979  
FXUS02 KWBC 251845  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
145 PM EST MON NOV 25 2024  
 
VALID 12Z THU NOV 28 2024 - 12Z MON DEC 02 2024  
 
...UNSETTLED WEATHER FOR THANKSGIVING TO BE FOLLOWED BY FIRST  
SIGNIFICANT ARCTIC AIR BLAST AND LAKE EFFECT SNOW EVENT...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
FOR THANKSGIVING DAY INTO THE WEEKEND, THE LARGE SCALE WEATHER  
PATTERN WILL UNDERGO A CONSIDERABLE TRANSITION, WITH A NORTHERN AND  
SOUTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE ENERGY COMBINING INTO A BROAD, LARGE  
SCALE TROUGH OVER MUCH OF THE CENTRAL TO EASTERN UNITED STATES. THE  
LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TRACK AND SENSIBLE WEATHER ON THE LEADING EDGE  
OF THIS PATTERN CHANGE REMAINS UNCERTAIN THOUGH GUIDANCE HAS  
TRENDED CLOSER TOWARD A COMMON SCENARIO TODAY. A WET, UNSETTLED  
THANKSGIVING IS LIKELY FOR MANY ACROSS THE EAST WITH A THREAT OF  
WINTRY PRECIPITATION AND HEAVY SNOW FOR THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST.  
HOWEVER, IN THE WAKE OF THIS PASSING SYSTEM, THE WEATHER WILL TURN  
SHARPLY COLDER WITH AN INTRUSION OF ARCTIC AIR FROM THE NORTHERN  
ROCKIES AND NORTHERN PLAINS THROUGH THE EASTERN SEABOARD. THIS WILL  
USHER SOME OF THE COLDEST AIR OF THE SEASON SO FAR AND WILL BRING  
A FAVORABLE SETUP FOR SIGNIFICANT LAKE EFFECT SNOW DOWNWIND OF THE  
GREAT LAKES.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE GREATEST MODEL UNCERTAINLY AND IMPACTS TO SENSIBLE WEATHER LIE  
WITH THE BEGINNING OF THE FORECAST PERIOD - THANKSGIVING DAY - WITH  
THE LARGE SCALE PATTERN UNDERGOING A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. WHILE ALL  
OF THE AVAILABLE GUIDANCE DOES SHOW SHORTWAVE ENERGY WITHIN THE  
DEVELOPING TROUGH OVER THE CENTRAL AND EAST, THE POSITION/STRENGTH  
OF THE FEATURE REMAINS SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN. WHILE OVER THE PAST FEW  
DAYS THERE WERE LARGE TIMING AND SPATIAL DIFFERENCES, AT LEAST  
TODAY THE SPATIAL SPREAD HAS LESSENED AND SEEMS TO BE CONVERGING  
ON A COMMON SCENARIO. THE LATEST GFS HAS TRENDED CLOSER TO THE  
ECMWF/CMC SOLUTION, BRINGING THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM ACROSS THE  
OHIO VALLEY INTO THE MID-ATLANTIC (COMPARED TO A SOUTHERN SOLUTION  
ADVERTISED OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS). IT'S STILL ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE  
OF THE MODEL SPREAD, WHILE THE LATEST ECMWF REMAINS  
SHARPER/STRONGER WITH THE SHORTWAVE ENERGY AND THEREFORE WRAPS  
PRECIPITATION FURTHER NORTH/INTERIOR INTO THE NORTHEAST. SO WHILE  
THERE IS GREATER CONFIDENCE ON A WET/RAINY PERIOD FOR THE MID-  
ATLANTIC, THE NORTHERN EXTENT (AND POSSIBLE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS)  
REMAINS A BIT LESS UNCERTAIN BUT BEARS WATCHING FOR POTENTIALLY  
IMPACTFUL HOLIDAY WINTER WEATHER FOR SOME INTERIOR NORTHEAST  
LOCATIONS. IF THE ECMWF- LIKE SCENARIO WERE TO VERIFY, A WET/HEAVY  
SNOW WOULD OCCUR WITH SOME POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST TRIED TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN THE MOST  
SUPPRESSED AND THE FARTHEST NORTHERN SOLUTIONS WITH A BLEND OF THE  
DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE EARLY ON RESULTED IN A FAVORABLE SOLUTION  
AND TRENDED WELL WITH CONTINUITY.  
 
BEYOND THURSDAY, THE WEATHER PATTERN BECOMES A BIT MORE PREDICTABLE  
WITH THE BROAD TROUGHING ENCOMPASSING MUCH OF THE CENTRAL AND  
EASTERN UNITED STATES. A QUICK MOVING SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS LIKELY TO  
PASS THROUGH THE PLAINS, MIDWEST, AND OHIO VALLEY FRIDAY/SATURDAY,  
POTENTIALLY BRINGING A STREAK OF LIGHT PRECIPITATION. TEMPERATURE  
PROFILES WOULD SUPPORT MOSTLY LIGHT SNOW, SO A POSSIBLE AREA TO  
WATCH FOR IMPACTFUL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS INTO THE WEEKEND FOR SOME  
AREAS. THE VARIOUS MODELS DO DISAGREE ON THE TIMING/POSITION OF  
THIS FEATURE, WHICH APPEARS TO BE WITHIN THE NORMAL SPREAD FOR THIS  
FAR OUT ON A SUBTLE SHORTWAVE.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST WAS BASED ON A BLEND OF THE DETERMINISTIC MODELS  
FOR DAYS 3-5 FOLLOWED BY A 50 PERCENT BLEND OF THE ECENS AND GEFS  
MEANS. OVERALL, THE NBM QPF LOOKED REASONABLE FOR THURSDAY THEN  
WITH THE SIGNIFICANT LAKE EFFECT SNOW POTENTIAL, QPF WAS NUDGED  
HIGHER IN THE FAVORED LOCATIONS USING SOME OF THE DETERMINISTIC  
GUIDANCE.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
 
FOR THANKSGIVING DAY, THE EAST COAST WEATHER SYSTEM WILL BRING  
WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION FROM THE SOUTHEAST INTO THE NORTHEAST.  
SOME OF THE RAIN COULD BE MODERATE IN INTENSITY AROUND THE  
CAROLINAS BUT LIKELY FALLS SHORT OF INTRODUCING AN EXCESSIVE  
RAINFALL OUTLOOK AT THIS TIME. FOR THE MID-ATLANTIC AND THE  
NORTHEAST, A MOSTLY COLD RAIN IS EXPECTED THROUGH FOR FAR INTERIOR  
LOCATIONS, A MIX OF RAIN/SNOW IS LIKELY, WITH THE GREATEST  
POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY/WET SNOW FOR THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE  
ADIRONDACKS, GREENS, WHITES, AND INTERIOR MAINE. THERE REMAINS SOME  
UNCERTAINTY ON THE STRENGTH AND INTENSITY OF LOW PRESSURE AND SOME  
OF THIS WINTER PRECIPITATION COULD BE HEAVY FOR THE INTERIOR  
NORTHEAST LOCATIONS, BRINGING SOME LOCATIONS A WHITE THANKSGIVING.  
THE DAY 4 WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK IS CURRENTLY ADVERTISING MODERATE  
CHANCES (50 TO 70 PERCENT) FOR IMPACTFUL SNOW (LIQUID EQUIVALENT  
OF AT LEAST 0.25") AND THIS SYSTEM BEARS WATCHING FOR POTENTIALLY  
SIGNIFICANT/IMPACTFUL HOLIDAY WINTER WEATHER.  
 
IN THE WAKE OF THIS SYSTEM, A VERY PRONOUNCED UPPER LEVEL TROUGH  
WILL SETTLE OVER THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN UNITED STATES. A  
SIGNIFICANT ARCTIC AIR INTRUSION WILL BRING SOME OF THE COLDEST AIR  
OF THE SEASON SO FAR TO PLACES FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND  
NORTHERN ROCKIES EASTWARD. THE COLD AIR WILL ARRIVE FIRST ON  
THANKSGIVING DAY AND FRIDAY AND SPREAD EASTWARD THROUGH THE  
WEEKEND. THE COMBINATION OF THE VERY COLD TEMPERATURES AND WINDY  
CONDITIONS WILL BRING DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILLS TO PARTS OF THE  
NORTHERN PLAINS AND UPPER MIDWEST. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN THE  
SINGLE DIGITS TO TEENS AND OVERNIGHT LOWS WELL BELOW ZERO. WIND  
CHILL READINGS ACROSS MUCH OF NORTH DAKOTA WILL BE BELOW NEGATIVE  
20F. THIS WILL POSE AN INCREASED RISK OF HYPOTHERMIA AND FROSTBITE  
ON EXPOSED SKIN.  
 
HEAVY LAKE-EFFECT SNOW IS EXPECTED FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY,  
DEVELOPING EAST/SOUTHEAST OF THE LAKES AND RESULTING IN SIGNIFICANT  
ACCUMULATIONS FOR SOME OF THE FAVORED LAKE EFFECT LOCATIONS. TRAVEL  
DISRUPTIONS ARE LIKELY ESPECIALLY ON I-90 BETWEEN CLEVELAND AND  
BUFFALO AND I-81 NORTH OF SYRACUSE. WHILE FORECAST ACCUMULATIONS  
WILL BECOME CLEARER OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, THE LATEST WINTER  
WEATHER OUTLOOK IS HIGH (ABOVE 70 PERCENT) IN THE FAVORED SPOTS,  
ESPECIALLY DOWNWIND OF LAKE ERIE AND LAKE ONTARIO.  
 
ELSEWHERE, A QUIETER PERIOD IS LIKELY FOR THE WEST PRECIPITATION-  
WISE. PARTS OF CALIFORNIA MAY SEE LIGHT TO LOCALLY MODEST  
PRECIPITATION AT TIMES LATER THIS WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND WITH SOME  
ENERGY ALOFT, WITH SOME LIGHT AMOUNTS PERHAPS SPILLING INTO THE  
SOUTHWEST. THE SAME GOES FOR THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST INTO THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES. MODELS ARE STARTING TO SHOW A GENERAL SIGNAL FOR  
A ROUND OF LIGHT TO MODERATE SNOW ACROSS PARTS OF THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS ON FRIDAY INTO THE MID-MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS  
SATURDAY. OVER THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK, RETURN FLOW OF  
MOISTURE COULD START TO COME INTO THE WESTERN GULF COAST REGION FOR  
SOME SHOWER ACTIVITY.  
 
TATE/TAYLOR  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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