431  
FXUS02 KWBC 020657  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
257 AM EDT SAT NOV 2 2024  
 
VALID 12Z TUE NOV 05 2024 - 12Z SAT NOV 09 2024  
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
THE MAJORITY OF GUIDANCE SHOWS STRONG UPPER RIDGING OVER PARTS OF  
THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. AND WESTERN ATLANTIC WHILE STRONGLY DIGGING  
WESTERN U.S. TROUGH ENERGY LIKELY CLOSES OFF A LOW THAT DRIFTS OVER  
THE FOUR CORNERS BEFORE EMERGING INTO THE PLAINS BY LATE WEEK OR  
EARLY WEEKEND. THE UPPER LOW SHOULD PRODUCE AN AREA OF POTENTIALLY  
SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL OVER PARTS OF THE ROCKIES AROUND MIDWEEK AND  
THEN SPREAD RAIN OVER THE PLAINS LATER IN THE WEEK. TO THE SOUTH OF  
THE UPPER RIDGE, GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW POSSIBLE CARIBBEAN INTO  
GULF OF MEXICO TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT (BEING MONITORED BY THE  
NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER) WITH A LOT OF GUIDANCE SPREAD FOR WHERE  
THE SURFACE SYSTEM ITSELF MAY TRACK, AS WELL AS FOR THE PATH OF  
MOISTURE TO ITS NORTH/EAST. A WAVY FRONT PUSHING INTO THE  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY BY TUESDAY MAY PRODUCE SOME ENHANCED RAINFALL  
OVER THAT REGION. NORTHERN STREAM FLOW WILL SEE MODERATE  
PROGRESSION, WITH A RIDGE BUILDING INTO WESTERN CANADA AND MEAN  
TROUGHING SETTING UP FARTHER EAST. A PACIFIC TROUGH MAY APPROACH  
THE NORTHWEST BY NEXT SATURDAY.  
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
THIS FORECAST UPDATE INCORPORATED AN AVERAGE AMONG THE 12Z/18Z GFS  
AND 12Z ECMWF/UKMET FOR THE FIRST HALF OF THE PERIOD, FOLLOWED BY  
SOME INCLUSION OF THE 18Z GEFS/12Z ECENS MEANS ALONG WITH CONTINUED  
INPUT OF THE 12Z ECMWF AND EVENTUAL TRANSITION OF GFS INPUT TO ONLY  
THE 12Z RUN. THIS APPROACH REFLECTED MINIMAL GUIDANCE SUPPORT FOR  
THE MORE OPEN AND PROGRESSIVE WESTERN UPPER TROUGH IN THE  
CMC/CMCENS, WITH LESS THAN IDEAL SUPPORT FOR ITS FASTER TROPICAL  
SYSTEM PROGRESSION INTO THE EAST AS WELL. THE 18Z GFS STRAYED TO  
THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SPREAD FOR THE EJECTING FOUR CORNERS LOW.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
 
A SLOW WAVY FRONT SHOULD APPROACH/REACH THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND  
WESTERN GULF COAST BY TUESDAY-TUESDAY NIGHT, WITH CONTINUED  
POTENTIAL FOR SOME TRAINING OF MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINFALL BUT  
LIKELY TO A LESS PRONOUNCED DEGREE THAN EXPECTED JUST TO THE WEST  
IN THE SHORT RANGE. THE DAY 4 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK MAINTAINS  
A MARGINAL RISK AREA FROM THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY SOUTHWESTWARD, NOW  
EXTENDING TO THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE TEXAS COAST. THERE HAS BEEN  
SOME IMPROVEMENT FOR GUIDANCE CLUSTERING REGARDING WHERE THE  
RELATIVE MAXIMUM OF RAINFALL SHOULD BE WITHIN THIS REGION (ALONG  
AND JUST EAST OF AN AREA FROM EASTERN ARKANSAS INTO FAR SOUTHERN  
ILLINOIS). HOWEVER GROUND CONDITIONS ARE GENERALLY NEUTRAL TO DRY  
AND THE GFS/ECMWF DO NOT SUGGEST TOO MUCH INSTABILITY REACHING THAT  
FAR NORTH. THUS FOR NOW WILL MAINTAIN JUST THE MARGINAL RISK AREA  
WHILE MONITORING FOR SIGNALS OF ANY HEAVIER BANDS THAT COULD FAVOR  
AN UPGRADE.  
 
ESPECIALLY BY WEDNESDAY, GUIDANCE DIVERGES CONSIDERABLY REGARDING  
THE DETAILS OF ANOMALOUS MOISTURE/HEAVIER RAINFALL THAT MAY  
OVERSPREAD PARTS OF THE SOUTHEAST/FLORIDA TO THE NORTH OF THE  
POSSIBLE CARIBBEAN INTO GULF TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS WILL DEPEND  
ON FINER SCALE DETAILS OF UPPER RIDGING WHOSE WESTERN SIDE WILL  
DETERMINE HOW MUCH MOISTURE/SHORTWAVE ENERGY MAY LIFT NORTHWARD. THE  
MOST COMMON THEME IS FOR SIGNIFICANT PRECIPITABLE WATER ANOMALIES  
TO REACH PORTIONS OF THE FLORIDA PENINSULA AT THE VERY LEAST, SO  
THE DAY 5 ERO STARTS OUT WITH A MARGINAL RISK AREA OVER THE  
SOUTHERN TWO-THIRDS OF FLORIDA. OTHER PARTS OF THE SOUTHEAST MAY  
ULTIMATELY BE INCLUDED DEPENDING ON GUIDANCE TRENDS. GUIDANCE  
SPREAD FOR WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS MOISTURE AND THE POSSIBLE GULF  
FEATURE AFTER THURSDAY IS STILL VERY WIDE, KEEPING CONFIDENCE LOW.  
 
UPPER TROUGH DYNAMICS LIKELY CLOSING OFF AN UPPER LOW AROUND THE  
FOUR CORNERS SHOULD PUSH AN AREA OF MOUNTAIN SNOW SOUTHWARD  
THROUGH THE ROCKIES, WITH HIGHEST TOTALS LIKELY TO BE OVER SOUTHERN  
COLORADO/NORTHERN NEW MEXICO BASED ON THE CURRENT FORECAST PATH OF  
THE UPPER LOW. SOME SNOW COULD EXTEND INTO PARTS OF THE HIGH  
PLAINS. EXPECT RAINFALL OVER THE PLAINS TO INCREASE IN COVERAGE AND  
INTENSITY AFTER MIDWEEK AS THE FOUR CORNERS UPPER LOW BEGINS TO  
DRIFT EASTWARD. THERE IS STILL UNCERTAINTY FOR THE DETAILS, BUT  
GRADUALLY INCREASING CONFIDENCE IN SOME AREAS OF HEAVIER RAINFALL.  
 
A LARGE PORTION OF THE EASTERN U.S. WILL SEE WELL ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES, ESPECIALLY FROM TUESDAY INTO THURSDAY MORNING WHEN  
SOME AREAS WILL SEE PLUS 20F OR GREATER ANOMALIES (MORE FOR MORNING  
LOWS VERSUS DAYTIME HIGHS) ALONG WITH POTENTIAL FOR DAILY RECORDS  
FOR HIGHS/WARM LOWS. FRONTAL PROGRESSION WILL TEMPER THE MOST  
EXTREME ANOMALIES BUT PERSISTENT SOUTHEAST UPPER RIDGING SHOULD  
KEEP THE SOUTHERN TWO-THIRDS OF THE EAST ABOVE NORMAL THROUGH  
FRIDAY-SATURDAY. IN CONTRAST, THE UPPER TROUGH/LOW LIKELY AFFECTING  
THE WEST/ROCKIES FOR MULTIPLE DAYS SHOULD PRODUCE CHILLY  
TEMPERATURES FOR MOST OF NEXT WEEK WITH HIGHS OF 10-20F BELOW  
NORMAL MOST COMMON WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHPSCHICHTEL/HAMRICK  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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