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FXUS02 KWBC 020756  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
356 AM EDT TUE SEP 2 2025  
 
VALID 12Z FRI SEP 05 2025 - 12Z TUE SEP 09 2025  
 
   
..OVERVIEW
 
 
AN AMPLIFIED UPPER PATTERN WILL BE IN PLACE AS THE MEDIUM RANGE  
PERIOD BEGINS FRIDAY, WITH AN UPPER LOW OVER ONTARIO ANCHORING  
TROUGHING ACROSS A GOOD PORTION OF THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S. AND  
ALLOWING FOR BELOW AVERAGE TEMPERATURES BEHIND MULTIPLE COLD  
FRONTS. ROUNDS OF SHOWERS AND STORMS ARE POSSIBLE WITH THESE COLD  
FRONTS ON THE LEADING EDGE OF THE TROUGH ACROSS THE  
SOUTHERN/CENTRAL PLAINS INTO THE NORTHEAST. LINGERING RIDGING  
ACROSS THE INTERIOR WEST COULD CONTINUE TO BRING ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES TO THE NORTHWEST BEFORE A LIKELY COOLING TREND BY THE  
WEEKEND. MONSOONAL/TROPICAL MOISTURE INFLUENCED BY TROPICAL  
DEPRESSION TWELVE-E IS FORECAST TO COME INTO MUCH OF THE WEST LATE  
THIS WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND FOR POSSIBLY WIDESPREAD SHOWERS THAT  
COULD CAUSE LOCALIZED FLASH FLOODING. MOISTURE GENERALLY IS  
FORECAST TO PUSH EAST INTO THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS EARLY NEXT  
WEEK, BUT DETAILS WILL DEPEND ON THE EVENTUAL TRACK OF T.D.  
TWELVE-E AS WELL AS OTHER FEATURES LIKE SHORTWAVES IN THE VICINITY.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
MODEL GUIDANCE STARTS THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD IN GOOD AGREEMENT  
WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED UPPER LOW/TROUGH, WITH TYPICAL SPREAD IN  
SHORTWAVES ROUNDING THE TROUGH THAT COULD AFFECT FRONTAL POSITIONS  
AND QPF OVER THE WEEKEND. A COMPLICATING FACTOR ARISES IN THE  
FORECAST WITH THE TRACK OF T.D. TWELVE-E AND ITS RESULTING EFFECTS  
ON THE PATTERN. GFS RUNS HAVE SHOWN THE TROPICAL SYSTEM TAKE A  
NORTHEASTERLY TURN INTO BAJA CALIFORNIA WITH REMNANT ENERGY  
CONTINUING OVER NORTHERN MEXICO INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS.  
MEANWHILE, NON-NCEP GUIDANCE HAS TENDED TO FAVOR A MORE WESTERN  
TRACK, INCLUDING THE 12Z EC AND CMC THAT LINGERED THE TROPICAL  
SYSTEM JUST OFFSHORE BAJA WHILE WEAKENING, AND THE NEWER 00Z EC/CMC  
THAT TAKE THE SYSTEM WESTWARD AWAY FROM BAJA. ENSEMBLE MEMBERS  
FROM DYNAMICAL AND AI-BASED MODELS SHOW SPREAD WITH SOME MEMBERS  
MOVING NORTHEAST AND SOME MOVING NORTHWEST OR WEST, SO THIS DOES  
NOT YIELD CONFIDENCE IN LEANING TOWARD ONE SOLUTION OR ANOTHER.  
RECENT NHC FORECAST TRACKS HAVE SHOWN AN IN BETWEEN SOLUTION WHERE  
THE SYSTEM IS SLOWER TO CURVE NORTHEAST THAN THE GFS, BUT IT DOES  
CURVE AND IMPACT BAJA. IT SEEMS THAT REGARDLESS SOME TROUGHING WILL  
MAKE ITS WAY INTO THE SOUTH-CENTRAL U.S. THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY  
NEXT WEEK, BUT THE TROPICAL SYSTEM WOULD AFFECT ITS DEPTH AND THE  
RESULTING RAINFALL FORECAST.  
 
FARTHER WEST, A PACIFIC UPPER LOW IS FORECAST TO SPIN INITIAL  
TROUGHING INTO NORTHERN CALIFORNIA BY SATURDAY AND LIFTING THROUGH  
THE NORTHWEST SUNDAY. THEN THE LOW/TROUGH ITSELF WILL GRADUALLY  
TRACK EASTWARD TOWARD THE WEST COAST EARLY NEXT WEEK, WITH SOME  
TYPICAL MODEL SPREAD. MEANWHILE, WATCHING A SHORTWAVE THAT DIVES  
SOUTHEAST THROUGH CENTRAL CANADA ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE UPPER  
LOW, REACHING THE UPPER MIDWEST WITH MORE TROUGHING BY AROUND NEXT  
TUESDAY. 00Z MODELS CAME IN WITH REASONABLY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH  
THAT FEATURE (AFTER THE 12Z CMC WAS A FAST OUTLIER).  
 
THE WPC FORECAST WAS BASED ON A MULTI-MODEL DETERMINISTIC BLEND  
EARLY IN THE FORECAST PERIOD. AS THE PERIOD PROGRESSED, LESSENED  
THE PROPORTION OF DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE IN FAVOR OF THE ENSEMBLE  
MEANS, WITH THE MEANS REACHING HALF THE MODEL BLEND BY DAY 6 AND  
MORE DAY 7 AMID INCREASING SPREAD.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
MOISTURE IS FORECAST TO FLOW INTO THE WESTERN U.S. AS SHORTWAVES  
UNDERCUT THE MEAN UPPER RIDGE AND AS TROUGHING EDGES TOWARD THE  
WEST COAST. THE MONSOONAL MOISTURE LOOKS TO BE INFLUENCED BY WHAT  
IS CURRENTLY T.D. TWELVE-E, BRINGING WELL ABOVE NORMAL PRECIPITABLE  
WATER VALUES THAT END UP STRETCHING THROUGH MUCH OF THE WEST.  
LARGE MARGINAL RISKS ARE IN PLACE FOR DAYS 4 AND 5 IN THE  
INTERMOUNTAIN WEST AS LOCALIZED FLASH FLOODING IS POSSIBLE IN THIS  
MOIST ENVIRONMENT. INSTABILITY LOOKS TO BE PARTICULARLY HIGH IN THE  
DESERT SOUTHWEST, AND WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO NEED SLIGHT RISKS  
EVENTUALLY THERE. CURRENTLY THOUGH THE GREATEST INSTABILITY AXIS  
(EASTERN CALIFORNIA, SOUTHERN NEVADA, WESTERN ARIZONA) IS LOCATED  
WEST OF WHERE THE MODELS FOCUS QPF (MORE IN THE MOGOLLON RIM),  
LIMITING CONFIDENCE IN THE PLACEMENT. MOISTURE AND UPPER-LEVEL  
SUPPORT FOR RAIN AND STORMS WILL SHIFT GRADUALLY EASTWARD THIS  
WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK, SPREADING INTO THE SOUTHERN AND  
CENTRAL PLAINS, BUT THE DETAILS ARE DEPENDENT ON THE T.D. TRACK.  
GENERALLY SOME PRECIPITATION LOOKS TO EXPAND INTO PARTS OF THE  
PLAINS ON SATURDAY WITH CHANCES FOR HEAVIER RAIN BY EARLY NEXT  
WEEK.  
 
FRONTAL BOUNDARIES MOVING THROUGH THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S.  
AHEAD OF THE PRIMARY TROUGH LATE THIS WEEK WILL PROVIDE A FOCUS FOR  
RAIN AND SOME CONVECTION. AT THIS POINT RAINFALL MAINLY LOOKS TO  
STAY BELOW MARGINAL RISK LEVELS FOR FLASH FLOODING CONCERNS. ONE  
EXCEPTION COULD BE THE CENTRAL U.S. THOUGH, WHERE THE FRONT  
ORIENTED WEST-EAST AND INSTABILITY COULD LEAD TO TRAINING STORMS.  
BUT MODEL GUIDANCE CURRENTLY SHOWS A RAINFALL FOCUS ANYWHERE FROM  
KANSAS, OKLAHOMA, MISSOURI, OR ARKANSAS ON DAY 4/FRIDAY, SO WILL  
HOLD OFF ON ANY ERO RISK AREA FOR HOPEFULLY BETTER MODEL  
CONVERGENCE IN FUTURE CYCLES. A COUPLE OF ROUNDS OF RAIN ARE  
FORECAST TO MOVE THROUGH THE EAST FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WITH THE  
FRONTS, AND THE COOL WESTERLY FLOW ATOP THE GREAT LAKES COULD LEAD  
TO LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS FOR THE WEEKEND. FARTHER SOUTH, FRONTS  
MEANDERING OVER SOUTHERN PARTS OF FLORIDA IN AN UNSTABLE  
ENVIRONMENT WITH ABOVE NORMAL MOISTURE COULD CONTINUE TO ALLOW FOR  
LOCALIZED FLASH FLOOD POTENTIAL WITH URBAN AREAS MOST VULNERABLE.  
MARGINAL RISKS ARE IN PLACE FOR SOUTH FLORIDA AND THE KEYS ON DAY  
4/FRIDAY AND FOR SOUTH FLORIDA ON DAY 5/SATURDAY (AS THE MOISTURE  
FOCUS PULLS A BIT AWAY FROM THE KEYS) FOR THIS POTENTIAL.  
 
THE LARGE TROUGH COVERING THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN U.S. FOR LATE  
WEEK WILL PROMOTE WELL BELOW AVERAGE TEMPERATURES BEHIND MULTIPLE  
COLD FRONTS. LOWS ARE FORECAST TO BE GENERALLY AROUND 10-15 DEGREES  
BELOW AVERAGE FOR FRIDAY THROUGH THE WEEKEND ACROSS MUCH OF THE  
PLAINS, MIDWEST, AND GREAT LAKES SOUTH INTO THE OHIO/TENNESSEE  
VALLEYS. LOWS REACHING THE 30S MAY CAUSE CONCERNS FOR FROST FOR  
NORTH DAKOTA TO AROUND LAKE SUPERIOR, DEPENDING ON WIND AND CLOUD  
COVER. HIGHS COULD BE EVEN MORE ANOMALOUS ON FRIDAY ACROSS THE  
UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES -- AROUND 15-20 DEGREES BELOW NORMAL.  
THIS COULD SET A FEW DAILY RECORDS FOR LOW MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES,  
AS HIGHS ONLY REACH THE 50S IN SOME LOCATIONS OF THE UPPER MIDWEST  
AND GREAT LAKES. TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST TO GRADUALLY WARM  
CLOSER TO NORMAL INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK AS THE COLDER AIR MASS MOVES  
EAST AND MODERATES AS THE UPPER TROUGH LIFTS OUT. STILL,  
TEMPERATURES MAY NOT QUITE GET BACK TO TYPICAL EARLY SEPTEMBER  
VALUES. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE NORTHWEST CAN EXPECT ONE MORE WARM  
TO HOT DAY FRIDAY BEFORE TEMPERATURES CONTINUE TO GRADUALLY  
MODERATE THERE. IN THE WEST, THE AMPLE CLOUD COVER AND SHOWER  
COVERAGE WILL GENERALLY YIELD NEAR TO ABOVE AVERAGE LOWS AND NEAR  
TO BELOW AVERAGE HIGHS.  
 
TATE  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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