847  
FXUS02 KWBC 110659  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
159 AM EST TUE FEB 11 2025  
 
VALID 12Z FRI FEB 14 2025 - 12Z TUE FEB 18 2025  
 
...RAINFALL TRENDING LIGHTER FOR COASTAL CALIFORNIA BY FRIDAY WHILE  
HEAVY HEAVY SNOW CONTINUES FROM THE SIERRA NEVADA INLAND...  
 
...ANOTHER ROUND OF SNOW FROM THE MIDWEST TO NORTHEAST FRIDAY-  
SUNDAY WITH HEAVY RAIN LIKELY IN THE TENNESSEE VALLEY AND NEARBY  
AREAS ESPECIALLY ON SATURDAY...  
 
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
THE VERY WET AND SNOWY SYSTEM REACHING THE WEST COAST ON THURSDAY  
WILL INITIALLY SPREAD RAIN AND HEAVY MOUNTAIN SNOW OVER THE WEST ON  
FRIDAY. THEN EXPECT A BROAD AREA OF HEAVY RAIN TO DEVELOP FROM NEAR  
THE SOUTH-CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI VALLEY THROUGH THE TENNESSEE VALLEY  
INTO CENTRAL APPALACHIANS BY SATURDAY AS DEVELOPING LOW PRESSURE  
TRACKS NORTHEASTWARD, WITH THE LOW CONTINUING THROUGH THE NORTHEAST  
INTO THE CANADIAN MARITIMES SUNDAY-MONDAY. AREAS FROM THE UPPER  
MIDWEST THROUGH THE NORTHEAST WILL SEE THE BEST POTENTIAL FOR  
SIGNIFICANT WINTRY WEATHER WITH THIS SYSTEM. THE NEXT PACIFIC  
SYSTEM WILL TRACK FARTHER NORTH THAN THE LEADING ONE, CONFINING  
THE RAIN AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW MORE TO THE NORTHWEST DURING THE  
WEEKEND. THIS SYSTEM SHOULD SPREAD SOME RAIN AND MOUNTAIN SNOW  
SOUTHEASTWARD INTO THE CENTRAL ROCKIES BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE  
NORTHERN-CENTRAL PLAINS WILL SEE THE MOST PRONOUNCED AND PERSISTENT  
COLD ANOMALIES, WITH A MODIFIED FORM OF THIS COLD REACHING THE EAST  
EARLY NEXT WEEK. INCREASING PACIFIC INFLUENCE SHOULD HELP THE WEST  
TO MODERATE FROM ITS CHILLY TEMPERATURES LEADING INTO FRIDAY. THE  
SOUTHEAST WILL TEND TO SEE ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES DURING THE  
WEEKEND, WITH SOME OF THIS WARMTH BRIEFLY EXTENDING NORTHWARD.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
BROADLY SPEAKING, LATEST GUIDANCE HAS DISPLAYED BETTER THAN AVERAGE  
AGREEMENT AND CONTINUITY FOR MOST ASPECTS OF THE FORECAST, BUT AS  
USUAL THERE ARE SOME EMBEDDED DETAIL UNCERTAINTIES ALONG WITH ONE  
SOLUTION OR ANOTHER DIFFERING FROM CONSENSUS AT TIMES. OF  
PARTICULAR INTEREST IS THE EASTERN U.S. SYSTEM DURING THE WEEKEND.  
A MULTI-RUN AVERAGE OF THE ECMWF/ECENS MEAN HAVE BEEN PARTICULARLY  
STABLE WITH AN EARLY SUNDAY SURFACE LOW POSITION OVER THE CENTRAL  
APPALACHIANS/NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC, WITH OTHER SOLUTIONS WAFFLING  
SOMEWHAT NORTH OR SOUTH DEPENDING ON EXACT DETAILS OF UPPER  
DYNAMICS. THEREAFTER, MOST MODELS SHOW MUCH STRONGER DEVELOPMENT  
(EVEN IF NOT QUITE TO THE DEGREE OF THE ECMWF) THAN RECENT GFS RUNS  
AS THE SYSTEM CONTINUES INTO THE CANADIAN MARITIMES. THIS MAY BE  
RELATED TO THE GFS BEING A LITTLE SLOWER TO PULL AN INITIAL HUDSON  
BAY/SOUTHEASTERN CANADA UPPER LOW EASTWARD. MACHINE LEARNING (ML)  
MODELS ARE GENERALLY NOT QUITE AS DEEP AS THE DYNAMICAL MODEL  
AVERAGE WITH THIS SYSTEM SUNDAY-MONDAY BUT CAN SOMETIMES BE A  
LITTLE SLOW TO REFLECT A DEEPER CONSENSUS A FEW DAYS OUT IN TIME. A  
MODEL/ENSEMBLE MEAN BLEND LOOKS GOOD FOR THE NEXT UPPER TROUGH  
REACHING THE WEST EARLY NEXT WEEK, WITH REASONABLE AGREEMENT FROM  
THE ML MODELS. THE 18Z GFS GOT QUESTIONABLY SHARP WITH ITS  
SHORTWAVE BY NEXT TUESDAY.  
 
THE UPDATED FORECAST STARTED WITH MORE 18Z GFS/12Z ECMWF EMPHASIS  
RELATIVE TO THE 12Z UKMET/CMC EARLY-MID PERIOD, REFLECTING  
CONSENSUS/CONTINUITY FOR SIGNIFICANT FEATURES. THEN BY MONDAY-  
TUESDAY THE BLEND INCORPORATED 30-40 PERCENT TOTAL WEIGHT OF THE  
18Z GEFS/12Z ECENS MEANS WHILE SWITCHING GFS INPUT FROM THE 18Z RUN  
TO 12Z RUN.  
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
AS OF EARLY FRIDAY, UPPER TROUGHING WILL BE STARTING INTO MOVE INTO  
THE WEST WHILE THE ASSOCIATED SURFACE FRONT PASSES THROUGH FAR  
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE DAY 4 EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OUTLOOK  
MAINTAINS A MARGINAL RISK AREA ALONG THE FAR SOUTHERN COAST, WITH  
LINGERING MOISTURE ALONG THE FRONT EARLY IN THE DAY AND THE UPPER  
TROUGH PROVIDING SOME POSSIBLE INSTABILITY OVER BURN SCAR AREAS  
THAT WOULD BE MOST SENSITIVE TO ADDITIONAL SHOWERS.  
 
CONTINUED PROGRESSION OF THIS SYSTEM WILL SPREAD AREAS OF RAIN AND  
HEAVY MOUNTAIN SNOW FARTHER INLAND, EASTWARD TO THE ROCKIES. THE  
UPPER TROUGH WILL LIKELY SUPPORT SURFACE LOW DEVELOPMENT OVER THE  
EASTERN HALF OF THE COUNTRY DURING THE WEEKEND. GUIDANCE HAS BEEN  
FAIRLY AGREEABLE AND CONSISTENT IN DEPICTING POTENTIAL FOR A BROAD  
AXIS OF HEAVY RAINFALL FROM THE SOUTH-CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI VALLEY  
NORTHEASTWARD INTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS ON SATURDAY, WITH  
ANOMALOUS MOISTURE REPRESENTING A COMBINATION OF PACIFIC AND GULF  
ORIGINS. SOME INSTABILITY SHOULD HELP TO ENHANCE RAIN RATES OVER  
AT LEAST SOUTHERN AREAS AS WELL. IN ADDITION, A LARGE PORTION OF  
THIS REGION WILL HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED HEAVY RAINFALL IN THE  
SHORTER TERM. REFLECTING THE COMBINATION OF FORECAST RAINFALL AND  
LIKELY WET GROUND CONDITIONS, THE DAY 5/SATURDAY ERO STARTS OUT  
WITH A BROAD SLIGHT RISK AREA FROM THE SOUTH-CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY INTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS. A DECENT PORTION OF THIS AREA  
WOULD BE CONSIDERED A "HIGHER END" SLIGHT RISK AT THIS TIME, WITH  
CLOSE EVALUATION FOR POTENTIAL UPGRADE AT SOME POINT DEPENDING ON  
FUTURE GUIDANCE BEHAVIOR/CLUSTERING. THE SURROUNDING MARGINAL RISK  
EXTENDS INTO THE NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC WHERE GUIDANCE DEPICTS LESS  
HEAVY BUT STILL SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL IN COMBINATION WITH WHAT WILL  
LIKELY BE WET GROUND FROM SHORT-TERM SNOW AND RAIN. THERE IS A  
MODEST SIGNAL THAT ACTIVITY COULD ALREADY GET LOCALLY HEAVY OVER  
PARTS OF THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY LATE IN THE DAY 4 TIME FRAME BUT  
AGREEMENT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH YET FOR A RISK AREA THEN.  
 
MEANWHILE, AREAS FROM THE MIDWEST INTO THE NORTHEAST WILL SEE THE  
BEST POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOW FRIDAY-SUNDAY. A TRANSITION  
ZONE OF WINTRY MIX MAY SEPARATE THE RAIN/SNOW AREAS. THERE IS STILL  
SOME UNCERTAINTY IN THE PRECISE STRENGTH OF THE SURFACE LOW,  
AFFECTING THE EXTENT OF VARIOUS PRECIPITATION TYPES. THERE MAY BE  
A PERIOD OF GUSTY WINDS OVER PARTS OF THE EAST BEHIND THIS SYSTEM.  
 
A NORTHEASTERN PACIFIC SYSTEM WILL LIKELY SPREAD RAIN AND HIGHER  
ELEVATION SNOW INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON SATURDAY. THERE IS  
SOME UNCERTAINTY OVER INITIAL INTENSITY, THOUGH OVERALL EXPECT  
MODERATE TOTALS. SUNDAY'S PRECIPITATION WILL LIKELY BE SOMEWHAT  
HEAVIER WHILE MOISTURE BEGINS TO SPREAD FARTHER EASTWARD INTO THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES. RAIN AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW WILL PROGRESS  
EAST/SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE ROCKIES EARLY NEXT WEEK WHILE TAPERING  
OFF OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THE EASTERN PERIPHERY OF ANOTHER  
SYSTEM COULD BEGIN TO INFLUENCE THE REGION BY NEXT TUESDAY BUT WITH  
LOW CONFIDENCE IN DETAILS AT THIS TIME.  
 
THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS WILL BE MOST PERSISTENTLY BELOW  
NORMAL FOR TEMPERATURES DURING THE PERIOD. COLDEST ANOMALIES UP TO  
25-30F BELOW NORMAL FOR HIGHS ARE POSSIBLE OVER THE NORTHERN HIGH  
PLAINS ON FRIDAY AND EXPANDING SOUTHWARD DURING THE WEEKEND.  
DEPARTURE OF THE WEEKEND STORM IN THE EAST AND THE TRAILING UPPER  
TROUGH WILL BRING BELOW NORMAL READINGS EASTWARD EARLY NEXT WEEK,  
WITH HIGHS AT LEAST 10-20F BELOW NORMAL OVER THE GREAT LAKES/OHIO  
VALLEY INTO THE NORTHEAST. AHEAD OF THIS STORM, EXPECT A BRIEF  
SURGE OF WARMER AIR OVER THE EAST SATURDAY INTO SUNDAY. SOME HIGHS  
OVER THE FLORIDA PENINSULA COULD CHALLENGE DAILY RECORDS,  
ESPECIALLY ON SATURDAY. THE NORTHWEST MAY STAY A LITTLE BELOW  
NORMAL FOR MOST OF THE PERIOD, BUT THE REMAINDER OF THE WEST  
SHOULD TREND TOWARD NORMAL BY SUNDAY AND REACH MODESTLY ABOVE  
NORMAL NEXT MONDAY. A COLD FRONT WILL LIKELY CONFINE THE WARMTH TO  
FAR SOUTHERN AREAS BY TUESDAY (AND EXTENDING INTO SOUTHERN TEXAS).  
 
RAUSCH  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
CLICK HERE TO GO TO PREVIOUS BULLETINS.
The Nexlab HPC Page
Main Text Page