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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
159 PM EST SAT DEC 28 2024  
 
VALID 12Z TUE DEC 31 2024 - 12Z SAT JAN 04 2025  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
 
MEAN UPPER TROUGHING IS LIKELY TO FORM ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND  
EASTERN U.S. TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY AND LAST THROUGH AT LEAST THE REST  
OF THE WEEK, WITH SOME EMBEDDED SHORTWAVES PRODUCING LOW  
PRESSURE/FRONTAL SYSTEMS. GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW A PRIMARY  
SURFACE LOW TRACKING THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY TUESDAY AND ACROSS  
THE NORTHEAST WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY ACCOMPANIED BY PRECIPITATION OF  
VARYING INTENSITY DEPENDING ON LOCATION. COLD CYCLONIC FLOW IN THE  
SYSTEM'S WAKE SHOULD SUPPORT MULTIPLE DAYS OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
THROUGH THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK. UPSTREAM, AN UPPER RIDGE WILL  
BUILD OVER THE WEST COAST AND THEN THE INTERIOR WEST BY THURSDAY-  
FRIDAY, LEADING TO TEMPERATURES WARMING ABOVE NORMAL THERE WHILE  
THE EAST COOLS UNDER THE TROUGH. EASTERN PACIFIC ENERGY/TROUGHING  
THAT MAY MOVE INLAND BY FRIDAY OR SATURDAY WILL LEAD TO INCREASING  
PRECIPITATION CHANCES ACROSS THE NORTHWEST FOR THE LATTER HALF OF  
THE WEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
DYNAMICAL AND MACHINE LEARNING (ML) MODELS CONTINUE TO AGREE UPON  
THE LARGE SCALE PATTERN TRANSITIONING TO AN AMPLIFIED WESTERN  
RIDGE/EASTERN TROUGH REGIME, WITH LEADING INTENSIFYING LOW  
PRESSURE TRACKING FROM THE OHIO VALLEY ON TUESDAY TO NORTHEAST OR  
NORTH OF NEW ENGLAND LATER IN THE WEEK, AND A PACIFIC UPPER TROUGH  
PUSHING INTO THE WEST BY NEXT SATURDAY. WITHIN THIS CONSENSUS  
EVOLUTION, FINER SCALE QUESTION MARKS PERSIST FOR LOW PRESSURE  
AFFECTING THE NORTHEAST AROUND MIDWEEK AND FEATURES BRINGING  
MOISTURE TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. MORE NOTABLE  
DIFFERENCES EXIST WITH THE EASTERN PACIFIC INTO WESTERN U.S. UPPER  
TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED SURFACE PATTERN FRIDAY-SATURDAY.  
 
GUIDANCE HAS CONVERGED WELL FOR THE SURFACE LOW FORECAST TO TRACK  
OVER THE OHIO VALLEY ON TUESDAY. THEN SPECIFICS CONTINUE TO BE A  
BIT AMBIGUOUS AROUND TUESDAY NIGHT AND EARLY WEDNESDAY WITH  
RESPECT TO THE RELATIVE EMPHASIS OF NEW YORK/LAKE ONTARIO VERSUS  
COASTAL LOW PRESSURE CENTERS BEFORE GUIDANCE CLUSTERING IMPROVES  
TOWARD A COASTAL NEW ENGLAND TRACK LATE WEDNESDAY AND CONTINUED  
PROGRESS TO JUST EAST/NORTHEAST OF MAINE BY THURSDAY AND FARTHER  
NORTH/NORTHEAST THEREAFTER. DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE CURRENTLY TILTS A  
LITTLE MORE TOWARD A COASTAL LOW AS OF 12Z WEDNESDAY WHILE THE ML  
MODELS ARE STILL MIXED. TIMING AND STRENGTH DIFFERENCES AFTER THAT  
TIME ARE GENERALLY TYPICAL FOR THE TIME FRAME INVOLVED, THOUGH  
CONSENSUS SUGGESTED THAT THE 00Z CMC WAS A LITTLE TOO SLOW  
(ADJUSTING FAVORABLY IN THE NEW 12Z RUN) AND THE 06Z/12Z GFS  
POSSIBLY A LITTLE TOO WEAK.  
 
BEHIND THIS SYSTEM, OVER THE PAST DAY OR SO GUIDANCE HAS BEEN  
GRADUALLY IMPROVING ITS SIGNAL FOR A WEAK WAVE PROGRESSING FROM THE  
PLAINS THROUGH OR NEAR THE TENNESSEE VALLEY AND INTO THE WESTERN  
ATLANTIC THURSDAY INTO SATURDAY. MOST DYNAMICAL SUPPORT FOR THIS  
FEATURE COMES FROM SHEARING PACIFIC ENERGY WHICH LOOKS TO HAVE LOW  
PREDICTABILITY BY 5-7 DAYS OUT IN TIME, SO CHANGES IN SPECIFICS ARE  
CERTAINLY POSSIBLE IN FUTURE RUNS.  
 
OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC/WESTERN U.S., DYNAMICAL AND ML GUIDANCE  
CONTINUES TO VARY FOR SURFACE DETAILS NEAR THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST  
COAST AROUND MIDWEEK OR SO, AS UPPER DYNAMICS SHEAR OUT AND RISING  
HEIGHTS ALOFT EVENTUALLY SUPPORT NORTHEASTWARD PROGRESS OF A MEAN  
WARM FRONT. THERE IS NO CLEAR CLUSTERING FOR THIS PART OF THE  
FORECAST. BY FRIDAY, THE 00Z ECMWF BECOMES A SOUTHERN EXTREME FOR  
THE BETTER DEFINED UPPER TROUGH AND CORRESPONDING EAST PACIFIC  
SURFACE LOW, WITH THE BEST CLUSTER OF ML MODELS FAVORING A SURFACE  
LOW TRACK NEAR 50N AS OF 12Z FRIDAY PER THE 00Z ECENS MEAN. THEN  
GUIDANCE DIVERGES CONSIDERABLY FOR AMPLITUDE OF THE UPPER TROUGH  
MOVING INTO THE WEST. LATEST ECMWF RUNS ARE ON THE AMPLIFIED SIDE  
OF THE SPREAD (LEADING TO GREATER SOUTHWARD EXTENT OF  
PRECIPITATION) WHILE IN CONTRAST THE CMC RUNS ACTUALLY MAINTAIN  
RIDGING OVER THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE WEST. ML MODELS VARY AS WELL  
BUT DO NOT SHOW ANY SUPPORT FOR THE CMC. PREFER TO LEAN AWAY FROM  
THE ECMWF AS WELL (ESPECIALLY THE 00Z RUN WHICH ALSO STRAYED SLOW  
ALOFT AND FOR THE SURFACE LOW), GIVEN THAT PASSAGE OF THE TROUGH  
THROUGH A LONGER TERM MEAN RIDGE DOES NOT SEEM TO SUPPORT THE  
STRONG SIDE OF THE SPREAD.  
 
A BLEND CONSISTING OF THE 00Z ECMWF AND 00Z/06Z GFS WITH LESSER  
WEIGHT OF THE 00Z UKMET/CMC REPRESENTED CONSENSUS OR PREFERRED  
INTERMEDIATE SOLUTION, DEPENDING ON THE FEATURE, DURING THE FIRST  
HALF OF THE PERIOD. THEN THE FORECAST RAPIDLY TRANSITIONED TOWARD  
MORE ENSEMBLE MEAN INPUT (REACHING 60 PERCENT FOR SATURDAY, SPLIT  
BETWEEN THE 06Z GEFS/00Z ECENS) WHILE SWITCHING ECMWF INPUT TOWARD  
THE 12Z/27 RUN AND PHASING OUT THE 00Z CMC. THIS APPROACH YIELDED  
GOOD CONTINUITY WITH MOST ASPECTS OF THE FORECAST.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TRACKING FROM THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE  
NORTHEAST WILL SPREAD PRECIPITATION ACROSS THOSE REGIONS TUESDAY-  
WEDNESDAY. PRECIPITATION SHOULD FALL AS RAIN FOR MOST OF THE OHIO  
VALLEY TO THE COASTAL AREAS/LOWER ELEVATIONS OF THE NORTHEAST. THE  
RAIN RATES AND RAIN AMOUNTS LOOK TO STAY MAINLY UNDER EXCESSIVE  
THRESHOLDS. SOME MODERATE TO LOCALLY HEAVY PRECIPITATION MAY FALL  
IN THE URBAN CORRIDOR (MOST LIKELY PHILADELPHIA TO NEW YORK CITY)  
LATER TUESDAY TO TUESDAY NIGHT THOUGH, AND WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR  
SINCE URBAN LAND USE CAN BE VULNERABLE TO FLASH FLOODING. SNOW IS  
LIKELY IN THE HIGHER ELEVATION AREAS OF THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST LIKE  
THE ADIRONDACKS AND THE GREEN AND WHITE MOUNTAINS, AND  
PROBABILITIES FOR 0.25 INCH OR MORE OF LIQUID EQUIVALENT IN THE  
FORM OF SNOW REMAIN 30-70 PERCENT THERE ON WEDNESDAY. IN THE WAKE  
OF THIS SYSTEM, EXPECT MULTIPLE DAYS OF COLD AND BRISK FLOW ACROSS  
THE GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST, WITH LAKE EFFECT SNOW PERSISTING  
THROUGH THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK, PERHAPS EXTENDING INTO SATURDAY  
OVER SOME LOCATIONS. MEANWHILE SHORTWAVE ENERGY AND A WEAK FRONTAL  
WAVE MAY PRODUCE A BAND OF LIGHT SNOW LATE THIS WEEK SOMEWHERE  
WITHIN AN AREA ENCOMPASSING THE MIDWEST/OHIO VALLEY/CENTRAL  
APPALACHIANS.  
 
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WILL SEE A RELATIVE BREAK IN PRECIPITATION  
ON TUESDAY AFTER A STEADY TRAIN OF ATMOSPHERIC RIVERS INTO THE  
REGION. BUT BY TUESDAY NIGHT OR WEDNESDAY MOIST INFLOW MAY GET  
RENEWED THERE AND ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION ARE LIKELY TO CONTINUE  
THROUGH LATE WEEK AND AT TIMES FARTHER EAST INTO THE NORTHERN  
ROCKIES. PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS FROM DAY TO DAY AND IN TOTAL VARY  
CONSIDERABLY IN MODELS AS THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF SPREAD FOR  
SYSTEM/FRONTAL SPECIFICS. DURING THE WEDNESDAY-WEDNESDAY NIGHT  
PERIOD COVERED BY THE DAY 5 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK, LATEST  
GUIDANCE IS STARTING TO SUGGEST MORE POTENTIAL FOR SOME MOISTURE  
FOCUS ALONG THE WEST COAST NEAR THE CALIFORNIA/OREGON BORDER. THE  
COMBINATION OF FORECAST TOTALS AND GUIDANCE SPREAD DO NOT SEEM TO  
WARRANT A RISK AREA YET. HOWEVER THIS REGION WILL BE SENSITIVE DUE  
TO RECENT/ONGOING RAINFALL AND WILL MONITOR GUIDANCE IN FUTURE  
CYCLES FOR ANY TRENDS TOWARD CLUSTERING IN THE WETTER END OF THE  
ENVELOPE. EVEN WITH A BETTER DEFINED FEATURE ARRIVING AROUND  
FRIDAY AND PUSHING INTO THE WEST ON SATURDAY, THERE ARE  
DIFFERENCES WITH THE SOUTHWARD EXTENT OF MOISTURE FOCUS DUE TO  
SPREAD FOR SURFACE LOW TRACK OVER THE PACIFIC ON FRIDAY AND THEN  
THE AMPLITUDE OF THE SUPPORTING UPPER TROUGH BY SATURDAY.  
 
THE EASTERN U.S. CAN EXPECT ONE MORE DAY OF ABOVE AVERAGE  
TEMPERATURES (BY 10-15F) ON TUESDAY, BEFORE UPPER TROUGHING PUSHES  
ALONG A SERIES OF COLD FRONTS THAT GRADUALLY COOL TEMPERATURES TO  
NEAR NORMAL ON WEDNESDAY AND GRADUALLY BELOW NORMAL INTO LATE WEEK.  
HIGH TEMPERATURES BY SATURDAY ARE FORECAST TO BE AROUND 10-15F  
BELOW NORMAL FOR THE OHIO VALLEY TO APPALACHIANS AND MID-ATLANTIC  
WHILE LOWS SHOULD BE 5-10F BELOW AVERAGE. COLDER THAN NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES WILL ALSO IMPACT THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S., AND LOWS  
COULD REACH 10-15F BELOW ZERO OVER NORTHERN NORTH DAKOTA AND  
MINNESOTA BY FRIDAY AND/OR SATURDAY. MEANWHILE, THE AMPLIFYING  
UPPER RIDGE OVER THE WEST WILL PROMOTE WARMING, WITH TEMPERATURES  
GENERALLY 5-10F ABOVE AVERAGE INCREASING IN COVERAGE BY THE SECOND  
HALF OF THE WEEK. LOCALLY HIGHER ANOMALIES ARE LIKELY IN THE  
SOUTHWEST AND HIGHS COULD REACH WELL INTO THE 70S. HIGHS OF 5-15F  
ABOVE NORMAL MAY REACH INTO THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS BY NEXT  
SATURDAY.  
 
RAUSCH/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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