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FXUS02 KWBC 120700  
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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
300 AM EDT SAT APR 12 2025  
 
VALID 12Z TUE APR 15 2025 - 12Z SAT APR 19 2025  
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD BEGINS TUESDAY, UPPER TROUGHING IN THE  
GREAT LAKES/OHIO VALLEY AND A COUPLE OF SURFACE COLD FRONTS WILL  
LEAD TO SOME EASTERN U.S. PRECIPITATION, WITH POSSIBLE SNOW IN THE  
HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST IN GENERALLY COOLER  
THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES. MEANWHILE SOUTHERN STREAM UPPER ENERGY  
IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC AND CALIFORNIA COULD PRODUCE SOME LIGHT  
SCATTERED PRECIPITATION IN CALIFORNIA TO THE FOUR CORNERS STATES  
AND THEN SOME MODEST RAIN IN THE CENTRAL PLAINS/MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI  
VALLEY MIDWEEK. FARTHER NORTH, MODEL GUIDANCE HAS SHOWN AMPLE  
SPREAD IN THE EVOLUTION OF NORTHERN STREAM TROUGHING IN  
SOUTHWESTERN CANADA MIDWEEK, WITH SOME MODELS DIVING THE  
TROUGH/EMBEDDED UPPER LOW MORE SOUTH AND SOME SHIFTING IT MORE  
EAST, LEADING TO SIGNIFICANT SENSIBLE WEATHER DIFFERENCES. THIS  
FORECAST TRENDED TOWARD THE TROUGH DEEPENING SOUTHWARD, ALLOWING  
FOR MORE NOTABLE PRECIPITATION IN THE ROCKIES WEDNESDAY-FRIDAY, AND  
SLOWER PROGRESSION OF A COLD FRONT AND ITS BROAD PRECIPITATION  
SHIELD THROUGH THE CENTRAL U.S. THURSDAY TOWARD THE EAST-CENTRAL  
U.S. FRIDAY.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
THE FIRST TROUGH TRACKING THROUGH THE EAST-CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S.  
TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY CONTINUES TO SHOW GOOD MODEL AGREEMENT. INITIAL  
WEAKENING TROUGHING IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TUESDAY AND THE PRIMARY  
UPPER LOW IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC HAVE SOME WEST-EAST SPREAD  
INITIALLY, BUT OVERALL A MULTI-MODEL BLEND WORKED WELL. THUS THE  
MAIN MODEL DIAGNOSTIC CONCERN IS REGARDING THE NEXT NORTHERN STREAM  
UPPER TROUGH AND ITS PLACEMENT BEYOND MIDWEEK. MODELS FROM A DAY  
AGO HEAVILY FAVORED THIS TROUGH SKIRTING EASTWARD, BUT IN THE PAST  
COUPLE OF MODEL CYCLES MORE SPREAD HAS ARISEN. OVERALL, THERE HAS  
BEEN A SLOWER TREND FOR THE TROUGH MOVING EAST IN MODELS AND  
ENSEMBLES. SOME DETERMINISTIC MODELS DIVE ENERGY SOUTHWARD THROUGH  
THE GREAT BASIN OR SO THURSDAY-FRIDAY, ENOUGH TO FORM A CLOSED LOW  
THERE. THESE INCLUDE THE 12Z ECMWF AND CMC, AS WELL AS THE 18Z GFS  
IN A SIGNIFICANT FLIP FROM THE 12Z GFS THAT HAD THE UPPER  
TROUGH/LOW TRACKING EAST LIKE OLDER GUIDANCE. HOWEVER, AI/ML MODELS  
FROM THE 12Z/18Z CYCLE DID NOT SHOW THE TROUGHING DIGGING AS FAR  
WEST AS THIS CLUSTER OF DETERMINISTIC MODELS. THEY GENERALLY SHOWED  
A CENTRAL U.S. TROUGH, WHICH WAS STILL SLOWER WITH THE TROUGH THAN  
SOME PREVIOUS FORECASTS. THIS FORECAST ISSUANCE WAS NOT VERY  
CONFIDENT IN THE SOLUTION PRESENTED BY THE 12Z EC/CMC AND 18Z GFS.  
THE FORECAST BLEND QUICKLY RAMPED UP THE PROPORTION OF ENSEMBLE  
MEANS DAY 5 AND USED THE 18Z GEFS/12Z ECENS MEANS ALONE BY DAYS 6-7  
GIVEN THE LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE CHANGING FORECAST PATTERN. EVEN  
THIS BLEND OF THE ENSEMBLE MEANS WAS A NOTABLE CHANGE FROM THE  
PREVIOUS FORECAST, SLOWING DOWN THE TROUGH AND COLD FRONT AND  
PRODUCING MUCH MORE PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE INTERIOR WEST. NOW THE  
NEWER 00Z MODEL CYCLE HAS COME IN WITH A SIMILAR PATTERN FOR UPPER  
TROUGHING TO DIVE SOUTH THROUGH THE GREAT BASIN OR SO, AND NOW  
SHOWS THE ORIGINALLY EASTERN PACIFIC ENERGY PHASING IN BY LATE WEEK  
TO FORM A SOUTHWEST UPPER LOW. THIS INCLUDES THE 00Z AIFS IN A BIG  
CHANGE FROM ITS 18Z RUN. SO THERE IS MORE CONFIDENCE THAT THIS MUCH  
FARTHER WEST TROUGHING DEVELOPING IS REASONABLE. THUS EVEN THOUGH  
FORECAST CHANGES IN THIS CYCLE WERE NOTABLE, EXPECT MORE IN THE  
NEXT FORECAST. IT APPEARS THE ENERGY THAT WILL EVENTUALLY FORM THIS  
TROUGH/UPPER LOW IS CURRENTLY SPINNING OVER THE BERING SEA AND  
VICINITY, SO HOPEFULLY AS IT TRACKS INTO AREAS WITH MORE OBSERVED  
DATA FOR BETTER MODEL INITIALIZATION SOON AND CONTINUED STABILITY  
IN THE FORECAST.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
A SURFACE LOW TRACKING THROUGH SOUTHEASTERN CANADA TUESDAY AND ITS  
TRAILING COLD FRONT WILL SUPPORT SOME PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE  
GREAT LAKES TO EASTERN SEABOARD TUESDAY AND LINGERING ACROSS THE  
INTERIOR NORTHEAST WEDNESDAY. ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE LOW,  
TEMPERATURES COULD BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW IN HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF  
THE ADIRONDACKS AND GREEN AND WHITE MOUNTAINS INTO TUESDAY. GUSTY  
WINDS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE.  
 
A WEAKENING UPPER LOW REACHING THE SOUTHWEST BY TUESDAY MAY  
PRODUCE SOME VERY SCATTERED AND LIGHT PRECIPITATION. THEN AS  
SURFACE LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPS IN THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS AND MOVES  
EAST, RAIN IS FORECAST TO SPREAD ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS TO  
MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY FOR MIDWEEK. RECENT MODELS SHOW THIS RAIN  
REMAINING PRETTY MODEST, SO NO EXCESSIVE RAINFALL AREAS ARE IN  
PLACE FOR THE DAY 4-5 (TUESDAY/WEDNESDAY) EROS. THEN FARTHER NORTH,  
THIS FORECAST ISSUANCE HAS TRENDED TOWARD SHOWING GREATER COVERAGE  
OF RAIN AND HIGHER ELEVATION SNOW OVER PARTS OF THE WEST/ROCKIES  
UNDER THE DIGGING UPPER TROUGH. PRECIPITATION LOOKS TO SPREAD FROM  
THE NORTHERN ROCKIES/HIGH PLAINS WEDNESDAY A BIT SOUTH CENTERED  
OVER WYOMING THURSDAY AND INTO COLORADO FRIDAY. POSSIBLE  
INTERACTION WITH THE SOUTHERN STREAM TROUGH TRACKING EAST FROM THE  
EASTERN PACIFIC COULD SUPPORT PRECIPITATION ACROSS PARTS OF  
CALIFORNIA/GREAT BASIN/SOUTHWEST. A LOW PRESSURE/FRONTAL SYSTEM  
TRACKING EASTWARD ALONG WITH SOME UPPER-LEVEL SUPPORT COULD LEAD TO  
RAIN AND PERHAPS FAR NORTHERN TIER SNOW IN THE MIDWEST THURSDAY  
AND SHIFTING INTO THE GREAT LAKES/OHIO VALLEY AND NORTHEAST ON  
FRIDAY. THE FRONTAL SYSTEM AND PRECIPITATION HAVE TRENDED SLOWER  
THAN THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. THEN DEPENDING ON IF AND HOW  
TROUGHING/AN UPPER LOW DEVELOPS OVER THE SOUTHWEST LATE WEEK,  
MOISTURE STREAMING INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS COULD ALLOW FOR  
INCREASING RAIN CHANCES THERE. OVERALL, RECOMMEND CONTINUING TO  
MONITOR FORECAST UPDATES UNTIL THE FORECAST STABILIZES.  
 
INITIAL MEAN RIDGING ALOFT IN THE WEST WILL ALLOW FOR ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES THERE, SPREADING INTO THE PLAINS BY MIDWEEK.  
GENERALLY TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST TO BE 10-20 DEGREES ABOVE  
NORMAL, ALLOWING FOR HIGHS IN THE 90S IN THE DESERT SOUTHWEST AND  
THEN ACROSS MUCH OF TEXAS BY THURSDAY. COOLER THAN AVERAGE  
TEMPERATURES ARE LIKELY IN THE GREAT LAKES AND OHIO VALLEY TUESDAY  
INTO THE EASTERN U.S. WEDNESDAY AND POSSIBLY INTO THURSDAY. LOWS  
SHOULD GENERALLY BE 5-10F BELOW AVERAGE AND HIGHS AROUND 10-15F  
BELOW AVERAGE. AFTER THAT, THE TEMPERATURE FORECAST BECOMES MORE  
UNCERTAIN DEPENDENT ON THE UPPER PATTERN. THE INTERIOR WEST LOOKS  
TO GRADUALLY COOL INTO LATE WEEK, THOUGH THE NORTHWEST COULD STAY A  
BIT ABOVE AVERAGE WITH POSSIBLE UPPER RIDGING POKING IN. THE  
SOUTHEASTERN U.S. MAY WARM TO ABOVE NORMAL LATE WEEK.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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