931  
FXUS02 KWBC 020711  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
211 AM EST SUN FEB 2 2025  
 
VALID 12Z WED FEB 05 2025 - 12Z SUN FEB 09 2025  
 
...ANOTHER ROUND OF PRECIPITATION COULD BE HEAVY FOR CALIFORNIA  
AROUND THURSDAY...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
GUIDANCE SHOWS LOW AMPLITUDE UPPER FLOW ACROSS MUCH OF THE LOWER  
48 LATER THIS WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND, BUT THE OVERALL PATTERN AND  
EMBEDDED FEATURES WILL STILL PRODUCE AREAS OF IMPACTFUL WEATHER.  
PRECIPITATION OVER CALIFORNIA IS FORECAST TO LESSEN SOMEWHAT FOR  
MIDWEEK, BUT HEAVY RAIN AND SNOW AMOUNTS COULD GET RENEWED AROUND  
THURSDAY. MOISTURE FARTHER INLAND WILL SUPPORT PRECIPITATION ACROSS  
THE GREAT BASIN AND ROCKIES, WITH SIGNIFICANT SNOW POSSIBLE FOR  
HIGHER ELEVATIONS. FARTHER EAST, MOISTURE RETURN AND SOME DEGREE OF  
FRONTAL WAVE DEVELOPMENT WILL LEAD TO INCREASING PRECIPITATION  
CHANCES ACROSS THE EASTERN THIRD OF THE LOWER 48 MID TO LATE WEEK,  
INCLUDING POSSIBLE WINTER WEATHER FOR PARTS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC AND  
NORTHEAST. ANOTHER ROUND OF PRECIPITATION IS POSSIBLE IN SIMILAR  
AREAS BY NEXT WEEKEND WITH ANOTHER LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM. THE QUASI-  
ZONAL FLOW PATTERN WITH SUBTROPICAL RIDGING NEAR CUBA WILL PROMOTE  
ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ACROSS A MAJORITY OF THE COUNTRY, THOUGH  
A CANADIAN SURFACE HIGH NUDGING INTO THE NORTHWESTERN TO NORTH-  
CENTRAL U.S. SHOULD LEAD TO BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES THERE WITH  
COLDEST ANOMALIES INTO WEDNESDAY.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
FROM THE LARGE SCALE PERSPECTIVE, THE ENSEMBLE MEANS HAVE BEEN  
PROVIDING A FAIRLY STEADY AND AGREEABLE FORECAST OVER RECENT DAYS--  
HELPING TO ANCHOR THE FORECAST WITHIN SOME PRONOUNCED SPREAD FOR  
VARIOUS SIGNIFICANT FEATURES. THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD STARTS WITH  
AN UPPER LOW OFFSHORE OF VANCOUVER ISLAND/WASHINGTON STATE WHILE  
THERE IS SOME VORTICITY SPINNING FARTHER EAST THAT PROMOTES  
SHORTWAVE TROUGH DEVELOPMENT (WITHIN BROADER CYCLONIC FLOW)  
WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY IN THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S., SUPPORTING SURFACE  
LOW FORMATION. THERE WAS STILL CONSIDERABLE SPREAD IN THE POSITION  
AND STRENGTH OF THE SURFACE LOW BY 12Z THURSDAY SOMEWHERE IN THE  
GREAT LAKES/OHIO VALLEY, INCLUDING A FARTHER SOUTH LOW TRACK FROM  
GEFS/GFS RUNS. THE NEWER 00Z ECMWF/CMC RUNS ARE AT LEAST SOMEWHAT  
AGREEABLE IN A POSITION OVER SOUTHERN ONTARIO 12Z THURSDAY AND  
MOVING QUICKLY NORTHEASTWARD.  
 
REGARDING THE WESTERN UPPER LOW, AT LEAST SOME OF THE OUTLIERS  
LIKE OLDER CMC RUNS THAT PULLED IT WELL OFFSHORE ARE IN BETTER  
AGREEMENT NOW, BUT THE EXACT SHAPE OF FLOW AROUND THE UPPER LOW AND  
ENERGY PIVOTING THROUGH THE SOUTHERN SIDE ARE MORE VARIABLE FOR  
MID TO LATE WEEK. MODELS ARE AT LEAST AGREEABLE THAT AN AR WILL  
IMPACT CALIFORNIA ON THURSDAY-FRIDAY BUT SURFACE LOW DETAILS MOVING  
FROM THE EASTERN PACIFIC INTO CALIFORNIA VARY. LATE WEEK INTO THE  
WEEKEND, THIS TROUGH SHOULD PIVOT EASTWARD INTO THE WEST AND MOST  
ML MODELS MATCHED UP FAIRLY WELL WITH THE ENSEMBLE MEANS AND AN  
AVERAGE OF RECENT ECMWF/GFS RUNS FOR THE OVERALL UPPER TROUGH.  
UPSTREAM ENERGY DROPPING DOWN FROM ALASKA COULD COMPLICATE THE  
FORECAST WITH RESPECT TO SPECIFICS THOUGH. THE OVERALL SHAPE AND  
POSITION OF THE TROUGH BY SATURDAY HAS DECENT SUPPORT FROM  
TELECONNECTIONS RELATIVE TO THE UPSTREAM PACIFIC/ALASKA UPPER  
RIDGE. THE TROUGH AXIS MOVING QUICKLY EASTWARD COULD SPIN UP  
ANOTHER SURFACE LOW THIS WEEKEND OVER THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. AND  
QUICKLY THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY OR SO. SIMILAR TO THE LATE WEEK  
SYSTEM, THE GFS WAS MORE SUPPRESSED WITH THE DEVELOPING LOW TRACK  
COMPARED TO THE ECMWF.  
 
EARLY IN THE FORECAST PERIOD, WPC USED A BLEND OF MAINLY  
DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE, AND INCREASED THE PROPORTION OF ENSEMBLE  
MEANS AS THE PERIOD PROGRESSED.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
THE LONG-LASTING ATMOSPHERIC RIVER (AR) TAKING AIM AT CALIFORNIA  
WILL FINALLY WEAKEN AND MOVE SOUTH BY WEDNESDAY, LEADING TO REDUCED  
RAIN AMOUNTS. LIGHT TO MODERATE SHOWERS COULD LINGER OVER SOUTHERN  
CALIFORNIA, BUT THESE LOOK TO STAY UNDER ANY FLOODING THRESHOLDS  
EVEN FOR THE SENSITIVE BURN SCARS IN THAT REGION. THUS DO NOT HAVE  
ANY RISK AREA DEPICTED IN THE DAY 4/WEDNESDAY ERO, BUT WILL  
CONTINUE TO MONITOR. MEANWHILE LOWER ELEVATION RAIN/HIGHER  
ELEVATION SNOW COULD REACH OREGON INTO NORTHERN CALIFORNIA  
WEDNESDAY AND INCREASE IN MAGNITUDE IN CALIFORNIA ON THURSDAY AS  
ANOTHER AR STRENGTHENS. THIS AR EVENT SHOULD BE SHORTER-LIVED THAN  
THE NEAR TERM/SHORT RANGE AR, BUT SOME LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN AMOUNTS  
ARE POSSIBLE OVER AREAS THAT WILL HAVE QUITE WET ANTECEDENT  
CONDITIONS BY THAT TIME. CURRENTLY WILL START WITH A MARGINAL RISK  
IN THE DAY 5/THURSDAY ERO FOR NORTHERN/CENTRAL CALIFORNIA, WITHOUT  
ANY SLIGHT RISK AREA DUE TO THE FASTER MOVEMENT OF THE AR. RISK  
UPGRADES ARE POSSIBLE IN FUTURE CYCLES THOUGH. PRECIPITATION LOOKS  
TO PERSIST INTO FRIDAY BUT ABATE INTO SATURDAY FOR CALIFORNIA, BUT  
ANOTHER ROUND OF PRECIPITATION IS POSSIBLE FOR THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST.  
 
SNOW WILL ALSO BE LIKELY FROM HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE CASCADES  
AND SIERRA NEVADA ACROSS MUCH OF THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST INTO THE  
NORTHERN/CENTRAL ROCKIES. THE HEAVIEST SNOW AMOUNTS ARE LIKELY IN  
HIGHER ELEVATIONS, BUT THE NORTHERN GREAT BASIN MAY SEE SNOW AS  
WELL. THE THURSDAY AR MAY PRODUCE A BETTER DEFINED PERIOD OF  
ENHANCED SNOWFALL IN THE SIERRA NEVADA. THE PATTERN WILL ALSO  
PROMOTE STRONG WINDS ESPECIALLY ON MOUNTAIN RIDGES LIKE THE SIERRA  
AND CENTRAL ROCKIES, BUT SOME GUSTY CONDITIONS MAY REACH LOWER  
ELEVATIONS OF THE GREAT BASIN AND FOUR CORNERS TOO.  
 
MEANWHILE FARTHER EAST, MOISTURE WILL BE PRESENT BY WEDNESDAY-  
THURSDAY IN THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S. AS A DEVELOPING FRONTAL WAVE  
SHOULD REACH THE OHIO VALLEY/GREAT LAKES BY EARLY THURSDAY. AN  
EXPANDING AREA OF PRECIPITATION WILL DEVELOP, PARTICULARLY ACROSS  
OR SOMEWHAT NORTH OR SOUTH OF THE OHIO VALLEY. THERE CONTINUES TO  
BE SOME THREAT FOR FLOODING SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE OHIO  
VALLEY/CENTRAL OR SOUTH-CENTRAL APPALACHIANS AS INSTABILITY COULD  
REACH SUFFICIENTLY FAR NORTH, AND DEPENDING ON SURFACE WAVE  
STRENGTH (ESPECIALLY ON THE WEAKER SIDE OF THE SPREAD) THERE COULD  
BE STRONG WESTERLY FLOW AT LOW LEVELS JUST ABOVE THE SURFACE TO  
PROMOTE SOME TRAINING AND TERRAIN ENHANCEMENT. HOWEVER THE WIDE  
SPREAD FOR SURFACE DETAILS AND QPF PLACEMENT FAVOR HOLDING OFF WITH  
ANY DAY 4/WEDNESDAY ERO RISK AREAS. THE NORTHEAST AND NORTHERN  
MID-ATLANTIC HAVE POTENTIAL FOR WINTRY WEATHER ON WEDNESDAY-  
THURSDAY WHERE COLD AIR HANGS ON. A TRANSITION ZONE OF SLEET AND/OR  
FREEZING RAIN MAY EXIST BETWEEN THE SNOW OVER FAR NORTHERN AREAS  
AND THE RAIN TO THE SOUTH. ENERGY EJECTING FROM THE WEST NEXT  
SATURDAY MAY PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT OF ANOTHER WAVE OVER THE CENTRAL  
U.S. WITH ASSOCIATED NORTHERN TIER SNOW AND AN EXPANDING AREA OF  
RAIN OVER THE EAST-CENTRAL U.S.  
 
COLDER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST FOR NORTHWESTERN AND  
NORTH-CENTRAL PARTS OF THE LOWER 48 THROUGH THE PERIOD. MONTANA TO  
THE DAKOTAS WILL BE PARTICULARLY COLD, WITH ANOMALIES OF 20-35  
DEGREES BELOW NORMAL AND HIGHS BARELY REACHING 0F IN SOME LOCATIONS  
INTO WEDNESDAY. THESE AREAS WILL LIKELY REMAIN BELOW AVERAGE BUT  
WITH SOME MODERATION LATER THIS WEEK. MEANWHILE, OTHER AREAS FROM  
THE FOUR CORNERS STATES THROUGH THE EAST SHOULD SEE ABOVE TO WELL  
ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES DURING THE PERIOD. SOME AREAS WILL LIKELY  
SEE ONE OR MORE DAYS OF MIN/MAX TEMPERATURES REACHING 20 OR MORE  
DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL AND SOME DAILY RECORDS ARE LIKELY TO BE SET.  
CURRENT FORECASTS SUGGEST THAT DAILY RECORDS MAY BE MOST NUMEROUS  
AROUND WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY. SOME SLIGHT COOLING IS POSSIBLE INTO  
FRIDAY-SATURDAY BUT TEMPERATURES SHOULD REMAIN WELL ABOVE AVERAGE  
ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TIER. UPPER TROUGHING AND A COLD FRONT WILL  
LIKELY FINALLY COOL THE FOUR CORNERS TO PARTS OF THE SOUTH-CENTRAL  
U.S. BY NEXT SUNDAY.  
 
TATE/RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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