052  
FXUS02 KWBC 161900  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
200 PM EST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
VALID 12Z TUE NOV 19 2024 - 12Z SAT NOV 23 2024  
   
..HEAVY RAIN LIKELY FOR THE CENTRAL GULF COAST TUESDAY  
 
...HEAVY PRECIPITATION WITH LONG DURATION ATMOSPHERIC RIVER(S) IN  
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND NORTHERN CALIFORNIA...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
A RATHER ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN IS EXPECTED TO BE IN PLACE ACROSS  
THE LOWER 48 NEXT WEEK. A LARGE CUTOFF UPPER LOW IS LIKELY TO  
DEVELOP OVER THE GREAT LAKES AND OHIO VALLEY REGION BY THE SECOND  
HALF OF THE WEEK, WHICH WILL BRING IN COOLER TEMPERATURES ALONG  
WITH WINDIER CONDITIONS AS A SURFACE LOW TRACKS ACROSS THAT REGION  
TOWARD THE NORTHEAST. AHEAD OF THIS CONSOLIDATING UPPER LOW,  
ENHANCED TROPICAL MOISTURE WILL ADVECT NORTHWARD ACROSS THE GULF  
AND BRING THE POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY RAIN AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD  
FRONT FOR PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND THE FLORIDA  
PENINSULA ON TUESDAY. MEANWHILE, NORTHEASTERN PACIFIC SURFACE LOWS  
ARE FORECAST TO BRING IN HEAVY PRECIPITATION TO THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST AND NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AS ONE OR MORE STRONG ATMOSPHERIC  
RIVERS TAKE AIM AT THE COASTAL AREAS.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
MODEL AGREEMENT IS PRETTY GOOD WITH THE LARGER SCALE FEATURES OF  
THE PATTERN THROUGH MUCH OF NEXT WEEK. CONSOLIDATING ENERGIES FROM  
THE FOUR CORNERS REGION, SOUTH-CENTRAL CANADA, AND PERHAPS  
RETROGRADING FROM THE GREAT LAKES WILL PRODUCE A DEEPENING UPPER  
LOW MOVING ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES/OHIO VALLEY AROUND THURSDAY,  
AROUND 2 STANDARD DEVIATIONS BELOW NORMAL FOR 500MB HEIGHTS. THE  
UPPER LOW SHOULD BE SLOW TO MOVE EASTWARD INTO LATE WEEK, AND  
MODELS VARY SOMEWHAT WITH THE LOW'S EVENTUAL PLACEMENT SOMEWHERE  
OVER THE NORTHEASTERN U.S. OR NEARBY SOUTHEASTERN CANADA OR WESTERN  
ATLANTIC. ASSOCIATED SURFACE LOWS HAVE SIMILAR SPREAD BUT OVERALL  
A MODEL/MEAN BLEND SEEMED TO BE A GOOD MIDDLE GROUND FOR THESE  
FEATURES.  
 
MEAN UPPER RIDGING IS FORECAST TO SET UP OVER THE INTERIOR WEST  
BEHIND THE EASTERN UPPER LOW. BY LATER WEEK THE NORTHEASTWARD  
EXTENT OF THE RIDGE IS IN QUESTION DEPENDING ON WHERE THE EASTERN  
UPPER LOW ENDS UP. THEN INTO THE EASTERN PACIFIC, THE FIRST COMPACT  
UPPER LOW AND DEEP SURFACE LOW AROUND MIDWEEK ARE IN REASONABLY  
GOOD AGREEMENT AMONG MODELS, YIELDING HIGHER CONFIDENCE IN THE  
STRONG AR, THOUGH THE NEWER 12Z GFS DOES HAVE THE AR TAKING AIM  
FARTHER NORTH OF THE NON-NCEP MODELS BY WEDNESDAY. SECONDARY LOWS  
SHOW MORE SPREAD IN THE MODELS. THE ECMWF HAS AN UPPER LOW AND  
SURFACE LOW RATHER CLOSE TO THE COAST BY FRIDAY, WHICH WPC LEANED  
AGAINST AS IT WAS AGAINST CONSENSUS OF OTHER MODELS AND AI/ML  
MODELS. THE NEWER 12Z GFS AND ECMWF FORTUNATELY SEEM TO BE IN  
BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THIS SYSTEM.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST WAS BASED ON A BLEND OF THE DETERMINISTIC MODELS  
EARLY IN THE PERIOD, WITH A GRADUAL INCREASE OF THE ENSEMBLE MEANS  
TO HALF BY DAY 6 AND 60 PERCENT DAY 7 AMID INCREASING MODEL SPREAD.  
THIS SHOWED REASONABLE CONTINUITY FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
 
AS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS TUESDAY, DEEP TROPICAL MOISTURE  
(PWS LIKELY OVER THE 95TH IF NOT 99TH PERCENTILE) IN PART FROM WHAT  
IS CURRENTLY TROPICAL STORM SARA WELL TO THE SOUTH WILL SURGE INTO  
THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT. INSTABILITY SHOULD  
HELP CREATE HEAVY RAIN RATES OF MULTIPLE INCHES PER HOUR ACROSS THE  
CENTRAL GULF COAST AND THERE IS SOME POTENTIAL FOR BACKBUILDING  
STORMS. A SLIGHT RISK REMAINS IN PLACE FOR PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL  
GULF COAST INTO THE SOUTHEAST. EXPECT THE SOUTHERN SIDE TO BE A  
HIGH-END SLIGHT RISK, THOUGH STORM MOTION POTENTIALLY BEING ON THE  
FASTER SIDE COULD LIMIT WIDESPREAD OR SIGNIFICANT FLOODING CONCERNS  
THAT WOULD BE MORE TO MODERATE RISK LEVELS.  
 
FOR THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST, MULTIPLE DAYS OF HEAVY PRECIPITATION  
ASSOCIATED WITH ATMOSPHERIC RIVERS AHEAD OF SLOW MOVING PACIFIC  
FRONTS SHOULD LEAD TO SEVERAL INCHES OF QPF ACCUMULATING FROM  
NORTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA TO THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA. THE PEAK OF THE  
AR IS LIKELY TO COME ONSHORE AROUND TUESDAY NIGHT, AND LOOKS TO  
STALL ON WEDNESDAY AS A MESOSCALE FRONTAL WAVE PROPAGATING ALONG  
THE FRONT CAUSES IT TO MEANDER. ADDED A SLIGHT RISK TO THE DAY  
5/WEDNESDAY ERO FOR THIS FORECAST CYCLE, AS MANY HOURS OF RAIN THAT  
MAY HAVE 1" PER HOUR RAIN RATES COULD FALL IN THE SAME AREAS. BURN  
SCARS WILL BE PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE TO HEAVY RAIN THAT OCCURS.  
DESPITE SOME CONTINUED MODEL SPREAD IN EXACTLY WHERE THE MOISTURE  
PLUME WILL STALL, DREW IN THE SLIGHT RISK FROM NORTHWESTERN  
CALIFORNIA TO SOUTHWESTERN OREGON WHERE THE BEST MODEL CONSENSUS  
IS. ONSHORE FLOW IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE INTO LATER WEEK FOR  
ADDITIONAL COASTAL HEAVY RAIN AND HIGHER ELEVATION (CASCADES) HEAVY  
SNOW.  
 
A DYNAMIC STORM SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP OVER THE OHIO VALLEY  
AND THEN ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST U.S. AS A DEEP UPPER  
LOW FORMS, ALONG WITH A REASONABLY DEEP SURFACE LOW. THE COLD AIR  
ALOFT FROM THE UPPER LOW, IN COMBINATION WITH INCREASING MOISTURE,  
WILL LIKELY RESULT IN THE FIRST SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL OF THE SEASON  
FOR THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS, AND PERHAPS SOME LAKE-ENHANCED AND  
HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW IN THE NORTHEAST FRIDAY-SATURDAY. WINDY  
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THE NORTHERN PLAINS TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY  
BEHIND THE SURFACE LOW, WITH SOME BREEZY CONDITIONS INTO THE EAST-  
CENTRAL AND POSSIBLY EASTERN U.S. HEAVY RAIN MAY IMPACT THE  
NORTHEAST COASTAL AREAS AS WELL, WITH AMOUNTS PARTIALLY DEPENDENT  
ON THE DEPTH AND POSITION OF THE SURFACE LOW AS IT MAY REDEVELOP  
OFFSHORE.  
 
TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO BE QUITE CHILLY ACROSS THE ROCKIES  
AND ADJACENT PORTIONS OF THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST AND THEN PLAINS IN  
THE WAKE OF COLD FRONTAL PASSAGES, WITH A STRONG SURFACE HIGH  
BUILDING IN. SOME OVERNIGHT LOWS COULD BE NEAR OR EVEN BELOW ZERO  
FOR PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN ROCKIES TUESDAY AND  
WEDNESDAY MORNINGS. WESTERN AREAS ARE FORECAST TO WARM TO ABOVE  
NORMAL INTO LATER WEEK AS UPPER RIDGING DEVELOPS. MEANWHILE, WARM  
AND HUMID PRE-FRONTAL CONDITIONS ARE LIKELY FOR THE GULF COAST AND  
TO THE SOUTHEAST U.S. WITH DEEP SOUTHERLY FLOW FROM THE TROPICS  
THROUGH MIDWEEK. PRE-FRONTAL WARMTH FARTHER INLAND ACROSS THE EAST-  
CENTRAL U.S. AND EAST/NORTHEAST WILL BE FOLLOWED BY A RETURN TO  
MUCH COOLER FALL-LIKE CONDITIONS TO CLOSE OUT THE WORKWEEK.  
 
TATE/HAMRICK  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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