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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT 25-41  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HEADQUARTERS SILVER SPRING, MD  
845 AM EDT THU JUN 26 2025  
 
TO: SUBSCRIBERS:  
NOAA WEATHER WIRE SERVICE  
EMERGENCY MANAGERS WEATHER INFORMATION NETWORK  
NOAAPORT  
OTHER NWS PARTNERS, USERS AND EMPLOYEES  
 
FROM: RICHARD BANDY  
ACTING DIRECTOR  
NCEP/ENVIRONMENTAL MODELING CENTER  
 
SUBJECT: SOLICITING COMMENTS ON PROPOSED DISCONTINUATION OF THE  
NORTH AMERICAN MESOSCALE (NAM) MODEL AND OTHER REGIONAL MODELING  
SYSTEMS TO BE REPLACED BY THE RAPID REFRESH FORECAST SYSTEM  
(RRFS) THROUGH JULY 26, 2025.  
 
THE ENVIRONMENTAL MODELING CENTER (EMC) AT THE NATIONAL CENTERS  
FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PREDICTION (NCEP) IS WORKING TOWARDS REPLACING  
THE NORTH AMERICAN MESOSCALE (NAM) MODEL, THE HIGH RESOLUTION  
WINDOW (HIRESW) ASIDE FROM THE GUAM DOMAIN, THE HIGH RESOLUTION  
ENSEMBLE FORECAST (HREF) AND THE NORTH AMERICAN RAPID REFRESH  
ENSEMBLE (NARRE) SYSTEMS WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RAPID  
REFRESH FORECAST SYSTEM (RRFS) IN EARLY 2026. THE NWS IS  
SEEKING COMMENTS ON THIS PROPOSED CHANGE THROUGH JULY 26, 2025.  
 
THIS TRANSITION TO RRFS WOULD PROVIDE AN HOURLY UPDATING  
MODELING SYSTEM OVER A NORTH AMERICA REGION AT 3 KM HORIZONTAL  
GRID SPACING, WHICH, COMBINED WITH THE MODEL RETIREMENTS, WOULD  
GREATLY UNIFY AND SIMPLIFY THE “CONVECTIVE SCALE” (APPROXIMATELY  
3 KM GRID SPACING) REGIONAL MODELS WITHIN THE NWS OPERATIONAL  
MODELING SUITE.  
 
AS A DETERMINISTIC SYSTEM RUNNING TO 84 H, THE RRFS WOULD FULLY  
RETIRE THE NAM, AND NEARLY FULLY RETIRE THE HIRESW (ASIDE FROM  
THE GUAM DOMAIN). AS AN ENSEMBLE FORECAST SYSTEM, THE RRFS  
ENSEMBLE FORECAST SYSTEM (REFS) WOULD FULLY RETIRE THE HREF AND  
NARRE SYSTEMS.  
 
THE DETERMINISTIC RRFS GENERATES FULL DOMAIN OUTPUT AT 3 KM GRID  
SPACING, AND SUBSET GRID OUTPUT OVER THE CONTIGUOUS UNITED  
STATES (CONUS) AND ALASKA (AK) (AT 3 KM GRID SPACING), AND  
HAWAII (HI) AND PUERTO RICO (PR) (AT 2.5 KM GRID SPACING). THE  
RRFS WILL ALSO PROVIDE OUTPUT FROM A SEPARATE 1.5 KM RRFS FIRE  
WEATHER RUN, WITH OUTPUT PROVIDED OVER A 5 X 5 DEGREE ROTATED  
LATITUDE LONGITUDE REGION. DETAILS OF THE RRFS OUTPUT GRIDS ARE  
AVAILABLE IN  
HTTPS://WWW.EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MMB/MPYLE/RRFS_INFO/RRFS_GRIDS.TXT  
 
RELATIVE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN RRFS OUTPUT PRODUCTS AND THE  
PROPOSED-TO-BE-RETIRED SYSTEM PRODUCTS WILL BE DISCUSSED  
INDIVIDUALLY BY THE MODELING SYSTEM PROPOSED FOR RETIREMENT.  
 
FOR THE PROPOSED RETIREMENT OF THE NAM:  
 
BOTH THE 12 KM PARENT DOMAIN AND THE 3 KM NESTED DOMAINS (CONUS,  
AK, HI, PR) WOULD BE TERMINATED. THE NAM FIRE WEATHER NEST WOULD  
ALSO CEASE TO RUN.  
 
LIST OF NAM OUTPUT GRIDS BEING RETIRED (NOT BEING UTILIZED BY  
THE RRFS):  
HTTPS://WWW.EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MMB/MPYLE/RRFS_INFO/NAM_RETIREDGRI  
DS.TXT  
 
LIST OF NAM NEST OUTPUT GRIDS THAT WILL NOT BE RETIRED (BEING  
UTILIZED BY RRFS):  
HTTPS://WWW.EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MMB/MPYLE/RRFS_INFO/NAMNEST_GRIDS.  
TXT  
 
LIST OF NAM PRODUCTS NOT GENERATED BY THE RRFS AND DISCONTINUED:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MMB/MPYLE/RRFS_INFO/NAM_RETIREMENT  
S.TXT  
 
FOR THE PROPOSED RETIREMENT OF THE HIRESW:  
 
THE GUAM DOMAIN OF HIRESW WILL CONTINUE TO RUN AS IN CURRENT  
OPERATIONS.  
 
HIRESW DOMAINS ENCOMPASSED BY THE RRFS DOMAIN (CONUS, AK, HI,  
PR) WILL BE DISCONTINUED.  
 
LIST OF HIRESW OUTPUT GRIDS BEING RETIRED (NOT BEING PRODUCED BY  
THE RRFS):  
HTTPS://WWW.EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MMB/MPYLE/RRFS_INFO/HIRESW_GRIDS.T  
XT  
 
LIST OF HIRESW PRODUCTS NOT GENERATED WITHIN RRFS AND  
DISCONTINUED:  
HTTPS://WWW.EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MMB/MPYLE/RRFS_INFO/HIRESW_RETIREM  
ENTS.TXT  
 
PRODUCTS PRODUCED BY THE HIRESW, BUT WHICH WILL BE GENERATED BY  
THE SMARTINIT SYSTEM PROCESSING RRFS OUTPUT RATHER THAN DIRECTLY  
GENERATED BY THE RRFS:  
HTTPS://WWW.EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MMB/MPYLE/RRFS_INFO/SMARTINIT_PROD  
UCTS.TXT  
 
NEW PRODUCTS IN DETERMINISTIC RRFS NOT GENERATED BY NAM OR  
HIRESW, AND NOT DESCRIBED IN PRODUCT RETIREMENT/CHANGES TO  
EITHER SYSTEM EARLIER:  
HTTPS://WWW.EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MMB/MPYLE/RRFS_INFO/RRFS_NEWITEMS.  
TXT  
 
PRODUCTS IN THE RRFS “SUBH” OUTPUT FILE AT 15 MINUTE INTERVALS  
FROM 15 MINUTES INTO THE FORECAST TO 18 HOURS INTO THE FORECAST:  
HTTPS://WWW.EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MMB/MPYLE/RRFS_INFO/RRFS_15MIN.TXT  
 
FOR THE PROPOSED RETIREMENT OF THE HREF:  
 
THE ENTIRE HREF SYSTEM WOULD BE REPLACED BY RRFS ENSEMBLE  
FORECAST SYSTEM (REFS) PRODUCTS COVERING CONUS, AK, HI, AND PR.  
 
LIST OF HREF OUTPUT GRIDS BEING RETIRED DUE TO CHANGE IN GRID  
SPACING AND GEOGRAPHIC COVERAGE:  
HTTPS://WWW.EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MMB/MPYLE/RRFS_INFO/HREF_GRIDS.TXT  
 
CHANGES IN TIMING:  
- THE REFS GENERATES PRODUCTS TO 60 H, WHILE HREF ONLY MAKES  
FORECASTS TO 48 H  
- WHILE HREF GENERATES PRODUCTS TWICE DAILY FOR NON-CONUS  
DOMAINS (AK & PR AT 06Z/18Z, AND HI AT 00Z/12Z), REFS PRODUCTS  
WILL BE GENERATED AT 00Z/06Z/12Z/18Z FOR ALL REGIONS  
 
HREF TO REFS PRODUCT CHANGES BY OUTPUT FILE TYPE:  
HTTPS://WWW.EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MMB/MPYLE/RRFS_INFO/HREF_PRODUCT_C  
HANGES.TXT  
 
FOR THE PROPOSED RETIREMENT OF THE NORTH AMERICAN RAPID REFRESH  
ENSEMBLE (NARRE):  
 
THE ENTIRE SYSTEM WOULD BE TERMINATED AND REPLACED BY REFS  
PRODUCTS COVERING CONUS, AK, HI, AND PR. THE OUTPUT FROM THE  
REFS SYSTEM WILL BE ON THE SAME SUBSET GRIDS PRODUCED BY THE  
RRFS (CONUS 3 KM, AK 3 KM, HI 2.5 KM, PR 2.5 KM).  
 
NARRE OUTPUT GENERATED ON GRID 130 (CONUS 13 KM) AND GRID 242  
(AK 11.25 KM) WILL BE RETIRED.  
 
CHANGES IN TIMING:  
WHILE NARRE GENERATES HOURLY UPDATED ENSEMBLE PRODUCTS EXTENDING  
TO 12 H, THE REFS GENERATES PRODUCTS TO 60 H, BUT ONLY UPDATES  
EVERY 6 H.  
 
NARRE PRODUCTS DEFINED DIFFERENTLY WITHIN REFS OR RETIRED DUE TO  
NOT BEING GENERATED BY REFS:  
HTTPS://WWW.EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MMB/MPYLE/RRFS_INFO/NARRE_REPLACEM  
ENT.TXT  
 
IN ADDITION, ALL LEGACY SYSTEM VERIFICATION GRAPHICS WILL BE  
REMOVED FROM THE FOLLOWING WEBSITE:  
HTTPS://EMC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/USERS/VERIFICATION/REGIONAL/  
 
A NEW RRFS VERIFICATION WEBSITE WILL BE CREATED AND AVAILABLE  
WHEN THE RRFS IS OFFICIALLY IMPLEMENTED INTO OPERATIONS.  
 
PLEASE SUBMIT COMMENTS REGARDING THE PROPOSAL TO DISCONTINUE  
THESE PRODUCTS TO:  
 
EMAIL: RRFS.FEEDBACK@NOAA.GOV  
GOOGLE FORM: SOLICITING COMMENTS ON THE RAPID REFRESH FORECAST  
SYSTEM REPLACING LEGACY SYSTEMS  
 
NATIONAL PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENTS ARE ONLINE AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WEATHER.GOV/NOTIFICATION/  
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