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FOUS30 KWBC 292021  
QPFERD  
 
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
421 PM EDT TUE APR 29 2025  
 
DAY 1  
VALID 16Z TUE APR 29 2025 - 12Z WED APR 30 2025  
 
...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS...  
   
..SOUTHERN PLAINS
 
 
16Z UPDATE: NO MAJOR CHANGE TO THE REASONING OUTLINED BELOW, BUT  
THERE WAS AN OVERALL TREND TO SHIFT RISK AREAS SOUTHWARD A BIT.  
ALTHOUGH HI-RES MODELS (EVEN THE VERY RECENT 12Z RUNS) ARE  
STRUGGLING TO CAPTURE ONGOING CONVECTION IN THE REGION, THEY ALL DO  
CONSISTENTLY SHOW ORGANIZED CONVECTION THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING  
GENERATING FAIRLY STRONG COLD POOLS, WHICH IN TURN GRADUALLY PUSHES  
THE EFFECTIVE FRONT SOUTH INTO N TX BY THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT.  
THIS IS SUPPORTED BY RAP ANALYSIS SHOWING HIGHER DCAPE VALUES  
ACROSS PORTIONS OF N TX, AS WELL AS THE 12Z FWD SOUNDING WHICH  
REVEALED A LAYER OF FAIRLY DRY AIR JUST ABOVE THE BOUNDARY LAYER.  
OF THE AVAILABLE HI-RES MODELS, RECENT RUNS OF THE RRFS SEEM TO  
BEST REPRESENT THE FORWARD PROPAGATING BOW ECHO IN S MO AND  
ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN SW OK. THEREFORE, THE TWEAKS TO THE  
POSITIONING OF THE RISK AREAS LEVERAGED THE RRFS A BIT MORE,  
ALTHOUGH SOME DEFERENCE WAS GIVEN TO OTHER GUIDANCE SOURCES AS  
WELL. EVEN MODELS THAT AREN'T HANDLING ONGOING CONVECTION VERY WELL  
STILL INDICATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF COLD POOLS, AND THE TENDENCY FOR  
THE AXIS OF ACTIVE CONVECTION TO SINK SOUTH WITH TIME. THIS LENDS  
SOME CONFIDENCE TO THE OVERALL EXPECTATIONS DESCRIBED HERE. THE  
SOUTHWARD PROGRESSION OF THE EFFECTIVE FRONT SEEMS TO STALL  
OVERNIGHT, WHICH MAY LEAD TO A RAINFALL MAX IN N TX, OR AT LEAST  
VERY CLOSE TO THE RED RIVER.  
 
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION: A REPETITIVE SCHEME OF SUCCESSIVE CONVECTIVE  
OUTPUTS ACROSS PORTIONS OF WEST TX THROUGH OKLAHOMA WILL RESULT IN  
SIGNIFICANT FLASH FLOODING FOR A LARGE PORTION OF THE ABOVE AREAS.  
THE COMBINATION OF SEVERAL MID-LEVEL IMPULSES EJECTING NORTHEAST  
WITHIN A LARGE SCALE DIFFLUENT PATTERN WILL INTERACT WITH A QUASI-  
STATIONARY FRONT ALIGNED FROM THE WESTERN ROLLING PLAINS OF TX UP  
TOWARDS THE RED RIVER BASIN MAINLY WEST OF I-35. FAVORABLE MID-  
LEVEL ASCENT WILL ALLOW FOR WAVES OF CONVECTIVE INITIATION  
BEGINNING LATE-MORNING AND AFTERNOON TUESDAY WITH A SECONDARY PULSE  
AROUND 00Z WEDNESDAY WITH A FINAL PULSE FORECAST AFTER 06Z AS THE  
MEAN TROUGH FINALLY STARTS PIVOTING EAST OUT OF THE SOUTHWESTERN  
CONUS. INSTABILITY WITHIN THE CONFINES OF WEST TX UP TO THE RED  
RIVER WILL ALLOW FOR RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF CONVECTIVE CLUSTERS WITH  
SOME SUPERCELLULAR MODES PLAUSIBLE PRIOR TO NIGHTFALL, EVENTUALLY  
MERGING INTO A MORE MULTI-CELLULAR SCHEME WITH BACKBUILDING FAVORED  
WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE FRONT DENOTED PRETTY WELL WITHIN THE  
THETA_E GRADIENT OUTPUT IN EACH DETERMINISTIC. ALL CAMS ARE WELL  
SUPPORTIVE OF THE 3-WAVE CONVECTIVE EVOLUTION WITH HEAVY RAINFALL  
SITUATED ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS NEAR THE EASTERN PERMIAN  
BASIN WITH A GENERAL QPF MAXIMA ALIGNED SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST  
ACROSS THE NORTHERN EXTENSION OF THE ROLLING PLAINS IN TX, UP  
THROUGH THE RED RIVER AND INTO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE OKC  
METRO. THIS AREA HAS BEEN THE BENEFACTOR OF MULTIPLE CONVECTIVE  
EPISODES ALREADY, LEADING TO FLASH FLOODING WITHIN THE CORRIDOR  
EXTENDING FROM LAWTON DOWN TO THE RED RIVER. THIS AREA WILL BE THE  
MOST PRIMED LOCATION FOR NOT ONLY WIDESPREAD FLASH FLOODING, BUT  
SIGNIFICANT LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOOD PROSPECTS DUE TO THE WELL  
ABOVE NORMAL SOIL MOISTURE ANOMALIES LIKELY CURBING ANY POTENTIAL  
FOR RAINFALL TO SOAK INTO THE TOP SOIL LAYER.  
 
LATEST 00Z HREF PROBABILITY FIELDS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY INDICATIVE OF  
THE THREAT WITH ONE OF THE MORE ROBUST INDICATIONS OCCURRING  
WITHIN THE 6-HR FFG EXCEEDANCE PROBABILITY MARKER RUNNING BETWEEN  
70-90% ACROSS THE AREA EXTENDING FROM FOARD COUNTY IN TX UP TO  
WESTERN CLEVELAND COUNTY IN OK. NEIGHBORHOOD PROBABILITIES OF >5"  
TOTAL RAINFALL ARE RUNNING BETWEEN 50-80% IN THE SAME LOCATION WITH  
>8" BETWEEN 20-30% ACROSS SOUTHWEST OK BETWEEN LAWTON TO THE RED  
RIVER. NEIGHBORHOOD PROBS FOR >3" ARE SIGNIFICANT ACROSS MUCH OF OK  
BACK INTO NORTH TX WITH THE SOUTHWEST EXTENSION BACK INTO THE  
SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE LUB CWA. CONSIDERING THE NASA SPORT SOIL  
MOISTURE PERCENTILES RUNNING BETWEEN 70-99% FOR THE 0-40CM LAYER  
ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA ABOVE, THE PROPENSITY FOR FLOODING, EVEN IN  
RURAL ZONES WILL BE HIGHER THAN NORMAL. GIVEN EXPECTED RATES  
BETWEEN 1-2"/HR DURING PEAK STORM CYCLES AND THE EXPECTATION FOR  
>3" OF RAINFALL...THE THREAT WILL BE OF THE HIGHER MAGNITUDE IN  
TERMS OF IMPACT PROSPECTS. THE PREVIOUS MDT RISK INHERITED WAS NOT  
ONLY MAINTAINED, BUT EXPANDED A BIT FURTHER SOUTHWEST TO ALIGN WITH  
THE HIGHER PROBABILITIES WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD >5" POTENTIAL AND  
THE ELEVATED HREF EAS >2" PROBABILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DEPICTED. A  
HIGH-END MDT RISK IS FORECAST ACROSS THE RED RIVER BASIN WEST OF  
WICHITA FALLS UP INTO THE SOUTHERN FRINGES OF THE OKC METRO,  
INCLUDING THE TOWN OF NORMAN. LOWER END PROBABILITIES FOR FLASH  
FLOODING WILL EXIST ACROSS AREAS OF THE EASTERN PERMIAN BASIN OUT  
THROUGH THE CONCHO VALLEY AS WELL AS ACROSS MUCH OF OKLAHOMA NOT  
INCLUDED IN THE MDT.  
   
..MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS
 
 
16Z UPDATE: NO MAJOR CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE RISK AREAS HERE.  
 
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION: MID-LEVEL IMPULSES THAT EJECT OUT OF THE  
SOUTHERN PLAINS WILL CONTINUE TO PRESS NORTHEAST TOWARDS THE  
MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS WITH A PROGRESSIVE COLD FRONT MOVING  
SOUTHEAST OUT OF THE MIDWEST DURING THE SAME TIME FRAME. AFTERNOON  
DESTABILIZATION COUPLED WITH THE FAVORABLE ADDITION OF MID-LEVEL  
FORCING AND SURFACE FRONTOGENESIS WILL LEAD TO SCATTERED CONVECTIVE  
PULSES ACROSS THE REGION WITH SOME ORGANIZED ELEMENTS FOCUSED  
WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE FRONT AND UNDER THE SHORTWAVE  
PROPAGATION. SOILS REMAIN MOIST ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION EXTENDING  
FROM MO THROUGH THE OHIO RIVER BASIN WITH AN EASTERN EXTENSION TO  
THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS AND WESTERN PA HIGHLANDS. PWAT ANOMALIES  
ON THE ORDER OF +1 TO AS HIGH AS +2.5 DEVIATIONS CEMENTS A  
FAVORABLE DEEP MOIST ENVIRONMENT CONDUCIVE FOR HEAVY RAINFALL  
PROSPECTS WITHIN ANY CONVECTIVE SCHEME. THE GREATEST CONCENTRATION  
OF HEAVY RAIN WILL LIKELY BE BACK OVER SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL MO  
TOWARDS THE 3 RIVER CONFLUENCE ZONE NEAR KY/MO/IN/IL. HREF PROBS  
FOR >1" ARE VERY HIGH (70-90+%) ACROSS MUCH OF THE MISSISSIPPI AND  
OHIO VALLEY AREAS WITH >2" PROBS RELATIVELY HIGH (50-70%) IN-OF THE  
OHIO RIVER BASIN OVER SOUTHERN IL THROUGH MUCH OF EASTERN KY. THE  
COMBINATION OF CONVECTION OVER AREAS THAT ARE STILL IN RECOVERY  
FROM PREVIOUS RAINFALL EPISODES AND COMPLEX TERRAIN WILL CREATE A  
THREAT FOR ISOLATED TO PERHAPS SCATTERED FLASH FLOOD INSTANCES OVER  
A LARGE AREA DURING THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS TUESDAY. A  
SLGT RISK REMAINS FIRMLY IN PLACE ACROSS MUCH OF MO ALONG AND SOUTH  
OF I-70 UNTIL THE 3 RIVER CONFLUENCE ZONE REFERENCED ABOVE. A MRGL  
RISK ENCOMPASSES ALL OTHER AREAS EAST THROUGH WESTERN PA AND EVEN  
THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF NY STATE.  
 
LAMERS/KLEEBAUER  
 
DAY 2  
VALID 12Z WED APR 30 2025 - 12Z THU MAY 01 2025  
 
...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF  
SOUTH-CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST OKLAHOMA, NORTH TEXAS, AND WESTERN  
ARKANSAS...  
 
THE PRIMARY CHANGE FOR THIS UPDATED ERO FOR WEDNESDAY WAS TO  
RECENTER THE MODERATE RISK FURTHER SOUTH (APPROX. 50 MI). THIS WAS  
DUE TO A CORRESPONDING SHIFT IN GUIDANCE, ESPECIALLY HI-RES  
GUIDANCE, BUT ALSO THE UKMET, CMC, AND ECMWF AIFS. IT ALSO FITS  
WITH THE UPDATED EXPECTATIONS FOR THE CURRENT DAY 1 PERIOD, AS  
GUIDANCE HAS SIGNALED THE POTENTIAL FOR RELATIVELY STRONG COLD  
POOLS REINFORCING THE EFFECTIVE FRONT AND GRADUALLY PUSHING IT  
FURTHER SOUTH. THIS WOULD CENTER IT MORE SQUARELY NEAR THE RED  
RIVER (OK-TX BORDER REGION) OR PERHAPS FULLY INTO N TX. THERE IS  
STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXACT CONVECTIVE  
EVOLUTION OVER THE 12-18 HOURS IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THE START OF  
THE DAY 2 PERIOD, SO THE MODERATE RISK AND SLIGHT RISK WERE KEPT  
FAIRLY BROAD TO ACCOUNT FOR DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. NEVERTHELESS,  
THERE WAS A CLEAR ENOUGH SHIFT IN THE GUIDANCE TO WARRANT AN  
ADJUSTMENT IN THE OVERALL RISK CONTOURS.  
 
A SIGNIFICANT FLASH FLOODING EVENT COULD BE ONGOING AT THE START OF  
THE PERIOD (~12Z WEDNESDAY) OVER WESTERN NORTH TEXAS AND/OR SOUTH-  
CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST OKLAHOMA. LATE TONIGHT THE SOUTHWARD DRIFT OF  
THE EFFECTIVE FRONT AND THE ASSOCIATED ZONE OF ACTIVE CONVECTION  
MAY BEGIN TO SLOW OR STALL AS THE LOW-LEVEL JET (LLJ) BEGINS TO  
RAMP UP CONSIDERABLY OVER TEXAS. WHERE THE NOSE OF THE LLJ SETS UP  
RELATIVE TO ONGOING CONVECTION WILL GO A LONG WAY TO DETERMINING  
THE PRIMARY AREA OF CONCERN FOR WEDNESDAY. MOST HI-RES MODELS SHOW  
THE CONVECTIVE CLUSTER(S) PROPAGATING EAST THROUGH THE MORNING  
TOWARD AR AND N LA, WITH RENEWED DEVELOPMENT UPSTREAM OVER N TX BY  
THE AFTERNOON AND ANOTHER TRAINING AND BACKBUILDING CONFIGURATION.  
 
THIS SAME GUIDANCE GENERALLY SUPPORTS THE IDEA OF A 24-HOUR  
RAINFALL MAXIMUM IN EXCESS OF 7 INCHES SOMEWHERE IN THE NEW  
MODERATE RISK AREA, BUT THERE IS LINGERING UNCERTAINTY AS TO  
PRECISELY WHERE THAT WILL OCCUR. ALTHOUGH THE PROBABILITY IS  
CURRENTLY HIGHEST IN THE VICINITY OF THE RED RIVER NEAR WHERE SE OK  
BORDERS N TX, IT'S CONCEIVABLE IT COULD OCCUR CLOSER TO OR INSIDE  
THE DFW METRO AREA. THE METRO AREA IS NOW FULLY IN THE MODERATE  
RISK AREA WITH THIS LATEST UPDATE.  
 
SOME SIGNIFICANT FLASH FLOODING WILL BE POSSIBLE AS MUCH OF THE  
RAIN WILL LIKELY FALL IN 6-12 HOURS AND THE HIGH END AMOUNTS  
PRODUCED BY SOME OF THE GUIDANCE WOULD APPROACH OR EXCEED A 100  
YEAR ARI FOR THOSE DURATIONS. NEIGHBORHOOD PROBABILITIES OF  
100 YEAR ARI EXCEEDANCE ARE NOT PARTICULARLY HIGH, REFLECTING BOTH  
THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE EXACT PLACEMENT OF THE HEAVIEST AMOUNTS, AND  
THAT AMOUNTS WELL IN EXCESS OF THOSE THRESHOLDS ARE NOT CURRENTLY  
SUPPORTED BY GUIDANCE. SIGNIFICANT AND LIFE-THREATENING FLASH  
FLOODING WOULD BE MOST LIKELY IN TWO SCENARIOS:  
 
(1) IN WESTERN NORTH TEXAS OR SOUTH-CENTRAL OKLAHOMA AT THE  
BEGINNING OF THE PERIOD, AS A CONTINUATION FROM THE PREVIOUS NIGHT.  
THESE AREAS HAVE BEEN QUITE WET OVER THE PAST WEEK OR SO, SO THERE  
IS EXISTING VULNERABILITY TO EXTREME RAINFALL. (THIS IS MORE  
LIKELY.)  
 
(2) IN THE DALLAS-FT. WORTH METRO AREA, AS THE RAINFALL IN QUESTION  
WOULD CAUSE SERIOUS ISSUES IN A HIGHLY URBANIZED AREA. (THIS IS  
ALSO POSSIBLE, BUT NOT CERTAIN, AND HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE EXACT  
CONVECTIVE EVOLUTION.)  
 
FURTHER NORTH, A BROAD MARGINAL AND SLIGHT RISK AREA WAS MAINTAINED  
FOR THE MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND CENTRAL PLAINS. THERE IS SOME  
SIGNAL FOR ORGANIZED CONVECTION AND LOCALIZED HEAVY RAINFALL,  
INCLUDING A SCATTERING OF LOW PROBABILITIES OF FFG EXCEEDANCE, BUT  
CONFIDENCE IN ANY SPECIFIC SCENARIO IS LACKING.  
 
LAMERS  
 
DAY 3  
VALID 12Z THU MAY 01 2025 - 12Z FRI MAY 02 2025  
 
...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER A BROAD AREA  
FROM THE GREAT LAKES TO MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TO WESTERN GULF  
COAST...  
 
AN EXPANSIVE PLUME OF INSTABILITY IS EXPECTED TO SUPPORT SCATTERED  
TO NUMEROUS AREAS OF THUNDERSTORMS DURING THE DAY 3 PERIOD AHEAD OF  
A SURFACE LOW AND TRAILING COLD FRONT. MACHINE LEARNING  
PROBABILITIES FROM COLORADO STATE SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A BROAD  
MARGINAL RISK; THIS IS WHAT WAS INHERITED AND IT WAS GENERALLY  
MAINTAINED. THE BIGGEST CHANGE WAS TO EXTEND THE AREA SOUTHWEST  
THROUGH PORTIONS OF LOUISIANA AND SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST TEXAS.  
CONFIDENCE IN SPECIFICS IS LOW, AND THE OVERALL FLASH FLOOD THREAT  
SHOULD BE LIMITED BY THE FAIRLY PROGRESSIVE NATURE OF THE  
CONVECTION. PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES ARE MORE ANOMALOUS IN THE  
GREAT LAKES REGION (ABOVE THE 90TH PERCENTILE; ABOVE 1.3 INCHES),  
BUT THAT IS ALSO WHERE THUNDERSTORMS SHOULD BE MOVING THE FASTEST.  
MEANWHILE, AVAILABLE MOISTURE WILL BE LESS ANOMALOUS FURTHER SOUTH,  
IN TX AND LA, BUT THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE MOVING SLOWER. THEREFORE,  
HEAVY RAINFALL INGREDIENTS WILL GENERALLY BE OFFSET ACROSS THE  
WHOLE REGION. HI-RES MODELS THAT EXTEND OUT BEYOND 48 HOURS SHOW  
MORE SIGNIFICANT LOCALIZED RAINFALL MAXIMA IN TX AND LA, WHICH  
MAKES SENSE GIVEN STRONGER INSTABILITY AND SLOWER OVERALL STORM  
MOTIONS. THIS MAY BE WHERE A TARGETED UPGRADE TO A SLIGHT RISK IS  
EVENTUALLY NEEDED.  
 
LAMERS  
 
DAY 1 THREAT AREA:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/94EPOINTS.TXT  
DAY 2 THREAT AREA:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/98EPOINTS.TXT  
DAY 3 THREAT AREA:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/99EPOINTS.TXT  
 
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