864  
FXUS02 KWBC 031948  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
348 PM EDT FRI OCT 3 2025  
 
VALID 12Z MON OCT 06 2025 - 12Z FRI OCT 10 2025  
 
   
..GENERAL OVERVIEW
 
 
UPPER RIDGING OVER THE EASTERN SEABOARD WILL SHUNT SOUTH AND SHIFT  
WEST OVER THE GULF COAST MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY WHERE IT WILL  
PERSIST THROUGH NEXT WEEK. MEANWHILE A MORE TRANSIENT UPPER PATTERN  
CONTINUES OVER THE CENTRAL/NORTHERN STATES WITH A DEEP TROUGH  
SWINGING THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY. A COLD  
FRONT AND CANADIAN SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE FOLLOWS THIS TROUGH WITH  
COOLER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES TRACKING FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS  
TUESDAY TO THE NORTHEAST BY LATE WEEK. FARTHER SOUTH, TROPICAL  
MOISTURE INTERACTING WITH A LINGERING STATIONARY FRONT MAY PRODUCE  
HEAVY THUNDERSTORMS OVER FLORIDA, GEORGIA, AND INTO SOUTH CAROLINA  
MONDAY. FINALLY, DEEP UPPER TROUGHING LOOKS TO AMPLIFY ALONG/OFF  
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST LATER NEXT WEEK.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT
 
 
UPDATED DETERMINISTIC AND ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE IS WELL CLUSTERED FOR  
THE FIRST PART OF THE PERIOD EARLY NEXT WEEK. A TRANSITION LOOKS TO  
OCCUR FROM MEAN RIDGING OVER THE EASTERN U.S. AND MEAN TROUGHING  
OVER THE CENTRAL/WESTERN U.S. TO A TROUGH/RIDGE/TROUGH PATTERN FROM  
THE EAST TO WEST COASTS. GUIDANCE BEGINS TO DIVERGE MID-WEEK AS  
THE ECMWF AND ECENS MEAN REMAIN MORE PROGRESSIVE WITH THE UPPER-  
TROUGH MOVING THROUGH THE EASTERN U.S. AS WELL AS WITH AN UPPER-  
TROUGH APPROACHING THE WESTERN U.S. FROM THE NORTHEASTERN PACIFIC.  
BOTH PIECES OF GUIDANCE ARE ALSO MORE POSITIVELY TILTED WITH THIS  
UPPER-TROUGH, WHEREAS THE GFS/CMC AND THEIR CENTERS RESPECTIVE  
MEANS ARE MORE MERIDIONAL AND FEATURE A STRONGER RIDGE BUILDING  
NORTH OVER PORTIONS OF THE WESTERN U.S. WHILE RETAINING THE UPPER-  
TROUGH/LOW FATHER WEST EITHER JUST ALONG OR OFFSHORE THE WEST  
COAST. THIS WAS A TREND THAT HAS CONTINUED FROM THE PRIOR WPC  
FORECAST. THEY ALSO SUGGEST THE LOW WILL CUTOFF FROM THE MEAN FLOW,  
WITH THE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE A BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH THIS  
SOLUTION THAN THE ENSEMBLE MEANS. INTERESTINGLY, THE SUITE OF AI  
GUIDANCE FROM THE EC ALSO GENERALLY LEANS TOWARDS THE  
GFS/CMC/RESPECTIVE MEANS WITH MOST SOLUTIONS DIFFERING FROM THE  
ECMWF/ECENS. THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE PROGRESSIVE NATURE OF THE  
EASTERN TROUGH AS WELL. ONE OTHER LAYER OF UNCERTAINTY WILL BE THE  
POTENTIAL FOR SHORT-WAVE ENERGY UNDER THE CENTRAL U.S. RIDGE AND  
ASSOCIATED PRECIPITATION CHANCES, THOUGH THESE FEATURES NATURALLY  
HAVE LOWER PREDICTABILITY AT THIS TIMEFRAME. THE ECMWF IS LESS  
AGGRESSIVE WITH THIS ENERGY, WITH THE MEANS NOT SURPRISINGLY LESS  
PRONOUNCED AS WELL. THE UPDATED 12Z GUIDANCE GENERALLY CONTINUED  
ALL NOTED TRENDS.  
 
THE UPDATED WPC FORECAST BEGAN WITH A COMPOSITE BLEND OF THE 00Z  
ECMWF/CMC AND 06Z GFS GUIDANCE GIVEN THE NOTED GOOD CLUSTERING.  
THEREAFTER, THE ECENS MEAN WAS SWAPPED FOR THE ECMWF GIVEN A LESS  
NOTABLE DIFFERENCE COMPARED TO THE OTHER GUIDANCE WHILE A  
CONTRIBUTION FROM THE GEFS MEAN WAS ALSO ADDED AS UNCERTAINTY  
INCREASED WITH RESPECT TO SHORTWAVE ENERGY OVER THE CENTRAL U.S.  
THE BLEND FOR THE LATTER PART OF THE PERIOD RELIED HEAVILY ON THE  
GEFS MEAN, WITH AN ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CMC ENSEMBLE  
MEAN, WHICH LEANS TOWARDS THE MORE MERIDIONAL GUIDANCE AND ALSO  
REPRESENTED SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS FROM THE AI GUIDANCE GOOD AS  
WELL. THIS ALSO HELPED KEEP SOME CONTINUITY FROM THE PRIOR WPC  
FORECAST BY NOT SHIFTING EVEN FURTHER WEST/MORE AMPLIFIED AS THE  
GFS/CMC.  
 
GUIDANCE HAS ALSO CONTINUED A TREND IN SHOWING STRONGER RIDGING  
AND LESS QPF NOT ONLY FOR SC/GA BUT ALSO ALONG PORTIONS OF THE  
FLORIDA COAST. WHILE TROPICAL MOISTURE MAY LEAD TO SOME HEAVIER  
RAINFALL, TRENDED DOWNWARD WITH THE BROADER NUMBERS IN THE UPDATED  
QPF FORECAST COMPARED TO THE NBM CONSIDERING ALL GUIDANCE WAS  
INDICATING LOWER AMOUNTS.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS
 
 
DESPITE A DOWNWARD TREND IN SOUTHEAST QPF MONDAY/TUESDAY, THE DAY  
4 ERO REMAINS MARGINAL WITH SOME SHIFTS SOUTH AND INLAND. THE  
MOISTURE ANOMALIES ARE NOW GENERALLY FOCUSED OVER THE FL PENINSULA  
INTO GA/AL, SO THIS AREA WILL CONTINUE TO NEED TO BE MONITORED FOR  
EXCESSIVE RAIN. THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY LOOKS TO LINGER ACROSS THE  
REGION THROUGH MUCH OF THE WEEK.  
 
A COLD FRONT AHEAD OF A POWERFUL TROUGH PIVOTS OVER THE CENTRAL  
PLAINS INTO THE MIDWEST MONDAY. THE RISK OF REPEATING HEAVY RAIN  
WARRANTS MAINTENANCE OF A MARGINAL RISK FOR DAY 4/MONDAY FROM  
CENTRAL KS THROUGH THE IL/WI BORDER. ADDITIONAL STORMS ARE EXPECTED  
AHEAD OF THE FRONT ACROSS THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST SOUTHWEST INTO  
THE OHIO VALLEY DAY 5/TUESDAY. DESPITE WHAT SHOULD BE SOMEWHAT  
LIMITED INSTABILITY, MOISTURE POOLING AHEAD OF THE FRONT WILL  
SUPPORT THE CHANCE FOR SOME HEAVIER RAINFALL AND AT LEAST AN  
ISOLATED RISK FOR FLASH FLOODING FOR MORE SENSITIVE AREAS ACROSS  
THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY/APPALACHIANS VICINITY, SO A MARGINAL RISK HAS  
BEEN INCLUDED HERE AS WELL.  
 
MOISTURE ANOMALIES INCREASE OVER NEW MEXICO TUESDAY FROM CONTINUED  
SURGES OF MOISTURE FROM THE WESTERN GULF ONTO A FRONTAL WAVE THAT  
IS STALLED OVER NORTHERN NM. INTRODUCED A DAY 5 MARGINAL RISK FOR  
MUCH OF NM. A SLIGHT RISK WAS CONSIDERED, BUT GIVEN THE NOTABLE  
RUN- TO- RUN CHANGES IN GUIDANCE A MARGINAL WILL SUFFICE FOR NOW. A  
LOT OF UNCERTAINTY REMAINS WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR AN INFLUX OF  
TROPICAL MOISTURE FROM THE PACIFIC INTO THE DESERT SOUTHWEST MID-  
TO LATE NEXT WEEK, BUT AT LEAST SOME INCREASE IN THUNDERSTORM  
ACTIVITY SHOULD BE EXPECTED. AN UPPER-TROUGH APPROACHING FROM THE  
NORTHEASTERN PACIFIC WILL BRING INCREASING PRECIPITATION CHANCES TO  
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST BY MID- TO LATE NEXT WEEK AS WELL.  
 
TEMPERATURES WILL BE BELOW NORMAL UNDER TROUGHING OVER THE  
INTERMOUNTAIN WEST MONDAY WITH THAT COOLER TREND SHIFTING EAST WITH  
A COLD FRONT OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS TUESDAY, THE MIDWEST  
WEDNESDAY, AND THE EASTERN SEABOARD FOR THURSDAY/FRIDAY. MEANWHILE,  
RIDGING OVER THE GULF COAST WILL MAINTAIN ABOVE NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES OVER TEXAS AND LOUISIANA THROUGH NEXT WEEK.  
 
PUTNAM/JACKSON  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 

 
 
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