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FXUS02 KWBC 101859  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
159 PM EST TUE DEC 10 2024  
 
VALID 12Z FRI DEC 13 2024 - 12Z TUE DEC 17 2024  
 
...CONTINUING TO MONITOR A POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT STORM SYSTEM TO  
AFFECT THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST BY THIS WEEKEND...  
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
MULTI-DAY MEANS CONTINUE TO DEPICT NEARLY ZONAL FLOW ACROSS THE  
LOWER 48 FROM LATE THIS WEEK INTO THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT WEEK,  
CONTAINING A SEQUENCE OF SHORTWAVES WITH VARYING AMPLITUDE AND  
TENDING TO BE SPACED A COUPLE DAYS OR SO APART. EACH ASSOCIATED  
SURFACE SYSTEM SHOULD PRODUCE EPISODES OF RAIN AND HIGHER ELEVATION  
SNOW OVER PORTIONS OF THE WEST AND THEN DEVELOPMENT OF  
PRECIPITATION OVER THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND EXPANDING ACROSS THE  
EAST-CENTRAL U.S. THEN CONTINUING INTO PORTIONS OF THE EAST.  
NORTHERN AREAS MAY SEE SOME WINTRY WEATHER. WHILE GUIDANCE DEPICTS  
THE GENERAL PATTERN WELL, PARTICULAR MODELS/ENSEMBLES HAVE BEEN  
VERY STUBBORN WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE CLUSTERS THAT SHOW  
SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES FOR SYSTEM DETAILS/TIMING. THIS IS  
ESPECIALLY THE CASE FOR THE SYSTEM FORECAST TO BE APPROACHING THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST THIS WEEKEND. EXPECT TEMPERATURES TO BE NEAR OR  
ABOVE NORMAL ACROSS MOST OF THE COUNTRY DURING THE PERIOD ASIDE  
FROM A CHILLY FRIDAY OVER NORTHERN/EASTERN AREAS.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
EVEN EARLY IN THE FORECAST PERIOD, MODEL GUIDANCE FROM THE 00Z/06Z  
CYCLE DIFFERED QUITE A BIT WITH THE EVOLUTION/TIMING OF THE FAIRLY  
STRONG SYSTEM NEARING THE NORTHWEST BY SATURDAY AND TROUGH  
PROGRESSING EASTWARD THEREAFTER. THERE HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT SIGNAL  
FOR ECMWF/ECENS AND CMC/CMCENS RUNS TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY  
SLOWER/FARTHER WEST COMPARED TO THE GFS/GEFS/UKMET. BUT, EC-BASED  
ML MODELS HAVE UNIFORMLY BEEN ON THE FASTER SIDE OF THE SPREAD,  
UNLIKE THE REST OF THE EC SUITE. THIS CREATED LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE  
EC/CMC-TYPE SLOWER SOLUTIONS, AND THE MOST RECENT WPC FORECAST  
CONTINUED TO FAVOR THE FASTER GUIDANCE CLUSTER. FORTUNATELY, THE  
INCOMING 12Z ECMWF AND CMC HAVE SWITCHED TO FASTER TRACKING OF THE  
FEATURES TOWARD THE COAST AND INLAND. THUS THE 12Z SUITE IS  
YIELDING HIGHER CONFIDENCE IN THIS FASTER PROGRESSION OF THE  
UPPER/SURFACE LOWS INTO THE NORTHWEST, THOUGH THE 12Z EC/CMC ARE  
STILL SLOWER BY EARLY NEXT WEEK AS THE TROUGH PROGRESSES INTO THE  
CENTRAL U.S.  
 
ELSEWHERE, ANOTHER FEATURE TO CONSIDER IS SHORTWAVE TROUGHING  
TRAVERSING FROM AROUND THE CENTRAL ROCKIES FRIDAY INTO THE MIDWEST  
OVER THE WEEKEND ALONG WITH A GRADUALLY WEAKENING SURFACE LOW. THE  
MAIN MODEL OUTLIER WITH THIS WAS THE SLOWER 00Z UKMET, AND  
OTHERWISE A MULTI-MODEL BLEND SEEMED REASONABLE DESPITE SOME  
DIFFERENCES. THE NEXT SHORTWAVE OR CLOSED LOW APPROACHING THE WEST  
FROM THE EASTERN PACIFIC INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK HAS REASONABLE MODEL  
SPREAD WITH ITS TIMING.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST FAVORED THE 00Z/06Z GFS, 00Z UKMET, AND GEFS MEAN  
EARLY IN THE PERIOD GIVEN THE AFOREMENTIONED EC/CMC DISCREPANCIES.  
GRADUALLY INCREASED THE PROPORTION OF THE GEFS MEAN AND A BIT OF  
EC MEAN AS THE PERIOD PROGRESSED. HOPEFULLY FUTURE FORECASTS CAN  
INCORPORATE MORE EC/CMC GUIDANCE SINCE THEIR 12Z MODELS ARE SHOWING  
SOMEWHAT BETTER ALIGNMENT.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
 
THE STORM LIKELY NEARING THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST FRIDAY-SATURDAY  
WILL BRING THE POTENTIAL FOR AREAS OF SIGNIFICANT RAIN AND HIGHER  
ELEVATION SNOW TO LOCATIONS ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN WEST  
COAST. BRISK TO STRONG WINDS MAY BE POSSIBLE AT LEAST OFFSHORE.  
WHILE THERE ARE STILL SOME MODEL DIFFERENCES, RECENT GUIDANCE IS  
SUGGESTING A RELATIVELY FASTER MOVEMENT OF THE ASSOCIATED  
ATMOSPHERIC RIVER FOR LESS EXTREME RAINFALL AMOUNTS THAN SOME OLDER  
MODELS SUGGESTED. THERE IS STILL CERTAINLY ENOUGH QPF THROUGH  
FRIDAY-SATURDAY TO MAINTAIN MARGINAL RISKS FOR FAR SOUTHWEST OREGON  
INTO NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, WITH JUST MINOR TWEAKS TO CONTINUITY.  
SOME MOISTURE SHOULD CONTINUE ACROSS THE WEST INTO THE WEEKEND AND  
HEAVY SNOW IS POSSIBLE IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE CASCADES,  
SIERRA NEVADA, AND NORTHERN ROCKIES.  
 
A SHORTWAVE REACHING THE ROCKIES/PLAINS BY FRIDAY WILL CONTINUE  
EASTWARD WITH TIME, WITH SOME DETAILS OF ITS ENERGY BECOMING  
INCREASINGLY UNCERTAIN TOWARD THE EAST COAST BY SUNDAY-MONDAY. THIS  
FEATURE AND ASSOCIATED SURFACE WAVE/FRONTAL SYSTEM MAY SPREAD  
PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S. BY FRIDAY-SATURDAY AND  
THEN ACROSS THE EAST COAST. GENERALLY EXPECT LIGHT TO MODERATE  
AMOUNTS WITH THIS SYSTEM. LOCALLY HEAVIER TOTALS CANNOT BE RULED  
OUT, BUT OVERALL GUIDANCE SIGNALS ARE TOO WEAK TO SUGGEST ANY RISK  
AREAS IN THE DAYS 4-5 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOKS. DETAILS WILL  
DEPEND ON FINER SCALE SHORTWAVE DETAILS THAT HAVE LOW  
PREDICTABILITY SEVERAL DAYS OUT IN TIME. THE NORTHERN PART OF THE  
PRECIPITATION SHIELD MAY CONTAIN SOME WINTRY WEATHER AT TIMES IN  
THE MID/UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY LATE WEEK INTO THE NORTHEAST OVER  
THE WEEKEND, THOUGH PROBABILITIES FOR 0.25 INCH LIQUID IN THE FORM  
OF SNOW ARE CURRENTLY NO HIGHER THAN 10-30 PERCENT.  
 
ANOTHER ROUND OF PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE  
EAST-CENTRAL U.S. EARLY NEXT WEEK AS THE INITIALLY WESTERN SYSTEM  
PUSHES EASTWARD AND PULLS IN MOISTURE. THIS CURRENTLY LOOKS TO BE A  
WARMER SYSTEM FOR MOSTLY RAIN, THOUGH WINTRY WEATHER MAY BE  
POSSIBLE IN THE FAR NORTHERN TIER. EXPECT ANOTHER PACIFIC SYSTEM TO  
PRODUCE ADDITIONAL RAIN AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW ACROSS THE WEST  
DURING THE FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK AS WELL.  
 
FRIDAY WILL BE ON THE CHILLY SIDE ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER AND THE  
EAST, WITH LOCATIONS OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST NEAR THE CANADIAN  
BORDER LIKELY SEEING THE COLDEST ANOMALIES OF 10-20F OR SO BELOW  
NORMAL. ASIDE FROM LINGERING MODEST COOL ANOMALIES OVER THE  
INTERIOR SOUTHEAST ON SATURDAY, THE REST OF THE LOWER 48 SHOULD SEE  
NEAR TO ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES FROM SATURDAY ONWARD. WARMEST  
ANOMALIES FOR HIGHS SHOULD BE IN THE PLUS 10-15F RANGE OVER PARTS  
OF THE PLAINS ON SUNDAY-MONDAY. EXPECT BROADER COVERAGE OF SOME  
AREAS OF PLUS 10-15F ANOMALIES FOR MORNING LOWS.  
 
TATE/RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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