019  
FOUS30 KWBC 190009  
QPFERD  
 
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
709 PM EST MON NOV 18 2024  
 
DAY 1  
VALID 01Z TUE NOV 19 2024 - 12Z TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST  
LOUISIANA INTO SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...  
 
01Z UPDATE...  
ONLY CHANGE IN THIS UPDATE WAS THE REMOVAL OF THE MARGINAL RISK  
AREA ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS NOW THAT THE HIGHER RAINFALL RATES  
HAVE ENDED OR MOVED OUT OF THE AREA. THE ON-GOING SLIGHT RISK AND  
MARGINAL RISK AREAS ACROSS PARTS OF LOUISIANA AND MISSISSIPPI  
STILL LOOKS TO BE ON- TRACK WITH CONVECTION APPROACHING THE WESTERN  
BOUNDARY OF THE MARGINAL RISK AREA. THE 18Z RRFS ENSEMBLE DEPICTS  
HEAVIEST RAINFALL AMOUNTS AND RAINFALL RATES IN THE 19/06Z TO  
19/12Z PERIOD AND SUPPORTS THE FORECAST OF 2 TO 4 INCH AMOUNTS.  
ONLY MINOR ADJUSTMENTS WERE NEEDED IN TERMS OF PLACEMENT. A  
LOCALIZED AND MOSTLY URBAN FLASH FLOOD THREAT WILL EXIST WITH THE  
BANDS OF HEAVIEST RAINFALL THIS EVENING. REFERENCE MESOSCALE  
PRECIPITATION DISCUSSION 1157 FOR ADDITIONAL DETAILS.  
 
BANN  
 
16Z UPDATE...  
 
ONLY CHANGES OF NOTE FOR THIS UPDATE WERE TO TRIM BACK THE MARGINAL  
RISK AREA ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS TO ACCOUNT FOR WHERE THE  
RAINFALL HAS ENDED OR IS ABOUT TO COME TO AN END. ELSEWHERE, ONLY  
MINOR ADJUSTMENTS WERE MADE TO THE MARGINAL AND SLIGHT RISK AREAS  
NEAR THE CENTRAL GULF COAST WHERE THE LATEST HIRES MODEL GUIDANCE  
CONTINUES TO SUPPORT A HEAVY AND LOCALLY EXCESSIVE RAINFALL THREAT.  
 
ORRISON  
 
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...  
   
..CENTRAL GULF COAST
 
 
AN AXIS OF MUCH ABOVE AVERAGE TROPICAL PW VALUES EXPECTED TO BE  
DRAWN RAPIDLY NORTHEASTWARD FROM THE REMNANTS OF SARA, ACROSS THE  
CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO AND INTO THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AHEAD OF THE  
NEGATIVELY TILTED CLOSED LOW EJECTING NORTHEASTWARD FROM THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY DAY 1. THESE  
ANOMALOUS TROPICAL PW VALUES, 3 TO 4+ STANDARD DEVIATIONS ABOVE THE  
MEAN WILL ENHANCE CONVECTION ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT  
PUSHING EASTWARD ACROSS THE GULF COAST, PRIMARILY DURING THE SECOND  
HALF OF DAY 1 FROM SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA INTO SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI.  
A SLIGHT RISK AREA WAS MAINTAINED WHERE THE LATEST HREF  
NEIGHBORHOOD PROBABILITIES ARE HIGHEST FOR 2 AND 3"+ AMOUNTS. THE  
SIMULATED HI RES RADARS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT IN SHOWING POTENTIAL  
FOR A PERIOD OF TRAINING OF CELLS IN THIS ANOMALOUS PW AXIS IN THE  
0000-1200 UTC TUESDAY TIME PERIOD ACROSS THE SLIGHT RISK AREA OF  
SOUTHEAST LA INTO SOUTHERN MS. IN AREAS OF TRAINING, HOURLY  
RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 1-2"+ POSSIBLE, RESULTING IN FLASH FLOODING,  
ESPECIALLY IN THE URBANIZED AREAS OF NEW ORLEANS.  
   
..CENTRAL PLAINS
 
 
ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TO CENTRAL PLAINS TOWARD THE UPPER MS VALLEY...THERE  
IS FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT ON AN AXIS OF HEAVY RAIN FROM NORTHERN  
OK, ACROSS MUCH OF KS, EASTERN NE, NORTHWEST MO, SOUTHEAST SD, MUCH  
OF IA, SOUTHERN MN INTO SOUTHWEST WI IN A REGION OF STRONG  
ISENTROPIC LIFT AHEAD OF THE DEEPENING SURFACE LOW MOVING QUICKLY  
NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS THESE AREAS. WHILE WIDESPREAD HEAVY AMOUNTS  
ARE LIKELY, HOURLY RATES WILL ARE MOSTLY DEPICTED AS .25-50"+ IN  
THE LATEST HI RES GUIDANCE. THIS SHOULD KEEP THE THREAT OF ANY  
RUNOFF ISSUES AT MARGINAL. THE PREVIOUS MARGINAL RISK AREA WAS  
TRIMMED ON THE EASTERN END, TAKING OUT MUCH OF IA, MO AND EASTERN  
OK. THE CURRENT MARGINAL RISK COINCIDES WELL WITH THE AXIS OF THE  
HIGHEST HREF 2"+ DAY 1 PROBABILITIES.  
 
ORAVEC  
 
DAY 2  
VALID 12Z TUE NOV 19 2024 - 12Z WED NOV 20 2024  
 
...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF  
THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND FOR PORTIONS OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA AND  
SOUTHWEST OREGON...  
 
20Z UPDATE: A SLIGHT RISK WAS ADDED TO COASTAL NORTHWEST CA INTO  
SOUTHWEST OR. AN ATMOSPHERIC RIVER WILL BEGIN IMPACTING THIS AREA  
TUESDAY NIGHT, AND WE SHOULD SEE THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME INTENSE  
RAINFALL RATES AS THE COLD FRONT MOVES ASHORE. SEVERAL 12Z HREF  
MEMBERS INDICATE A WELL DEFINED NARROW BAND OF LOW TOPPED  
CONVECTION ALONG THIS FRONT THAT WILL BE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING  
HEAVY RAINFALL RATES ALONG COASTAL AREAS. BOTH THE HREF AND REFS  
SHOW A HIGH PROBABILITY OF 0.5" PER HOUR RAINFALL AS THE FRONT  
MOVES INLAND. THE CONVECTIVE INTENSITY SHOULD WEAKEN AS IT MOVES  
INLAND, HOWEVER SOME OF THAT WILL BE OFFSET BY OROGRAPHIC  
ENHANCEMENT...SO WHILE 1" PER HOUR PROBABILITIES DROP OFF OVER  
LAND COMPARED TO OVER WATER, THERE ARE STILL SOME LOW END  
PROBABILITIES. RAINFALL THROUGH 12Z WED WILL GENERALLY BE IN THE  
2-5" RANGE OVER THE SLIGHT RISK, WHICH COMBINED WITH THE HIGH RATE  
POTENTIAL SUGGESTS A SLIGHT RISK UPGRADE IS WARRANTED AS SOME  
FLOODING CONCERNS COULD ARISE TUESDAY NIGHT.  
 
ONLY MINOR CHANGES MADE TO THE SLIGHT RISK OVER THE CENTRAL GULF  
COAST AS THAT LOOKS ON TRACK.  
 
CHENARD  
   
..PREVIOUS DISCUSSION
 
 
THE CONVECTION THAT IS EXPECTED TO ENHANCE ALONG THE CENTRAL GULF  
COAST LATE DAY 1, WILL CONTINUE INTO DAY 2 AS THE SURFACE FRONT  
CONTINUES TO PUSH EAST ALONG THE GULF COAST. THE TROPICAL PW  
VALUES ENTRAINED AHEAD OF THIS FRONT DAY 1, WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH  
ACROSS CENTRAL TO EASTERN GULF COAST DAY 2. TRAINING OF CELLS IN A  
SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION LIKELY TO CONTINUE TUESDAY  
MORNING FROM SOUTHEAST LA INTO FAR SOUTHERN MS, FAR SOUTHERN AL AND  
THE WESTERN FL PANHANDLE. THERE IS SOME TIMING DIFFERENCES AS TO  
WHETHER HEAVY RAINS WILL CONTINUE IN THE VICINITY OF NEW ORLEANS  
EARLY TUESDAY, OR HAVE PRESSED JUST TO THE EAST. THE NEW ORLEANS  
METRO AREA WAS KEPT IN THE SLIGHT RISK GIVEN POTENTIAL FOR AN  
OVERLAP OF DAY 1 AND DAY 2 HEAVY RAIN AREAS. THE LATEST HREF 12  
HOUR NEIGHBORHOOD PROBABILITIES ENDING 00Z WED SHOW THE HIGHEST  
PROBABILITIES FOR 2 AND 3"+ AMOUNTS REMAINING ACROSS FAR SOUTHEAST  
LA, FAR SOUTHERN MS, FAR SOUTHERN AL AND THE WESTERN FL PANHANDLE.  
THIS WAS THE REGION DEPICTED IN A SLIGHT RISK FOR DAY 2, WITH THE  
PREVIOUS RISK AREA TRIMMED ON THE NORTHERN END ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL  
AL AFTER COLLABORATION WITH WFO MOB. THE SLIGHT RISK AREA  
CORRESPONDS WITH THE HI RES CONSENSUS FOR THE GREATEST HOURLY  
TOTALS OF 1-2"+ IN REGIONS OF TRAINING.  
   
..COASTAL WASHINGTON, OREGON AND FAR NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA
 
 
MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE RAPID CYCLOGENESIS EVENT  
ACROSS THE NORTHEAST PACIFIC OFF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST. THE  
LOW LEVEL SOUTHERLY FLOW ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE ASSOCIATED COLD  
FRONT WILL BECOME VERY ANOMALOUS TUESDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY  
WEDNESDAY, WITH 850-700 MB MOISTURE FLUX ANOMALIES OF 3-4 STANDARD  
DEVIATIONS ABOVE THE MEAN IMPACTING THE PAC NW/FAR NORTHWEST CA  
COAST. A WELL DEFINED AREA OF FRONTAL PRECIP LIKELY TO PUSH INLAND  
ACROSS COASTAL PAC NW/FAR NORTHWEST CA AFTER 0000 UTC. HOURLY  
RAINFALL RATES IN THE .25-50"+ RANGE POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY ACROSS  
SOUTHWEST OREGON INTO FAR NORTHWEST CA WHERE THE STRONG SOUTHERLY  
LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL HAVE A BETTER UPSLOPE COMPONENT. FOR AREAS OF  
NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA INTO FAR SOUTHWEST OREGON, THIS WILL BE THE  
BEGINNING OF A MULTI DAY ATMOSPHERIC RIVER EVENT. NO CHANGES MADE  
TO THE MARGINAL RISK AREA FROM THE PREVIOUS ISSUANCE.  
 
ORAVEC  
 
DAY 3  
VALID 12Z WED NOV 20 2024 - 12Z THU NOV 21 2024  
 
...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS  
OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...  
 
20Z UPDATE: UPGRADED PORTIONS OF NORTHWEST CA TO A MDT RISK WITH  
THIS UPDATE. THIS IS GENERALLY FOR THE SAME AREA THAT WAS ALREADY  
UNDER A DAY 4 MDT RISK. THE STALLED ATMOSPHERIC RIVER WILL RESULT  
IN PROLONGED MODERATE TO AT TIMES HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS THE AREA  
WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT. MOST OF THE MDT RISK AREA WILL SEE  
4-8" OF RAIN FROM THE EVENT THROUGH 12Z THURSDAY, WITH SOME OF THE  
MORE OROGRAPHICALLY FAVORED PEAKS AROUND 10". WHILE NOT PERSISTENT  
THROUGH THE ENTIRE PERIOD, RAINFALL RATES WILL LIKELY PERIODICALLY  
EXCEED 0.5" IN AN HOUR. THE FLOODING THREAT WILL INCREASE THROUGH  
THE PERIOD AS CONDITIONS BECOME SATURATED AND STREAM/RIVER LEVELS  
RISE. LOCALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS WILL BE POSSIBLE, WITH THE EVENT  
CONTINUING INTO DAY 4 (THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT) AS WELL.  
 
CHENARD  
   
..PREVIOUS DISCUSSION
 
 
THE MULTI DAY ATMOSPHERIC RIVER EVENT THE BEGAN LATE DAY 2 FOR FAR  
SOUTHWEST OREGON INTO NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA WILL CONTINUE DAY 3. THE  
RAPIDLY DEEPENING DAY 2 LOW OVER THE NORTHEAST PACIFIC WILL ANCHOR  
A NEARLY STATIONARY UPPER VORTEX OFF THE PAC NW COAST DAY 3. STRONG  
PERSISTENT DEEP LAYERED WEST SOUTHWEST FLOW ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF  
THIS VORTEX WILL IMPACT NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA INTO FAR SOUTHWEST  
OREGON DAY 3. WITH IVT VALUES OF 500-800 KM/M-1 S-2. AND 850-700 MB  
MOISTURE FLUX ANOMALIES OF 2-4 STANDARD DEVIATIONS ABOVE THE MEAN.  
THERE IS FAIRLY GOOD MODEL AGREEMENT WITH HEAVY PRECIP TOTALS OF  
3-5" PRIMARILY OVER NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA, WITH ISOLATED TOTALS OF  
6-8" POSSIBLE. NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES MADE TO THE PREVIOUS SLIGHT  
RISK AREA.  
 
ORAVEC  
 
DAY 1 THREAT AREA: HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/94EPOINTS.TXT  
DAY 2 THREAT AREA: HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/98EPOINTS.TXT  
DAY 3 THREAT AREA: HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/99EPOINTS.TXT  
 
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