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FXUS02 KWBC 090706  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
206 AM EST SUN FEB 9 2025  
 
VALID 12Z WED FEB 12 2025 - 12Z SUN FEB 16 2025  
 
...ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN ON TAP FOR THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD WITH  
PERIODS OF HEAVY RAIN AND WINTER WEATHER ACROSS PARTS OF THE WEST  
AND THE CENTRAL-EASTERN U.S....  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
GUIDANCE STILL SHOWS MULTIPLE SYSTEMS PRODUCING SIGNIFICANT  
WEATHER FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK THROUGH NEXT WEEKEND. FIRST, A  
LINGERING WAVY FRONT INITIALLY OVER THE SOUTHERN TIER AND  
DEVELOPING LOW PRESSURE LIFTING NORTHEASTWARD LATE WEDNESDAY INTO  
THURSDAY WILL PRODUCE AN AREA OF HEAVY RAINFALL AND FLOODING  
CONCERNS OVER PARTS OF THE SOUTHEASTERN QUADRANT OF THE LOWER 48  
WITH SNOW FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS/MIDWEST INTO THE NORTHEAST. THEN  
A VIGOROUS EASTERN PACIFIC SYSTEM WILL BRING HEAVY RAIN AND  
MOUNTAIN SNOW TO CALIFORNIA DURING THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK WITH  
SOME HEAVY SNOW EXTENDING INTO THE ROCKIES. CONTINUED PROGRESSION  
OF THE SYSTEM'S UPPER TROUGH WILL LIKELY SUPPORT ANOTHER AREA OF  
LOW PRESSURE REACHING THE EAST BY SUNDAY, WITH ADDITIONAL HEAVY  
RAIN POSSIBLE OVER SOUTH-CENTRAL AREAS AND SNOW FROM THE UPPER  
MIDWEST INTO NORTHEAST. BOTH EASTERN SYSTEMS MAY HAVE A WINTRY MIX  
TRANSITION ZONE BETWEEN RAIN/SNOW AREAS. THE APPROACH OF A FARTHER  
NORTH PACIFIC SYSTEM SHOULD BRING SOME MOISTURE INTO THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST NEXT WEEKEND. THE NORTHERN-CENTRAL PLAINS SHOULD SEE THE  
MOST PRONOUNCED COLD ANOMALIES, WHILE GRADUALLY INCREASING PACIFIC  
INFLUENCE SHOULD HELP THE WEST TO MODERATE FROM ITS COLD  
TEMPERATURES AS OF MIDWEEK. THE GULF COAST AND FAR SOUTHEAST WILL  
SHOULD SEE THE MOST DAYS OF ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
AN OPERATIONAL MODEL COMPOSITE OF THE 12Z ECMWF/18Z GFS/12Z CMC/12Z  
UKMET, IN ORDER FROM MORE TO LESS WEIGHT, PROVIDED A REASONABLE  
STARTING POINT FOR THE EARLY-MIDDLE PART OF THE FORECAST. GUIDANCE  
CLUSTERING HAS STEADILY IMPROVED FOR THE SYSTEM AFFECTING THE EAST,  
WITH RECENT GFS TRENDS BRINGING IT MORE IN LINE WITH THE MAJORITY  
ECMWF CLUSTER--THOUGH THE ECMWF HAS ELONGATED THE UPPER TROUGH A  
BIT COMPARED TO SOME EARLIER RUNS IN A NOD TO A COMPROMISE. MACHINE  
LEARNING (ML) MODELS STILL SHOW SOME SPREAD FOR UPPER TROUGH  
DETAILS SO CONSENSUS MAY STILL MAKE SOME MODEST ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE  
SURFACE LOW AND/OR TRAILING COLD FRONT IN FUTURE RUNS. THE FAVORED  
BLEND'S DEPTH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ML MODEL AVERAGE. THE SYSTEM  
APPROACHING THE WEST COAST HAS BEEN GETTING GRADUALLY STRONGER IN  
RECENT DAYS, WHILE SOME NORTH-SOUTH TRACK SPREAD PERSISTS. ML  
MODELS GENERALLY FAVOR A TRACK INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST, WHICH  
THE MULTI-MODEL BLEND ACCOMMODATES. THERE HAS BEEN A MODEST SLOWER  
TREND NOTED OVER THE PAST DAY OR SO. GREATER DIFFERENCES EXIST WITH  
QPF SPECIFICS.  
 
DAYS 6-7 NEXT WEEKEND SHIFTED RAPIDLY TOWARD MORE 18Z GEFS/12Z  
ECENS MEAN INPUT, BY SUNDAY REACHING 70 PERCENT, WHILE  
TRANSITIONING TOWARD ONLY THE OLD 00Z/08 ECMWF FOR OPERATIONAL  
MODEL DETAIL AT THAT TIME. LATEST CMC RUNS STRAY TO THE SLOW SIDE  
WITH THE EMERGING WESTERN TROUGH BY SUNDAY, WHILE THE 18Z GFS  
STRAYED TO THE FAST SIDE WITH EASTERN U.S. LOW PRESSURE AT THAT  
TIME. THE 12Z ECMWF ALSO LEANED A BIT FAST WITH THE UPPER TROUGH BY  
SUNDAY, WITH THE ENSEMBLE MEANS AND 00Z/08 ECMWF MATCHING BEST FOR  
TIMING. ML MODELS SHOW A FAIR AMOUNT OF SPREAD FOR THE EASTERN U.S.  
SURFACE DETAILS BY SUNDAY, WITH THE FLATTER CMC DEPICTION STILL  
POTENTIALLY IN PLAY BASED ON ONE ML MODEL SOLUTION. HOWEVER MOST  
OTHER ML MODELS SIDE CLOSER TO THE FAVORED ENSEMBLE MEANS AND OLD  
00Z ECMWF. THE NEW 00Z ECMWF RUN SEEMS TO HAVE NUDGED A BIT IN THIS  
DIRECTION. FARTHER WEST, GUIDANCE SHOWS BETTER THAN AVERAGE  
AGREEMENT ON ANOTHER PACIFIC SYSTEM WHOSE FARTHER NORTH TRACK  
SHOULD ULTIMATELY BRING THE EASTERN PERIPHERY OF ITS CIRCULATION  
TOWARD THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
AN INITIAL WAVY FRONT OVER THE SOUTHERN TIER, NEARLY PARALLEL TO  
UPPER FLOW, ALONG WITH ANOMALOUS MOISTURE WILL PROMOTE AN ONGOING  
FOCUS FOR HEAVY RAINFALL ALONG AND NORTH OF THE BOUNDARY AS OF  
EARLY WEDNESDAY. AN UPPER TROUGH EMERGING FROM THE WEST SHOULD  
DEVELOP AN EMBEDDED LOW THAT TRACKS NORTHEASTWARD INTO THURSDAY.  
GUIDANCE IS MAINTAINING THE SIGNAL FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL WITH  
FLASH FLOOD POTENTIAL FROM THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO THE  
SOUTHERN HALF OR SO OF THE APPALACHIANS DURING THE DAY 4 EXCESSIVE  
RAINFALL OUTLOOK TIME FRAME. THE LATEST ISSUANCE WILL REFLECT  
FAIRLY MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SLIGHT RISK AND SURROUNDING  
MARGINAL RISK AREAS BASED ON LATEST GUIDANCE. RAINFALL FROM THE  
PREVIOUS DAY WOULD MAKE THIS REGION INCREASINGLY SENSITIVE TO  
ADDITIONAL RAINFALL. BY DAY 5/THURSDAY, THE COLD FRONT TRAILING  
FROM DEPARTING LOW PRESSURE SHOULD REACH THE SOUTHEAST WITH THE  
POSSIBILITY OF LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL (MOST LIKELY OVER NORTHERN  
FLORIDA INTO GEORGIA). AT THIS TIME THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF  
SPREAD FOR SPECIFICS AND THIS REGION HAS DRY ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS  
WITH HIGH FLASH FLOOD GUIDANCE VALUES. THUS DID NOT DEPICT A RISK  
AREA AT THIS TIME BUT WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR FOR ANY TRENDS  
TOWARD BETTER CLUSTERING AND/OR RAIN RATES ON THE HIGHER END OF THE  
ENVELOPE.  
 
GUIDANCE STILL DIFFERS ON SOME OF THE DETAILS OF MOISTURE ARRIVING  
INTO CALIFORNIA AROUND WEDNESDAY-WEDNESDAY NIGHT AHEAD OF A  
VIGOROUS EASTERN PACIFIC SYSTEM. VARIOUS MODEL SOLUTIONS FALL  
WITHIN THE ESTABLISHED MARGINAL RISK AREA ON THE DAY 4 ERO SO THAT  
AREA REMAINS UNCHANGED. THERE IS SOMEWHAT BETTER AGREEMENT FOR  
HEAVIEST ACTIVITY ON DAY 5/THURSDAY WITH FAVORABLE MOISTURE  
ANOMALIES/ENHANCED IVT VALUES, FAVORING INTRODUCTION OF A SLIGHT  
RISK AREA OVER A MAJORITY OF COASTAL CALIFORNIA AND EXTENDING INTO  
FAVORED TERRAIN OF THE SIERRA NEVADA. THIS AREA REFLECTS THE BEST  
OVERLAP OF HEAVIEST FORECAST RAINFALL AND CURRENT SENSITIVITIES  
FROM EITHER WET ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS OR BURN SCARS.  
 
CONTINUED PROGRESSION OF THIS SYSTEM WILL SPREAD AREAS OF HEAVY  
SNOW FARTHER INLAND TO THE ROCKIES, AND THEN BY NEXT WEEKEND  
SUPPORT ANOTHER EASTERN U.S. SYSTEM THAT MAY GENERATE ADDITIONAL  
HEAVY RAINFALL OVER OR NEAR SOME AREAS EXPECTED TO SEE SIGNIFICANT  
TOTALS FROM THE PREVIOUS EVENT.  
 
BOTH SYSTEMS AFFECTING THE EAST MAY PRODUCE AREAS OF POTENTIALLY  
DISRUPTIVE WINTRY PRECIPITATION. PROBABILITIES OF 0.25 INCH IN THE  
FORM OF SNOW SUGGEST THE BEST POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT  
ACCUMULATIONS WILL EXTEND FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS THROUGH THE  
MIDWEST AND THEN PARTS OF THE GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST/NORTHERN  
MID-ATLANTIC. AT THIS TIME THE AXIS OF NEXT WEEKEND'S POTENTIAL  
EVENT LOOKS TO BE A LITTLE NORTHWARD OF THE ONE THIS WEDNESDAY INTO  
THURSDAY. A TRANSITION ZONE OF FREEZING RAIN AND/OR SLEET MAY EXIST  
BETWEEN THE SNOW AREA AND RAIN TO THE SOUTH. CONTINUE TO MONITOR  
FORECASTS AS GUIDANCE REFINES IMPORTANT DETAILS.  
 
ANOTHER PACIFIC SYSTEM COMING INTO THE PICTURE BY THE WEEKEND MAY  
SPREAD SOME PRECIPITATION INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. EXPECT  
MODERATE AMOUNTS OVERALL BUT SOME LOCALIZED ENHANCEMENT WILL BE  
POSSIBLE.  
 
THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS WILL SEE THE MOST PERSISTENT BELOW  
NORMAL TEMPERATURES FROM WEDNESDAY THROUGH THE WEEKEND, WITH MOST  
DAYS 15-30F BELOW NORMAL ASIDE FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS MODERATING  
BRIEFLY ON FRIDAY. COLD AIR WILL EXTEND INTO THE WEST, AND IN  
PARTICULAR THE NORTHWEST, THOUGH WITH A GRADUAL TREND TOWARD LESS  
EXTREME ANOMALIES HEADING INTO THE WEEKEND AS PACIFIC FLOW GAINS  
INFLUENCE. A FEW LOCATIONS IN THE NORTHWEST COULD SEE DAILY  
RECORDS FOR LOWS/COLD HIGHS ON WEDNESDAY. ANOMALOUS WARMTH SHOULD  
BE CONFINED MOSTLY TO THE GULF COAST AND FAR SOUTHEAST. PARTS OF  
FLORIDA COULD SEE RECORD HIGHS ON ONE OR MORE DAYS, WHILE READINGS  
COULD GET CLOSE TO RECORDS ON WEDNESDAY FARTHER WEST. SYSTEMS  
TRACKING THROUGH THE EAST WILL BRIEFLY BRING SOME OF THIS WARMTH  
NORTHWARD ON THURSDAY AND AGAIN DURING THE WEEKEND.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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