  
RAINFALL OUTLOOKS, NO MAJOR CHANGES WERE NEEDED FOR THIS UPDATE,  
WITH SLIGHT RISK AREAS MAINTAINED FOR THE CENTRAL PLAINS. GOING  
INTO MONDAY, MORE NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCES EMERGE WITH THE NEXT  
TROUGH APPROACHING THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST, WITH THE ECMWF  
FASTER WITH THE TROUGH PROGRESSION. TOWARDS THE END OF THE PERIOD,  
THE MODELS STILL HAVE GREAT AGREEMENT WITH THE RIDGE NEAR THE EAST  
COAST, BUT VARY MORE ACROSS THE NORTH- CENTRAL U.S. AS THE MAIN  
TROUGH BEGINS LIFTING OUT AND THE SECOND ONE FROM THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST MOVES INLAND. THE ENSEMBLE MEANS WERE GRADUALLY INCREASED  
TO ABOUT 40% BY NEXT WEDNESDAY. THE PREVIOUS FORECAST DISCUSSION  
IS APPENDED BELOW FOR REFERENCE. /HAMRICK  
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..GENERAL OVERVIEW
 
 
AN EMERGING EXCESSIVE RAINFALL EVENT IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP IN  
EARNEST BY THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK OVER THE SOUTH-  
CENTRAL U.S. WITH RETURN GULF OF MEXICO INFLOW IN A DEEPENING  
MOISTURE CHANNEL BETWEEN A EAST/SOUTHEAST UPPER RIDGE AND SLOW  
APPROACH OF AMPLIFIED UPPER TROUGH/LOW ENERGY AND FRONT FROM THE  
WEST. TOWARDS THAT END, AFOREMENTIONED UPSTREAM UPPER TROUGH ENERGY  
WILL DIG SHARPLY ACROSS THE WESTERN U.S. THIS WEEKEND, WITH  
MODERATE RAINS AND HIGH ELEVATION SNOWS FROM THE NORTHWEST  
SOUTHWARD TO CALIFORNIA. ACTIVITY SHOULD SPREAD MORE MODESTLY TO  
THE SOUTHWEST AND THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST/ROCKIES BY EARLY NEXT  
WEEK WITH SLOW AND AMPLIFIED FLOW TRANSLATION AND ENERGY  
REINFORCEMENT AND CLOSED LOW DEVELOPMENT AT THE BASE OF THE UPPER  
TROUGH/FRONTS.  
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODELS AND ENSEMBLES HAVE TRENDED TOWARD A BETTER CLUSTERED OVERALL  
SOLUTION OVER THE COMING WEEKEND IN A PATTERN SEEMINGLY NOW WITH  
CLOSER TO AVERAGE PREDICTABILITY. A COMPOSITE MODEL BLEND TENDS TO  
MITIGATE STILL LINGERING INDIVIDUAL SYSTEM TIMING ISSUES TO OFFER A  
SEEMINGLY REASONABLE FORECAST STARTING POINT, GENERALLY IN LINE  
WITH THE NATIONAL BLEND OF MODELS AND THREAT MESSAGING CONTINUITY.  
FORECAST SPREAD INCREASES INTO LONGER TIME FRAMES, SO PIVOTED TO A  
COMPOSITE BLEND OF BEST CLUSTERED AND CYCLE TO CYCLE CONSISTENT  
GUIDANCE FROM THE 12 UTC ECMWF/CANADIAN AND THEIR ENSEMBLE MEANS.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
 
A HEAVY RAINFALL PATTERN SEEMS LIKELY ON TAP BY THE WEEKEND WITH  
MAIN FOCUS FROM THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THROUGH THE MID-MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY AND VICINITY. THE WPC DAY 4/SATURDAY AND DAY 5/SUNDAY  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOKS (EROS) CONTINUE TO OFFER MARGINAL AND  
SLIGHT RISK THREAT AREAS GIVEN CONSISTENT GUIDANCE SIGNALS, WITH A  
MODEST EXPANSION OF THE MARGINAL RISK AREAS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE  
LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE. EXPECT ACTIVITY TO EXPAND AND FOCUS ALONG A  
SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST AXIS AHEAD OF ADDITIONAL FRONTAL BOUNDARIES  
THIS WEEKEND AND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK AS ROBUST UPPER  
TROUGH/CLOSED LOW ENERGY DIGS UPSTREAM INTO THE WEST COAST TO RE-  
AMPLIFY THE FLOW OVER THE LOWER 48 AND VICINITY. MULTIPLE DAYS OF  
SOUTHERLY, MOIST GULF INFLOW LOOK TO INCREASE THE CHANCES OF MORE  
WIDESPREAD, HEAVY RAINFALL WITH FLOODING CONCERNS DESPITE DRY  
ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS, WITH A RISK OF REPEAT/TRAINING CONVECTION IN  
A SLOW TO DISLODGE AND DEEPENED MOISTURE CHANNEL BETWEEN THE  
WEST/SOUTHWEST U.S. UPPER TROUGH AND EAST/SOUTHEAST U.S. WARMING  
UPPER RIDGE. IF THE HEAVY RAINS ON DAY 5 TREND HEAVIER, OR APPEARS  
LIKELY TO FALL ON THE SAME AREAS THAT GET IMPACTFUL RAIN IN THE  
PRECEDING DAYS, AN EVENTUAL MODERATE RISK COULD BE NEEDED AS THE  
EVENT GETS CLOSER IN TIME. THE MULTI- DAY THREAT WILL LIKELY  
CONTINUE INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WHILE SPREADING NORTHEASTWARD OVER  
THE MIDWEST IN THIS PATTERN WITH THE DEEP MOISTURE LEADING TO SOME  
WARM SECTOR RECORD HIGH OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES.  
 
PRECIPITATION WITH PACIFIC SYSTEM DIGGING WILL BE LOCALLY ENHANCED  
BY TERRAIN AS MODERATE LONG-FETCH MOISTURE IS FORECAST TO WORK  
SOUTHWARD OVER THE WEST COAST THIS WEEKEND, WITH HIGH-ELEVATION  
SNOW ALSO REACHING FAVORED TERRAIN OF THE NORTHERN INTERMOUNTAIN  
WEST/ROCKIES AND ENHANCED RAINS REACHING DOWN INTO CALIFORNIA.  
REGARDLESS, THE COLD FRONTAL SURGE AND POSSIBLE CLOSED LOW  
DEVELOPMENT AT THE SOUTHERN BASE OF THE MAIN UPPER TROUGH WILL  
BRING IN COOLER TEMPERATURES TO MUCH OF THE WEST. THIS AND SLOW AND  
AMPLIFIED FLOW TRANSLATION WILL ALSO ACT TO SPREAD MORE MODEST  
RAINS OVER THE SOUTHWEST AND INTO THE SOUTH-CENTRAL GREAT BASIN AND  
ROCKIES INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. MEANWHILE, ADDITIONAL PACIFIC SYSTEM  
ENERGY UPSTREAM MAY ALSO BRING ANOTHER ROUND OF MODERATE  
PRECIPITATION BACK INTO THE NORTHWEST.  
 
SCHICHTEL/HAMRICK  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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