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FXUS02 KWBC 270700  
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
200 AM EST FRI DEC 27 2024  
 
VALID 12Z MON DEC 30 2024 - 12Z FRI JAN 03 2025  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
 
PROGRESSIVE FLOW WITH MULTIPLE SHORTWAVES ROTATING AROUND THE  
SOUTHERN SIDE OF A SOUTH-CENTRAL CANADA UPPER LOW WILL BE IN PLACE  
EARLY NEXT WEEK, PRODUCING MANY LOW PRESSURE/FRONTAL SYSTEMS ACROSS  
THE LOWER 48. ONE SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO EXIT THE NORTHEAST BY  
TUESDAY AFTER PRODUCING SOME PRECIPITATION THERE. ANOTHER LOW  
PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL BE DEEPENING OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS MONDAY,  
WITH WINDY CONDITIONS BEHIND IT AND CAUSING PRECIPITATION IN THE  
VICINITY OF THE LOW TRACK, INCLUDING POSSIBLE SNOW IN THE NORTH-  
CENTRAL PLAINS. THIS LOW SHOULD PUSH INTO THE EAST-CENTRAL AND  
EASTERN U.S. TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF PRECIPITATION  
THAT SHOULD OVERALL BE LIGHTER THAN THIS WEEKEND'S PRECIPITATION.  
EXPECT A TREND TOWARD A LARGER SCALE WESTERN RIDGE/EASTERN TROUGH  
PATTERN BY MID-LATE WEEK. WARMER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES FOR MOST  
OF THE LOWER 48 EARLY NEXT WEEK WILL MODERATE CLOSER TO NORMAL, IF  
NOT SLIGHTLY BELOW IN SOME SPOTS, FROM WEST TO EAST DURING THE  
PERIOD.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW SOME DETAIL DIFFERENCES THAT IMPACT  
SENSIBLE WEATHER DESPITE GENERALLY AGREEABLE PATTERN EVOLUTION FROM  
A SHORTWAVE-DOMINANT PATTERN EARLY NEXT WEEK TO A MORE AMPLIFIED  
PATTERN WITH A WESTERN RIDGE AND EASTERN TROUGH LATER NEXT WEEK.  
LOW PRESSURE AND UPPER TROUGH DIFFERENCES LINGER IN THE NORTHEAST  
ON MONDAY, IMPACTING TIMING OF PRECIPITATION. GFS RUNS REMAIN ON  
THE FASTER SIDE OF ENDING PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE REGION.  
MEANWHILE A SHORTWAVE PRODUCING PLAINS LOW PRESSURE STARTS OFF IN  
GOOD AGREEMENT MONDAY, WITH MODELS EVEN CONVERGING BETTER ON THE  
LOW POSITION INTO THE OHIO VALLEY EARLY TUESDAY. AS THE FEATURES  
MOVE EAST MIDWEEK, SPREAD INCREASES SOMEWHAT. GFS RUNS CONTINUE TO  
BE FASTER THAN THE CONSENSUS OF ECMWF/ML RUNS AT PIVOTING THE  
SHORTWAVE AND LOW NORTHEASTWARD, WHILE THE CMC IS EVEN SLOWER THAN  
THE EC. ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WITH LOW PLACEMENT IS THE POTENTIAL  
FOR COASTAL LOW DEVELOPMENT IN ADDITION TO THE INLAND LOW. WHILE  
THE 12Z CYCLE OF THE ECMWF AND ML RUNS WERE PRETTY CONSISTENT IN  
PRODUCING A LOW NEAR LONG ISLAND, THE NEWER 00Z ECMWF FAVORS ONE  
INLAND LOW RATHER THAN THE COASTAL LOW DEVELOPING, SO THIS REMAINS  
UNCERTAIN. AT LEAST BY THURSDAY MODELS ARE REASONABLY AGREEABLE IN  
A LOW POSITION JUST EAST OF MAINE. THE 12Z ECMWF DID BUMP THE  
SURFACE LOW BACK WEST INTO CANADA AFTER THAT (BY NEXT FRIDAY),  
WHICH DID NOT HAVE MUCH SUPPORT.  
 
GFS RUNS/GEFS ENSEMBLES CONTINUE TO BE MORE PRONOUNCED THAN OTHER  
GUIDANCE WITH SHORTWAVE ENERGY THAT REACHES THE WEST BY AROUND  
TUESDAY. SINCE ML MODELS STRONGLY SUPPORT THE NON- GFS/GEFS  
GUIDANCE, CONTINUE NOT TO FAVOR THE GFS/GEFS AND ITS PATTERN OF  
BRINGING SOUTHERN TIER PRECIPITATION INTO THE CENTRAL/EASTERN  
STATES BY MID TO LATE WEEK.  
 
MODELS ARE AGREEABLE THAT THE PATTERN WILL AMPLIFY OVERALL AS THE  
WEEK PROGRESSES, WITH AN UPPER RIDGE OVER THE WEST TO ROCKIES AND  
TROUGHING ATOP THE EASTERN HALF OF THE LOWER 48. THERE IS SOME  
MODEL SPREAD AND RUN-TO-RUN DIFFERENCES WITH THE TIMING OF EASTERN  
PACIFIC TROUGHING APPROACHING THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST BY FRIDAY,  
WHICH WILL HAVE TO BE RESOLVED IN FUTURE FORECAST CYCLES.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST CONTINUED TO FAVOR THE ECMWF IN THE FORECAST,  
WITH LESSER PROPORTIONS OF OTHER GUIDANCE. GRADUALLY INCORPORATED  
MORE ENSEMBLE MEANS (ESPECIALLY THE ECENS) DURING THE LATTER PART  
OF THE PERIOD, REACHING HALF BY DAY 7 AS THE CONTROL RUN OF THE  
ECMWF DIVERGED WESTWARD WITH THE EASTERN LOW. FOR QPF, REDUCED MOST  
GFS/GEFS INFLUENCE IN THE SOUTH-CENTRAL TO SOUTHEASTERN U.S.  
(KEEPING THE REGION DRIER), AND ENHANCED LAKE EFFECT PRECIPITATION  
COMPARED TO THE NBM.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL MOVE ACROSS SOUTH-CENTRAL CANADA INTO  
MONDAY WITH ITS FRONTS PROVIDING A FOCUS FOR PRECIPITATION OVER THE  
NORTHEAST. THERE REMAINS ABOVE AVERAGE MODEL SPREAD WITH THE EXACT  
EVOLUTION OF THE SETUP AND ASSOCIATED PRECIPITATION PLACEMENT,  
AMOUNTS, AND TYPE. GENERALLY IT SEEMS THAT A WARMING ATMOSPHERE BY  
MONDAY WILL ALLOW FOR THIS TO BE MOSTLY RAIN AFTER SOME FREEZING  
RAIN SUNDAY/SUNDAY NIGHT, PERHAPS EVEN IN HIGHER ELEVATIONS LIKE  
THE WHITE MOUNTAINS. RAIN ON COLD HARD GROUND OR SNOW COVERED AREAS  
MAY LEAD TO A NONZERO CHANCE OF FLASH FLOODING, BUT GIVEN THE  
UNCERTAINTIES EVEN IN THE PATTERN ITSELF, HELD OFF ON ANY ERO RISK  
FOR DAY 4/MONDAY.  
 
A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL DEVELOP IN THE PLAINS BY MONDAY WITH A  
SHORTWAVE EJECTING FROM THE WEST. STRONG AND GUSTY WINDS ARE LIKELY  
BEHIND THIS LOW ACROSS PARTS OF THE ROCKIES AND HIGH PLAINS.  
MEANWHILE NORTH OF THE LOW TRACK, SNOW IS POSSIBLE ACROSS THE  
NORTH-CENTRAL PLAINS MONDAY WITH PROBABILITIES FOR AT LEAST 0.25  
INCH LIQUID IN THE FORM OF SNOW MAXIMIZING AT 30-50 PERCENT OVER  
SOUTHERN SOUTH DAKOTA AND INTO NORTHERN NEBRASKA. A BROADER AREA OF  
PRECIPITATION WILL SPREAD A...GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT...  
 
MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW SOME DETAIL DIFFERENCES THAT IMPACT SENSIBLE WEATHER DESPITE GENERALLY AGREEABLE PATTERN EVOLUTION FROM A SHORTWAVE-DOMINANT PATTERN EARLY NEXT WEEK TO A MORE AMPLIFIED PATTERN WITH A WESTERN RIDGE AND EASTERN TROUGH LATER NEXT WEEK. LOW PRESSURE AND UPPER TROUGH DIFFERENCES LINGER IN THE NORTHEAST ON MONDAY, IMPACTING TIMING OF PRECIPITATION. GFS RUNS REMAIN ON THE FASTER SIDE OF ENDING PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE REGION. MEANWHILE A SHORTWAVE PRODUCING PLAINS LOW PRESSURE STARTS OFF IN GOOD AGREEMENT MONDAY, WITH MODELS EVEN CONVERGING BETTER ON THE LOW POSITION INTO THE OHIO VALLEY EARLY TUESDAY. AS THE FEATURES MOVE EAST MIDWEEK, SPREAD INCREASES SOMEWHAT. GFS RUNS CONTINUE TO BE FASTER THAN THE CONSENSUS OF ECMWF/ML RUNS AT PIVOTING THE SHORTWAVE AND LOW NORTHEASTWARD, WHILE THE CMC IS EVEN SLOWER THAN THE EC. ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WITH LOW PLACEMENT IS THE POTENTIAL FOR COASTAL LOW DEVELOPMENT IN ADDITION TO THE INLAND LOW. WHILE THE 12Z CYCLE OF THE ECMWF AND ML RUNS WERE PRETTY CONSISTENT IN PRODUCING A LOW NEAR LONG ISLAND, THE NEWER 00Z ECMWF FAVORS ONE INLAND LOW RATHER THAN THE COASTAL LOW DEVELOPING, SO THIS REMAINS UNCERTAIN. AT LEAST BY THURSDAY MODELS ARE REASONABLY AGREEABLE IN A LOW POSITION JUST EAST OF MAINE. THE 12Z ECMWF DID BUMP THE SURFACE LOW BACK WEST INTO CANADA AFTER THAT (BY NEXT FRIDAY), WHICH DID NOT HAVE MUCH SUPPORT.  
 
GFS RUNS/GEFS ENSEMBLES CONTINUE TO BE MORE PRONOUNCED THAN OTHER  
GUIDANCE WITH SHORTWAVE ENERGY THAT REACHES THE WEST BY AROUND  
TUESDAY. SINCE ML MODELS STRONGLY SUPPORT THE NON-  
GFS/GEFS GUIDANCE, CONTINUE NOT TO FAVOR THE GFS/GEFS AND ITS PATTERN OF BRINGING SOUTHERN TIER PRECIPITATION INTO THE CENTRAL/EASTERN STATES BY MID TO LATE WEEK.  
 
MODELS ARE AGREEABLE THAT THE PATTERN WILL AMPLIFY OVERALL AS THE WEEK PROGRESSES, WITH AN UPPER RIDGE OVER THE WEST TO ROCKIES AND TROUGHING ATOP THE EASTERN HALF OF THE LOWER 48. THERE IS SOME MODEL SPREAD AND RUN-TO-RUN DIFFERENCES WITH THE TIMING OF EASTERN PACIFIC TROUGHING APPROACHING THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST BY FRIDAY, WHICH WILL HAVE TO BE RESOLVED IN FUTURE FORECAST CYCLES.  
 
THE WPC FORECAST CONTINUED TO FAVOR THE ECMWF IN THE FORECAST, WITH  
LESSER PROPORTIONS OF OTHER GUIDANCE. GRADUALLY INCORPORATED MORE  
ENSEMBLE MEANS (ESPECIALLY THE ECENS) DURING THE LATTER PART OF THE  
PERIOD, REACHING HALF BY DAY 7 AS THE CONTROL RUN OF THE ECMWF  
DIVERGED WESTWARD WITH THE EASTERN LOW. FOR QPF, REDUCED MOST  
GFS/GEFS INFLUENCE IN THE SOUTH-CENTRAL TO SOUTHEASTERN U.S.  
(KEEPING THE REGION DRIER), AND ENHANCED LAKE EFFECT PRECIPITATION  
COMPARED TO THE NBM.  
 
CROSS THE EAST TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY, WITH SOME MODEST AMOUNTS BUT  
OVERALL LIGHTER THAN THE PRECIPITATION THIS WEEKEND. NO AREAS ARE  
CURRENTLY DELINEATED IN THE DAY 5/TUESDAY ERO SINCE RAIN SHOULD  
MOSTLY BE UNDER EXCESSIVE THRESHOLDS, BUT WILL KEEP AN EYE ON IT IN  
FUTURE FORECASTS IF AMOUNTS TREND UPWARD. WINTRY WEATHER SHOULD BE  
CONFINED FAIRLY FAR NORTHWARD AS WITH THE PRIOR SYSTEM, WITH SNOW  
POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF THE GREAT LAKES REGION TUESDAY AND INTO  
THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST MIDWEEK. HIGHEST PROBABILITIES FOR SNOW WILL  
BE IN HIGHER ELEVATION AREAS LIKE THE ADIRONDACKS AND THE GREEN  
AND WHITE MOUNTAINS. COLD CYCLONIC FLOW BEHIND THE STORM SYSTEM  
WILL LIKELY PRODUCE A PERIOD OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW INTO THURSDAY AND  
FRIDAY.  
 
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST TO NORTHERN ROCKIES CAN EXPECT LINGERING  
MODERATE PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS ON MONDAY WITH LOWER ELEVATION RAIN  
AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW. PRECIPITATION CHANCES WILL TREND DOWN  
TUESDAY, BUT BY TUESDAY NIGHT MOIST INFLOW MAY GET RENEWED IN THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND RAIN/SNOW CHANCES COULD INCREASE THERE ONCE  
AGAIN. PRECIPITATION IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE FOR THE LATTER HALF OF  
THE WEEK IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND AT TIMES FARTHER EAST INTO  
THE NORTHERN ROCKIES. OVERALL AMOUNTS ARE LIKELY TO BE LOWER THAN  
THE WEEKEND SYSTEM. WHAT AREAS OF ENHANCED ACTIVITY THAT DO OCCUR  
ARE MOST LIKELY TO BE OVER WESTERN WASHINGTON.  
 
MUCH OF THE COUNTRY ASIDE FROM THE NORTHWESTERN QUADRANT WILL BE  
WELL ABOVE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE-WISE INTO MONDAY. THE MOST ANOMALOUS  
TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST IN THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, WITH HIGHS IN  
THE 70S AND 80S ACROSS TEXAS THAT COULD BREAK DAILY RECORD HIGHS  
ESPECIALLY IN SOUTHERN PARTS OF THE STATE. THE SECOND MOST  
ANOMALOUS TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE OVER THE NORTHEAST, WITH LOWS  
20-30 DEGREES ABOVE AVERAGE AND HIGHS 15-20F ABOVE AVERAGE ON  
MONDAY. AS MULTIPLE COLD FRONTS TRACK ACROSS THE NATION, MORE  
SEASONABLE COOL AIR SHOULD GRADUALLY TAKE OVER AS THE WEEK  
PROGRESSES. EXPECT THE NORTHWESTERN TO CENTRAL U.S. TO SEE NEAR  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES MONDAY-TUESDAY, AND COOLER TEMPERATURES WILL  
SPREAD ACROSS THE EASTERN U.S. WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. BY LATER WEEK,  
THE AMPLIFYING UPPER LEVEL PATTERN WITH RIDGING OVER THE WEST WILL  
PROMOTE TEMPERATURES OF 5-10F ABOVE NORMAL ESPECIALLY OVER THE  
SOUTHWEST, WHILE CONVERSELY UPPER TROUGHING ALOFT WILL SPREAD  
COOLER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE NORTH-CENTRAL TO EAST-  
CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S. THURSDAY AND FRIDAY.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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