831  
FXUS02 KWBC 291900  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
200 PM EST SUN DEC 29 2024  
 
VALID 12Z WED JAN 01 2025 - 12Z SUN JAN 05 2025  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
 
GUIDANCE IS CONSISTENT IN DEPICTING AN AMPLIFIED WESTERN RIDGE AND  
EASTERN TROUGH PATTERN BY LATE THIS WEEK, FOLLOWED BY AN EASTERN  
PACIFIC TROUGH PASSING THROUGH THE WEST INTO THE CENTRAL U.S. WHILE  
RIDGING REBUILDS OFF THE WEST COAST. THIS PATTERN/EVOLUTION WILL  
FAVOR COLDER TEMPERATURES FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS THROUGH MUCH OF  
THE EAST AND ABOVE NORMAL READINGS FROM THE GREAT BASIN/SOUTHWEST  
INTO FAR SOUTHERN PLAINS. COASTAL LOW PRESSURE WILL BRING RAIN AND  
SNOW TO THE NORTHEAST AROUND MIDWEEK, FOLLOWED BY MULTIPLE DAYS OF  
LAKE EFFECT SNOW. THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND NORTHERN ROCKIES WILL  
SEE EPISODES OF RAIN AND MOUNTAIN SNOW MID-LATE WEEK, WITH MOISTURE  
EVENTUALLY PUSHING SOMEWHAT SOUTH/EAST AS THE UPPER TROUGH  
APPROACHES/CROSSES THE WEST. BY NEXT WEEKEND THE TROUGH MAY SUPPORT  
A DEVELOPING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER THE PLAINS WITH POSSIBLE  
NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. SNOW AND SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. RAIN.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS AGREEABLE THAT UPPER TROUGHING WILL BE IN  
PLACE ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S. FOR THE LATTER HALF OF  
NEXT WEEK. LATEST GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW GRADUAL CONSOLIDATION  
FOR THE SURFACE LOW TRACKING FROM OVER/NEAR NEW ENGLAND AS OF EARLY  
WEDNESDAY INTO EASTERN CANADA THEREAFTER. THE CURRENT MAJORITY  
SHOWS THE BEST DEFINED LOW PRESSURE INLAND OVER SOUTHERN NEW  
ENGLAND AS OF 12Z WEDNESDAY AND THEN REACHING A LITTLE  
EAST/NORTHEAST OF MAINE BY EARLY THURSDAY (AS SUPPORTED BY THE  
MACHINE LEARNING MODELS). CONSENSUS/CONTINUITY PROVIDE HIGH  
CONFIDENCE IN THE FORECAST OF MEAN CYCLONIC FLOW IN THE SYSTEM'S  
WAKE. THERE IS STILL THE SIGNAL FOR A WEAK WAVE PROGRESSING FROM  
THE PLAINS THROUGH OR NEAR THE TENNESSEE VALLEY AND INTO THE  
WESTERN ATLANTIC THURSDAY INTO SATURDAY, THOUGH IF ANYTHING THE  
WAVE HAS BECOME A LITTLE LESS DEFINED TODAY. MOST DYNAMICAL  
SUPPORT FOR THIS FEATURE COMES FROM SHEARING PACIFIC ENERGY WHICH  
LOOKS TO HAVE LOW PREDICTABILITY A FEW DAYS OUT IN TIME, SO  
OCCASIONAL ADJUSTMENTS MAY WELL CONTINUE.  
 
IN THE WEST, THE UPPER RIDGE AXIS SEEMS WELL REPRESENTED IN THE  
GUIDANCE WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY BEFORE AN EASTERN PACIFIC TROUGH  
APPROACHES. HOWEVER THERE IS CONTINUED SPREAD AND VARIABILITY FOR  
ALONG/OFF-SHORE SURFACE DETAILS THAT WILL AFFECT THE PRECIPITATION  
FORECAST OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THEN THE EASTERN PACIFIC  
TROUGH CONTINUES TO SHOW SPREAD IN ITS TIMING AND DEPTH, AFFECTING  
THE FORECAST FROM WEST COAST INTO THE PLAINS. AS OF FRIDAY, ECMWF  
RUNS CONTINUE TO BE ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE SPREAD FOR THE CORE  
OF THE UPPER TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED SURFACE LOW BUT THE OVERALL  
GUIDANCE SPREAD HAS BEEN GETTING TRIMMED MORE ON THE NORTHERN  
SIDE--BRINGING THE OVERALL GUIDANCE MEAN SOUTHWARD SOMEWHAT.  
ECMWF/ECENS RUNS HAVE BEEN ON THE AMPLIFIED SIDE OF THE SPREAD AS  
THE TROUGH PUSHES THROUGH THE WEST NEXT WEEKEND, BUT 06Z/12Z GFS  
AND RECENT MACHINE LEARNING MODEL TRENDS SUGGEST A LEANING TOWARD  
THE MORE AMPLIFIED HALF OF PRIOR SPREAD AT LEAST (ESPECIALLY  
FAVORING DISCOUNTING THE VERY FLAT EARLIER CMC RUNS AND 00Z GFS).  
THERE ARE ALSO SIGNIFICANT TIMING DIFFERENCES, WITH THE 12Z CMC AND  
NEW 12Z ECMWF ON THE SLOWER SIDE WHILE MOST ML GUIDANCE (MINUS THE  
00Z AIFS MEAN) STRAYS FASTER THAN MOST DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE--EVEN  
SHOWING A CLOSED UPPER LOW OVER THE MIDWEST AS OF EARLY SUNDAY.  
PREFER AN INTERMEDIATE TIMING GIVEN THE SIGNIFICANT SPREAD THAT  
CURRENTLY EXISTS.  
 
A 00Z/06Z MODEL COMPOSITE (WITH MORE 00Z ECMWF/06Z GFS EMPHASIS)  
REPRESENTED THE BEST IDEAS OF GUIDANCE EARLY IN THE PERIOD. THEN  
THE 12Z/28 ECMWF COMPARED A LITTLE BETTER TO OTHER DYNAMICAL  
GUIDANCE FROM THE EAST PACIFIC THROUGH THE WEST, WHILE THE 00Z CMC  
COMPARED INCREASINGLY POORLY AS WELL. BY LATE IN THE PERIOD A BLEND  
AMONG THE 12Z/28 ECMWF AND 06Z GFS PLUS THE 00Z ECENS/06Z GEFS  
MEANS PROVIDED A GOOD DYNAMICAL/ML MODEL COMPROMISE ALONG WITH  
REASONABLE CONTINUITY.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
GRADUALLY DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE TRACKING NEAR THE NEW ENGLAND  
COAST WILL BRING PRECIPITATION TO THE NORTHEAST AROUND MIDWEEK.  
OVERALL EXPECT COASTAL AND LOWER ELEVATION RAIN, WHILE HIGHER  
ELEVATION AREAS OF THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST SUCH AS THE ADIRONDACKS  
AND THE GREEN AND WHITE MOUNTAINS WILL SEE ACCUMULATING SNOW.  
THERE MAY BE GREATER COVERAGE OF RAIN EARLY IN THE DAY, FOLLOWED BY  
EXPANSION OF SNOW AS COLDER AIR FILLS IN RIGHT BEHIND THE LOW. IN  
THE WAKE OF THIS SYSTEM, EXPECT MULTIPLE DAYS OF COLD AND BRISK  
FLOW ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST, WITH LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
PERSISTING THROUGH THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK, PERHAPS EXTENDING  
INTO SATURDAY OVER SOME LOCATIONS. MEANWHILE SHORTWAVE ENERGY AND A  
WEAK FRONTAL WAVE MAY PRODUCE A BAND OF LIGHT SNOW LATE THIS WEEK  
SOMEWHERE WITHIN AN AREA ENCOMPASSING THE MIDWEST/OHIO VALLEY TO  
CENTRAL APPALACHIANS. FARTHER SOUTH, PARTS OF THE WESTERN/CENTRAL  
GULF COAST COULD SEE ONE OR MORE PERIODS OF LIGHT RAIN.  
 
MOIST INFLOW INTO THE WEST SHOULD GET RENEWED BY WEDNESDAY AND  
CONTINUE THROUGH LATE WEEK, PRODUCING ADDITIONAL ROUNDS OF  
PRECIPITATION IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND AT TIMES FARTHER EAST  
INTO THE NORTHERN ROCKIES. PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS FROM DAY TO DAY  
AND IN TOTAL FOR ANY SPECIFIC LOCATION VARY CONSIDERABLY IN THE  
MODELS AS THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF SPREAD FOR SYSTEM/FRONTAL  
SPECIFICS. THERE IS STILL A SUBSET OF MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGESTING  
POTENTIAL FOR A PERIOD OF RELATIVELY HEAVIER PRECIPITATION ALONG  
THE WEST COAST NEAR THE CALIFORNIA/OREGON BORDER ON WEDNESDAY.  
HOWEVER OTHER SOLUTIONS VARY IN PLACEMENT/COVERAGE AND MAGNITUDE.  
THE COMBINATION OF FORECAST TOTALS AND GUIDANCE SPREAD CONTINUE TO  
FAVOR NOT INTRODUCING ANY RISK AREAS IN THE DAY 4 ERO. HOWEVER  
THIS REGION WILL BE SENSITIVE DUE TO RECENT/ONGOING RAINFALL AND  
WILL MONITOR GUIDANCE IN FUTURE CYCLES FOR ANY TRENDS TOWARD  
CLUSTERING IN THE WETTER END OF THE ENVELOPE. BY DAY 5 (THURSDAY  
THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT), PACIFIC NORTHWEST PRECIPITATION SHOULD  
SHIFT OR EXPAND NORTHWARD AHEAD OF A BETTER DEFINED SYSTEM  
APPROACHING BY VERY EARLY FRIDAY, WITH DETAILS AND MAGNITUDE AGAIN  
NOT FAVORING ANY ERO RISK AREA AT THIS TIME.  
 
THE UPPER TROUGH NEARING THE WEST COAST AS OF EARLY FRIDAY WILL  
CONTINUE ONWARD THEREAFTER, MOST LIKELY REACHING THE CENTRAL U.S.  
BY NEXT SUNDAY. RAIN AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW SHOULD SPREAD FROM  
THE NORTHWEST AND NORTHERN CALIFORNIA INTO THE NORTHERN-CENTRAL  
ROCKIES DURING FRIDAY-SATURDAY, WITH CONTINUED UNCERTAINTY FOR  
SOUTHWARD EXTENT AND DURATION IN LIGHT OF GUIDANCE SPREAD FOR UPPER  
TROUGH AMPLITUDE AND TIMING. SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SUPPORTED BY THE  
TROUGH WILL DEVELOP OVER THE PLAINS NEXT WEEKEND. WHILE THE  
DETAILS REMAIN NEBULOUS, PRECIPITATION CHANCES LOOK TO INCREASE  
GENERALLY ACROSS THE PLAINS AND MISSISSIPPI VALLEY FROM SATURDAY  
INTO SUNDAY. THIS PRECIPITATION WOULD BE SNOW IN THE NORTH-  
CENTRAL U.S. GIVEN THE COLD TEMPERATURES, WITH RAIN IN THE SOUTH.  
THERE MAY BE A TRANSITION ZONE OF ICE IN BETWEEN THE RAIN AND SNOW,  
AND SOME LOCATIONS COULD TRANSITION FROM SNOW TO RAIN OR VICE  
VERSA. THE CENTRAL PLAINS INTO MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY APPEARS  
MOST LIKELY FOR TRANSITIONING PRECIPITATION TYPES AT THIS POINT.  
KEEP AN EYE ON FUTURE FORECASTS AS DETAILS ARE LIKELY TO CHANGE.  
BEHIND THIS SYSTEM, ANOTHER FRONT COULD BRING MORE PRECIPITATION TO  
THE NORTHWEST NEXT WEEKEND BUT WITH LOW CONFIDENCE IN SPECIFICS  
FOR NOW.  
 
GENERALLY, THE MEAN UPPER RIDGE OVER THE WEST WILL PROMOTE ABOVE  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES FROM THE GREAT BASIN AND SOUTHWEST TO THE  
SOUTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS THROUGH THE PERIOD, AND THE MEAN TROUGH IN  
THE CENTRAL/EASTERN U.S. WILL LEAD TO COOLER THAN NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES FROM THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. INTO THE MIDWEST TO  
EASTERN SEABOARD (AFTER ONE MORE WARMER THAN AVERAGE DAY IN THE  
NORTHEAST ON WEDNESDAY). THE NORTHERN PLAINS IS FORECAST TO SEE THE  
MOST ANOMALOUS TEMPERATURES, AROUND 10-20F BELOW NORMAL FOR HIGHS  
AND AROUND 5-15F BELOW NORMAL FOR LOWS. THIS TRANSLATES TO HIGHS  
BARELY REACHING 0F AND LOWS BETWEEN -10F AND -15F OR SO IN SOME  
AREAS. MEANWHILE HIGHS WILL REACH WELL INTO THE 70S IN THE DESERT  
SOUTHWEST, AND TEMPERATURES COULD WARM INTO THE LOW 80S IN SOUTHERN  
TEXAS BY NEXT WEEKEND.  
 
RAUSCH/TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC MEDIUM  
RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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