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FXUS02 KWBC 011853  
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
253 PM EDT FRI NOV 1 2024  
 
VALID 12Z MON NOV 04 2024 - 12Z FRI NOV 08 2024  
 
...HEAVY RAIN AND SEVERE WEATHER EXPECTED ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE  
CENTRAL U.S. INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK...  
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
THE CENTRAL U.S. WILL BE THE MOST PROMINENT FOCUS FOR ACTIVE  
WEATHER DURING PORTIONS OF NEXT WEEK. IN PARTICULAR, CONTINUING  
INTO MONDAY EXPECT AN AREA OF HEAVY RAINFALL OVER PARTS OF THE  
PLAINS/MIDWEST AS SOUTHERN PLAINS UPPER DYNAMICS EJECT  
NORTHEASTWARD WHILE THE LEADING WAVY FRONT INTERACTS WITH ABUNDANT  
MOISTURE CONTRIBUTED BY STRONG GULF INFLOW. THEN MOST GUIDANCE  
SHOWS SHORTWAVE ENERGY ARRIVING FROM THE PACIFIC AND DROPPING INTO  
THE ROCKIES/FOUR CORNERS REGION, POSSIBLY CLOSING OFF AN UPPER LOW  
AFTER MIDWEEK. THIS FEATURE MAY PRODUCE ADDITIONAL RAINFALL OVER  
THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND VICINITY LATE IN THE WEEK BUT LIKELY WITH  
LIGHTER TOTALS THAN IN THE PRECEDING EVENT. AN AREA OF RAIN AND  
HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW SHOULD PASS THROUGH THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND  
MOVE SOUTH THROUGH THE ROCKIES WITH THE PROGRESSION/EVOLUTION OF  
THE ENERGY ALOFT. THIS PATTERN WILL FAVOR VERY WARM TEMPERATURES  
(LIKELY INCLUDING SOME DAILY RECORDS) OVER THE EAST AND BELOW  
NORMAL READINGS OVER MOST OF THE INTERIOR WEST AND ROCKIES.  
MEANWHILE, THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS MONITORING POSSIBLE  
CARIBBEAN TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY EMERGE INTO THE GULF, WITH  
TYPICALLY BROAD GUIDANCE SPREAD FOR TRACK AND TIMING.  
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
UPDATED DETERMINISTIC AND ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE REMAINS IN FAIRLY GOOD  
AGREEMENT AND CONSISTENT RUN-TO-RUN ON THE LARGE-SCALE PATTERN  
THROUGH MOST OF THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD (MONDAY NOV 4 - FRIDAY NOV  
8). THE WEEK BEGINS WITH A HIGHLY AMPLIFIED PATTERN WITH STRONG  
RIDGING OVER THE EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY AND A DEEP TROUGH OVER  
THE WEST, CONTINUING A PERIOD OF MORE MERIDIONAL FLOW ALONG A WAVY  
FRONTAL SYSTEM OVER THE CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTY AIDING IN  
MOISTURE RETURN/STORM DEVELOPMENT. THE GUIDANCE THEN INDICATES LEAD  
ENERGY WILL LIFT NORTH ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE RIDGE OVER  
THE MIDWEST PROMOTING A SLOW BUT STEADY PROGRESSION OF THE FRONTAL  
SYSTEM EASTWARD, WHILE ADDITIONAL NORTHERN/SOUTHERN STREAM ENERGY  
REINFORCE MEAN TROUGHING OVER THE WESTERN U.S. BY MID-WEEK. BOTH  
DETERMINISTIC AND ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE FROM THE 06Z GFS/GEFS AND 00Z  
ECMWF/ECENS THEN INDICATE THE SOUTHERN STREAM ENERGY LEADS TO A  
CLOSED LOW OVER THE SOUTHWEST. GUIDANCE DIFFERENCES GROW BETWEEN  
THE 06Z GFS/00Z ECMWF ON THE TIMING OF LEAD NORTHERN STREAM ENERGY  
COMING OUT OF THE WEST ALONG THE NORTHERN TIER OF THE COUNTRY. THIS  
IS REFLECTED WITH A FRONTAL SYSTEM AT THE SURFACE THAT FOLLOWS A  
SLOWER, MORE SOUTHERLY TRACK IN THE ECMWF AND THE GFS FURTHER  
NORTH. IN ADDITION, THE GFS IS FASTER IN BRINGING THE CLOSED LOW IN  
THE WEST OVER THE PLAINS, LEADING TO MORE NORTHERLY/AGGRESSIVE LEE  
CYCLOGENESIS AHEAD OF THE WEEKEND WHILE THE ECMWF REMAINS TO THE  
SOUTHWEST, FAVORING PRECIPITATION CHANCES OVER THE SOUTHERN  
ROCKIES/PLAINS. THE ECMWF FITS WITHIN THE ENVELOPE OF THE  
RELATIVELY SIMILAR GEFS/ECENS MEANS, AND THE 12Z GFS CAME IN MORE  
SIMILAR TO THE ECMWF.  
 
THE OTHER AREA OF INTEREST IS WITH RESPECT TO POTENTIAL TROPICAL  
DEVELOPMENT IN THE SOUTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN THAT MAY EVENTUALLY TRACK  
NORTHWARD INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO. THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER  
IS CURRENTLY GIVING THIS SYSTEM A 70% CHANCE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE  
NEXT 7 DAYS WITH A FAVORED PATH THAT BRINGS AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE  
INTO THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE 00Z  
ECMWF/06Z GFS AND ECENS/GEFS MEANS. THE LATEST CMC WAS MUCH MORE  
AGGRESSIVE WITH THE POTENTIAL SYSTEM, BRINGING AN AREA OF LOW  
PRESSURE NORTHEASTWARD TOWARDS THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO.  
 
DESPITE THE GENERALLY GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE OVERALL PATTERN,  
SPECIFICS ON FRONTAL PLACEMENT EARLY IN THE PERIOD OVER THE CENTER  
OF THE COUNTRY STILL LEAD TO MUCH HIGHER UNCERTAINTY WITH THE QPF  
FORECAST. THE GFS/ECMWF/CMC ALL AGREE ON THE POTENTIAL FOR A  
CONTINUATION OF HEAVY RAIN MONDAY SHIFTING EASTWARD FROM THE PLAINS  
TOWARDS THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY, BUT WITH DISAGREEMENT ON THE  
LOCATION OF A POTENTIALLY NARROW PRE-FRONTAL AXIS. THIS MAY LINGER  
LONGER OVER THE SAME REGION INTO TUESDAY AS WELL, WITH THE ECMWF  
FAVORING SLOWER FRONTAL PROGRESSION AND ADDITIONAL RAINFALL.  
ADDITIONAL UNCERTAINTY ARISES AROUND THE POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY  
RAINFALL IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND THEN AT LEAST SOME RAINFALL ALONG THE  
GULF COAST WITH INCREASING MOISTURE FROM THE POTENTIAL TROPICAL  
SYSTEM MOVING INTO THE GULF, AS WELL AS WITH ADDITIONAL  
PRECIPITATION IN THE SOUTHWEST/PLAINS LATER NEXT WEEK DEPENDING ON  
THE PROGRESSION OF THE CLOSED LOW EASTWARD.  
 
THE UPDATED WPC FORECAST USED A COMPOSITE OF THE DETERMINISTIC  
GUIDANCE FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE PERIOD GIVEN GOOD AGREEMENT. A  
CONTRIBUTION OF THE ECENS/GEFS MEANS WAS USED FOR THE LATTER HALF  
OF THE PERIOD, WITH THE CMC REMOVED DUE TO THE DISAGREEMENT IN  
HANDLING THE POTENTIAL TROPICAL SYSTEM, AND A HEAVY FAVOR TOWARDS  
THE ECMCF OVER THE GFS GIVEN THE CLUSTERING OF THE ECMWF WITH THE  
ECENS/GEFS SOLUTIONS. LEANED A BIT HEAVIER ON THE MEANS EARLIER IN  
THE PERIOD FOR THE QPF FORECAST GIVEN SPATIAL DIFFERENCES IN THE  
DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE, WITH THE EXPECTATION AMOUNTS MAY INCREASE  
AS CERTAINTY IN THE FRONTAL PROGRESSION GROWS.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
 
STRONG DEEP-LAYER FLOW FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO AHEAD OF A WAVY  
FRONT PUSHING THROUGH THE CENTRAL U.S. WILL CONTRIBUTE ABUNDANT  
MOISTURE TO A HEAVY RAIN EVENT EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FROM THE  
WEEKEND INTO THE FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK. THE STORM PREDICTION  
CENTER IS ALSO MONITORING SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL OVER PARTS OF  
THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS. CURRENTLY THE RELATIVELY HIGHER  
POTENTIAL FOR REPEAT AND TRAINING CONVECTION WITH LOCALLY HIGH  
RAINFALL RATES EXTENDS FROM AROUND EASTERN OKLAHOMA/WESTERN  
ARKANSAS NORTHEASTWARD INTO NORTHERN ILLINOIS, CORRESPONDING TO THE  
SLIGHT RISK AREA IN THE DAY 4 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK. THIS  
REGION WILL INITIALLY SEE DRY GROUND CONDITIONS BUT SOME RAINFALL  
IS LIKELY IN THE SHORTER TERM LEADING INTO DAY 4, PARTICULARLY FROM  
SOUTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA/NORTHWESTERN ARKANSAS INTO CENTRAL MISSOURI.  
A MODERATE RISK MAY EVENTUALLY BE NEEDED HERE WITH MORE CONFIDENCE  
IN THE LOCATION OF THE HEAVIEST RAINFALL TOTALS AND HOW MUCH  
OVERLAP THERE IS WITH RAINFALL ON DAY 3. THE COVERAGE OF  
SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL WILL LIKELY DECREASE BY DAY 5/TUESDAY AS THE  
UPPER DYNAMICS AND PRIMARY FRONTAL WAVE CONTINUE NORTHEASTWARD.  
HOWEVER LINGERING MOISTURE/INSTABILITY MAY PROMOTE SOME ADDITIONAL  
RAINFALL, WITH CONSIDERABLE SPREAD AMONG GUIDANCE FOR AMOUNTS AND  
LOW CONFIDENCE IN MORE SIGNIFICANT HEAVIER RAINFALL TOTALS. THE DAY  
5 ERO DEPICTS A MARGINAL RISK AREA FROM THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY  
SOUTHWESTWARD AS A REASONABLE STARTING POINT GIVEN THE FORECAST  
UNCERTAINTY.  
 
INCOMING PACIFIC DYNAMICS WILL BRING AN EPISODE OF TERRAIN-  
ENHANCED RAIN AND HEAVY, HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW TO THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST EARLY IN THE WEEK WITH PRECIPITATION THEN DROPPING SOUTH  
THROUGH THE ROCKIES, PLUS WITH SOME RAINFALL DEVELOPING OVER THE  
PLAINS. SPECIFICS FOR ROCKIES/PLAINS TOTALS WILL BE SENSITIVE TO  
THE DETAILS OF FLOW ALOFT. THE SOUTHERN EXTENT OF COOLER AIR WITH  
THIS SYSTEM MAY ALSO LEAD TO SOME WINTRY PRECIPITATION OUTSIDE OF  
MOUNTAIN AREAS INTO THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS, BUT AGAIN  
WITH LOW CONFIDENCE IN COVERAGE AND ANY ACCUMULATIONS.  
 
A BROAD AREA OF WELL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL DRIFT ACROSS  
THE EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY, WITH GRADUAL PROGRESSION OF A  
COUPLE FRONTS EVENTUALLY LEADING TO SOME MODERATION BY LATE WEEK.  
WARMEST ANOMALIES SHOULD BE FOR MORNING LOWS, WITH SOME AREAS 20F  
OR MORE ABOVE NORMAL FOR ONE OR MORE DAYS, BUT DAILY RECORDS WILL  
BE POSSIBLE FOR BOTH HIGHS AND WARM LOWS DURING EARLY-MID WEEK. IN  
CONTRAST, A MAJORITY OF THE INTERIOR WEST AND ROCKIES SHOULD SEE  
CHILLY TEMPERATURES FOR MOST OF NEXT WEEK WITH READINGS TENDING TO  
BE 5-15F BELOW NORMAL.  
 
PUTNAM/RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHPSCHICHTEL/HAMRICK  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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