891  
FXUS02 KWBC 090702  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
202 AM EST SAT NOV 9 2024  
 
VALID 12Z TUE NOV 12 2024 - 12Z SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
... ANOTHER ATMOSPHERIC RIVER TO BRING HEAVY RAIN AND MOUNTAIN  
SNOW THREATS TO PARTS OF THE NORTHWEST MID NEXT WEEK...  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
A REASONABLY PROGRESSIVE PATTERN IS FORECAST NEXT WEEK AS A SERIES  
OF SHORTWAVES PROGRESS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AN INITIAL SHORTWAVE  
SHOULD EXIT THE NORTHEAST BY WEDNESDAY AS ANOTHER DEEPER TROUGH  
MOVES INTO THE CENTRAL U.S. AND EVENTUALLY THE EAST LATE WEEK. THIS  
MAY BRING SOME MUCH NEEDED PRECIPITATION TO PARTS OF THE MID-  
ATLANTIC TO NORTHEAST. OUT WEST, AN ATMOSPHERIC RIVER IS FORECAST  
TO IMPACT PARTS OF THE NORTHWEST AROUND MID-WEEK BRINGING HEAVY  
RAIN AND SNOW THREATS, WITH ADDITIONAL ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION  
LATER IN THE WEEK WITH POSSIBLE TROUGH RELOADING ALONG THE COAST.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE FIRST SHORTWAVE EXITING THE NORTHEAST SHOWS GOOD AGREEMENT IT  
SHOULD ACCELERATE NORTHWARD THROUGH THE CANADIAN MARITIMES, BUT THE  
12Z ECMWF WAS AN OUTLIER IN SHOWING CUT OFF ENERGY LINGERING OFF  
THE COAST AND EVENTUALLY COMBINING WITH THE NEXT SYSTEM. THAT NEXT  
SYSTEM SHOWS BETTER AGREEMENT TODAY COMPARED TO PREVIOUS RUNS ON  
THE AMPLITUDE AND TIMING AS IT MOVES INTO THE EAST MID TO LATE  
WEEK, BUT LOTS OF UNCERTAINTY ON POSSIBLE CUT OFF ENERGY OFF THE  
NORTHEAST BY NEXT WEEKEND. A DEEPER TROUGH WILL CROSS THE WEST  
COAST AROUND THURSDAY, AND THERE ARE QUESTIONS ON TIMING OF THIS  
SYSTEM AS IT MOVES ACROSS THE WEST FRIDAY-SATURDAY. THE CMC IS  
QUICKEST TO BRING THE TROUGH INLAND, WHILE THE ECMWF DEEPENS THE  
SYSTEM PULLING IT FARTHER SOUTH INTO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND THUS  
MUCH SLOWER TO MOVE THE ENERGY INLAND. PREFER A BLEND OF THE  
ENSEMBLE MEANS FOR NOW WHICH ARE A NICE MIDDLE GROUND SOLUTION. THE  
EVOLUTION OUT WEST HAS IMPLICATIONS ON TIMING OF A DOWNSTREAM  
RIDGE INTO THE EAST NEXT WEEKEND.  
 
THE WPC BLEND FOR TONIGHT FAVORED A GENERAL MODEL BLEND FOR THE  
FIRST HALF OF THE PERIOD, GRADUALLY TRANSITIONING TO A SLIGHT  
MAJORITY BLEND OF THE ENSEMBLE MEANS (WITH THE ECMWF AND GFS) LATE  
PERIOD. OVERALL, THIS MAINTAINED GOOD CONTINUITY WITH THE PREVIOUS  
WPC FORECAST.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
 
THE MAIN CONCERN FOR WEATHER HAZARDS WILL BE WITH A MODEST  
ATMOSPHERIC RIVER SET TO BEGIN IMPACTING THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST BY  
TUESDAY AND MAY LAST A FEW DAYS. HEAVY RAINFALL AND MOUNTAIN SNOWS  
ARE EXPECTED, AND WITH AN AR EXPECTED IN THE SHORT RANGE PERIOD,  
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL AND FLOODING IS POSSIBLE AND SO A MARGINAL RISK  
IS INCLUDED ON BOTH THE DAY 4/TUESDAY AND DAY 5/WEDNESDAY FOR PARTS  
OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND FARTHER SOUTH INTO NORTHERN  
CALIFORNIA AS THE AR SLOWLY SHIFTS SOUTHWARD MID-WEEK. ACCUMULATED  
SNOW MAY BECOME HEAVY IN THE CASCADES AS THE WEEK PROGRESSES, WITH  
MODEST SNOW AMOUNTS INTO THE NORTHERN ROCKIES.  
 
THE UPPER TROUGH AFFECTING THE WEST EARLY IN THE WEEK WILL  
PROGRESS EASTWARD AND BRING SOME AREAS OF MUCH NEEDED PRECIPITATION  
TO THE EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY DURING AT LEAST PARTS OF THE  
TUESDAY- THURSDAY PERIOD. MINOR MODEL DISAGREEMENTS IN THE TROUGH  
POSITION/EVOLUTION DO CAUSE SOME SPREAD FOR THE POSITIONING OF  
PRECIPITATION ON INDIVIDUAL DAYS, BUT ON A BROAD SCALE, MODEST  
PRECIPITATION SHOULD AFFECT PARTS OF THE PLAINS AND MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY TUESDAY, SPREADING INTO THE MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES AND  
OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS TO APPALACHIANS WEDNESDAY, AND TOWARD THE  
EASTERN SEABOARD THURSDAY. MOST PRECIPITATION LOOKS TO FALL AS RAIN  
GIVEN THE WARMER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES, UNTIL SOME ICE AND SNOW  
ARE POSSIBLE IN HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST MID-  
TO LATER WEEK. THE SURFACE LOW TRACK ASSOCIATED WITH THIS TROUGH  
NEAR THE GREAT LAKES COULD SPREAD MODERATE TO HIGH WINDS ESPECIALLY  
OVER THE WATERS BUT POSSIBLY FOR SOME LAND AREAS LIKE MICHIGAN'S  
UPPER PENINSULA.  
 
WHILE SYSTEM PROGRESSION WILL PROVIDE SOME DAY-TO-DAY VARIABILITY,  
MUCH OF THE CENTRAL TO EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY SHOULD SEE  
ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES MUCH OF THE WEEK. TEMPERATURES ARE  
FORECAST TO MODERATE BEHIND A COLD FRONT ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES  
REGION TUESDAY AND OVER MUCH OF THE EASTERN SEABOARD WEDNESDAY, AND  
FINALLY IN THE EAST- CENTRAL U.S. THURSDAY BEHIND THE SECONDARY  
COLD FRONT. MEANWHILE LINGERING SNOW COVER IN THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN  
ROCKIES WILL PROMOTE COOLER THAN NORMAL HIGHS THERE. THE WEST  
OTHERWISE SHOULD GENERALLY NEAR TO A BIT BELOW NORMAL.  
 
SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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