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FOUS30 KWBC 061603  
QPFERD  
 
EXCESSIVE RAINFALL DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
1203 PM EDT MON OCT 6 2025  
 
DAY 1  
VALID 16Z MON OCT 06 2025 - 12Z TUE OCT 07 2025  
 
...THERE IS SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF  
THE MID-SOUTH AND LOWER OHIO VALLEY...  
   
..16Z UPDATE
 
 
MINOR CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE DAY 1 ERO FOR THE MID-SOUTH/LOWER  
OHIO VALLEY AND THE CENTRAL GULF COAST. THE SLIGHT RISK AREA WAS  
EXPANDED A LITTLE BIT FARTHER INTO SOUTHERN INDIANA/ILLINOIS BASED  
ON HIRES TRENDS AND 12Z HREF NEIGHBORHOOD EXCEEDANCE PROBABILITIES  
OF 5 INCHES BETWEEN 10-20%. A SEPARATE BAND OF CONVECTION MAY  
DEVELOP AND LIFT NORTH THROUGH THOSE AREAS THIS AFTERNOON/EVENING.  
BY CONTRAST, THE DETERMINISTIC GFS AND EURO KEEP THE HIGHEST QPF  
OUT OF SOUTHERN IN/IL.  
 
THE MARGINAL RISK AREA OVER EASTERN FLORIDA REMAINS UNCHANGED DUE  
TO NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE GUIDANCE.  
 
KEBEDE  
   
..PREVIOUS DISCUSSION
 
 
   
..MID-SOUTH/LOWER OHIO VALLEY AND THE CENTRAL GULF COAST
 
 
AN ELONGATED LOW TO MID-LEVEL VORT CENTER NEAR THE CENTRAL GULF  
COAST WILL LIFT NORTHWARD INTO THE MID-SOUTH TODAY AND GRADUALLY  
STRETCH NORTHEASTWARD INTO PORTIONS OF THE LOWER OH VALLEY BY LATER TONIGHT  
THROUGH EARLY TUESDAY MORNING. INCREASINGLY CONVERGENT FLOW AROUND  
THE EASTERN FLANK OF THE VORT ENERGY AND AN ASSOCIATED WEAK SURFACE  
LOW/TROUGH AXIS COUPLED WITH ENHANCING MOISTURE TRANSPORT AIDED BY  
A 30 TO 40 KT LOW-LEVEL JET WILL SUPPORT BROKEN BANDS OF HEAVY  
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. MODEST INSTABILITY WITH MLCAPE VALUES OF  
500 TO 1000 J/KG WILL BE IN PLACE WITH THE AID OF DIURNAL HEATING,  
BUT THE VERTICAL COLUMN WILL BE QUITE MOIST WITH CIRA-ALPW DATA  
SHOWING THE AFOREMENTIONED VORT ENERGY EMBEDDED WITHIN A RATHER  
DEEP TROPICAL ENVIRONMENT CHARACTERIZED BY PWS OF 2 TO 2.25 INCHES.  
 
RELATIVELY WARM-TOPPED CONVECTION WITH HIGH WBZ LEVELS WILL SUPPORT  
VERY EFFICIENT RAINFALL PROCESSES FOR HIGH RAINFALL RATES AS THIS  
ENERGY LIFTS NORTH OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. THE LATEST 00Z  
HREF GUIDANCE SUPPORTS BROKEN CONVECTION WITH RAINFALL RATES AS  
HIGH AS 1.5 TO 2.5 INCHES/HOUR, AND SOME CONCERNS FOR SOME CELL-  
TRAINING THAT MAY FOSTER SOME LOCALIZED TOTALS OF 3 TO 5 INCHES.  
THE MORE CONCENTRATED AREAS OF CONVECTION ARE MOST LIKELY TO FOCUS  
ACROSS AREAS OF EASTERN AR/WESTERN TN NORTHEASTWARD UP INTO WESTERN  
KY AND SOUTHERN IN GOING THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY MORNING  
WHERE THE AXIS OF STRONGER LOW-LEVEL CONVERGENCE IN CONJUNCTION  
WITH SOME MODEST UPPER-LEVEL JET FORCING/DIVERGENCE IS FORECAST TO  
BECOME ALIGNED. A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL WILL BE  
MAINTAINED FOR THIS PERIOD, WITH SOME SOUTHWARD EXPANSION OF IT  
DEPICTED DOWN ACROSS EASTERN AR COMPARED TO CONTINUITY GIVEN THE  
LATEST MULTI-MODEL HIRES CONSENSUS. THE SETUP WILL BE CONDUCIVE  
FOR THERE BEING ISOLATED TO SCATTERED AREAS OF FLASH FLOODING WHICH  
WILL INCLUDE URBANIZED FLOODING CONCERNS.  
 
MEANWHILE, VERY MOIST AND CONVERGENT LOW-LEVEL SOUTHERLY FLOW OFF  
THE GULF COUPLED WITH A MODERATELY UNSTABLE BOUNDARY LAYER WILL  
FAVOR A THREAT FOR ADDITIONAL SMALL-SCALE BANDS OF CONVECTION TO  
IMPACT PARTS OF EASTERN LA ALONG WITH COASTAL AREAS OF SOUTHERN  
MS, SOUTHWEST AL AND INTO THE WESTERN FL PANHANDLE. PWS RUNNING  
CLOSE TO OR ABOVE 2 INCHES COUPLED WITH THE INSTABILITY WILL YIELD  
HIGH RAINFALL RATES, WITH SOME LOCALIZED ADDITIONAL RAINFALL TOTALS  
FOR THIS PERIOD OF 2 TO 4+ INCHES POSSIBLE. THIS IS SUPPORTED BY  
THE 00Z HREF GUIDANCE, AND THE SETUP WILL SUPPORT ISOLATED CONCERNS  
FOR RUNOFF PROBLEMS/FLASH FLOODING. AS A RESULT, A MARGINAL RISK  
OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL HAS BEEN EXPANDING TO ENCOMPASS THESE AREAS.  
   
..EASTERN FL
 
 
MOIST EASTERLY LOW-LEVEL FLOW WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT SCATTERED  
AREAS OF CONVECTION OVER EASTERN FL TODAY THROUGH TONIGHT. THE  
ACTIVITY AGAIN SHOULD TEND TO BE RATHER DISORGANIZED, BUT THERE  
WILL BE SOME POTENTIAL FOR SMALL-SCALE EAST/WEST ORIENTED BANDS TO  
SET UP THAT MAY RESULT IN SOME ISOLATED 2 TO 4+ INCH RAINFALL  
TOTALS. THIS MAY DRIVE AT LEAST SOME ISOLATED RUNOFF CONCERNS. AS A  
RESULT, THE MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IS MAINTAINED FOR  
THIS PERIOD.  
 
ORRISON  
 
DAY 2  
VALID 12Z TUE OCT 07 2025 - 12Z WED OCT 08 2025  
 
...THERE IS SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF  
THE OHIO VALLEY...  
   
..OHIO VALLEY INTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS
 
 
A SLIGHT RISK WAS MAINTAINED FROM PORTIONS OF NORTHERN TN INTO MUCH  
OF KY, SOUTHERN IN AND OH, AND WESTERN WV WHERE ISOLATED TO  
SCATTERED FLASH FLOODING IS LIKELY. INCREASING SOUTHERLY FLOW AHEAD  
OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT WILL ADVECT MOISTURE NORTHWARD WHILE  
ALSO ENHANCING LOWER LEVEL CONVERGENCE. ALSO OF NOTE IS A SFC-850MB  
LOW THAT IS OVER AR TODAY AND WAS OVER THE NORTHERN GULF ON SUNDAY.  
THIS FEATURE WILL GET MORE ELONGATED IN NATURE BY TUESDAY, BUT  
SHOULD STILL ACT TO LOCALLY INCREASE MOISTURE TRANSPORT AND  
CONVERGENCE OVER KY AND SURROUNDING AREAS. PWS ARE FORECAST AROUND  
2", WHICH IS WELL OVER THE 90TH PERCENTILE FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR.  
INSTABILITY IS EXPECTED TO ONLY BE MODEST, GENERALLY IN THE 500-1000  
J/KG RANGE, HOWEVER THE STRONG SYNOPTIC FORCING PROVIDED BY THE  
APPROACHING FRONT AND GOOD UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE SHOULD COMPENSATE  
FOR THIS AND STILL ALLOW FOR ORGANIZED CONVECTION.  
 
BOTH THE 00Z HREF AND REFS SHOW MODERATE TO HIGH PROBABILITIES OF  
HOURLY RAINFALL EXCEEDING 1", BUT ONLY LOW PROBABILITIES OF  
EXCEEDING 2". THE LIMITED INSTABILITY IS LIKELY RESPONSIBLE FOR  
THE LACK OF 2"+ PER HOUR RAINFALL RATES. HOWEVER THE DEEP SATURATED  
LAYER AND LOW TOPPED CONVECTION SUPPORTS HIGHLY EFFICIENT WARM RAIN  
COLLISION-COALASCENCE PROCESSES, LEADING TO THE LIKELIHOOD OF AT  
LEAST 1" PER HOUR RAINFALL.  
 
THE MAIN QUESTION FOR FLASH FLOOD POTENTIAL WILL BE THE DURATION OF  
THESE HIGHER RATES, AS IT SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT 1HR FFG WILL BE  
EXCEEDED. WHILE THE FRONT WILL BE PROGRESSIVE, IT DOES LOOK LIKE WE  
WILL HAVE ENOUGH CONVECTIVE COVERAGE TO SUPPORT SOME TRAINING, AND  
AT LEAST A FEW HOURS OF HEAVY RAINFALL RATES. THUS WHILE 1HR FFG MAY  
BE DIFFICULT TO OVERCOME, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE WILL BE AN  
OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME EXCEEDANCE OF THE 3HR FFG...WITH BOTH THE 00Z  
HREF AND REFS SHOWING EXCEEDANCE PROBABILITIES UPWARDS OF 25-50%.  
THE LATEST WPC QPF INDICATES EVENT TOTAL RAINFALL OF 2-4" OVER MOST  
OF THE SLIGHT RISK AREA, WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY HIGH HREF AND REFS  
NEIGHBORHOOD PROBABILITIES OF EXCEEDING 3". ALSO WILL NOTE THAT  
THERE ARE EVEN MODERATE PROBABILITIES OF LOCALLY EXCEEDING 5" WITH  
THIS EVENT.  
 
THERE IS A BIT OF MODEL SPREAD ON THE MOST FAVORED AXIS FOR HEAVIEST  
RAINFALL AND FLASH FLOODING. BOTH THE HREF AND REFS SUPPORTS A  
SLIGHTLY FARTHER SOUTHWEST AXIS ACROSS KY AND NORTHERN TN, WITH THE  
GLOBAL GUIDANCE GENERALLY MORE OVER EASTERN KY INTO WV. THE SLIGHT  
RISK WAS MADE BIG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT A COMPROMISE OF THESE TWO CAMPS,  
AND WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR TRENDS GOING FORWARD. GENERALLY  
THINK THE HIGHEST RISK IS OVER KY, BUT CAN NO RULE OUT THAT SHIFTING  
INTO NORTHERN TN OR PORTIONS OF WV.  
 
WHILE THE RAINFALL DOES LOOK A BIT MORE CONVECTIVE NOW OVER THE  
NORTHEAST, 1" PER HOUR PROBABILITIES ARE STILL LOW...WITH MOST  
GUIDANCE PEAKING RAINFALL RATES IN THE 0.5"-0.75" RANGE. GIVEN THE  
ONGOING DROUGHT CONDITIONS IT STILL SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT THESE RATES  
WILL BE HIGH ENOUGH TO OVERCOME THE DRY SOIL CONDITIONS. THUS EVEN  
WITH RAINFALL TOTALS APPROACHING 1.5" WE WILL CONTINUE WITH NO RISK  
AREA DEPICTED.  
   
..SOUTHEAST FL
 
 
EXPECTING ANOTHER DAY OF SCATTERED CONVECTION WITHIN THE EASTERLY LOW  
LEVEL FLOW TUESDAY. COMPARED TO PREVIOUS DAYS THE THREAT SHOULD  
MOSTLY BE FOCUSED OVER SOUTHEAST FL BY THIS TIME, AND A LOCALIZED  
URBAN FLASH FLOOD RISK IS POSSIBLE.  
   
..NM
 
 
THE CONVECTIVE THREAT LOOKS A BIT BETTER THAN IT DID THIS TIME LAST  
NIGHT WITH MODELS TRENDING A BIT MORE ROBUST WITH DEVELOPMENT.  
EASTERLY LOW LEVEL POST FRONTAL FLOW WILL HELP LOCALLY ENHANCE  
CONVERGENCE AND UPSLOPE AND SCATTERED CONVECTION IS LIKELY TO  
DEVELOP. INSTABILITY IS FORECAST TO BE MODEST, BUT MAY GET TOWARDS  
1000 J/KG, WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR HEAVY RAINFALL RATES GIVEN THE  
ANOMALOUS PWS IN PLACE. THE HIGH RES GUIDANCE IS STARTING TO SHOW A  
THREAT OF 1"+ PER HOUR RAINFALL, WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR ISOLATED  
FLASH FLOODING.  
 
CHENARD  
 
DAY 3  
VALID 12Z WED OCT 08 2025 - 12Z THU OCT 09 2025  
 
...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF  
NEW MEXICO...  
 
LOOKING AT A CONTINUATION OF THE LOCALIZED HEAVY RAINFALL THREAT OVER  
NM INTO WEDNESDAY. THE MOISTURE PLUME AND INSTABILITY AXIS WILL  
EXPAND WESTWARD WHICH SHOULD EXPAND THE ISOLATED FLASH FLOOD RISK IN  
THAT DIRECTION AS WELL. THE ENVIRONMENTAL INGREDIENTS LOOK PRETTY  
SIMILAR TO TUESDAY, AS DO MODEL QPF FORECASTS. SO WOULD GENERALLY  
EXPECT SIMILAR CONVECTIVE COVERAGE AND INTENSITY WITH ISOLATED FLASH  
FLOODING AGAIN A CONCERN.  
 
CHENARD  
 
DAY 1 THREAT AREA: HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/94EPOINTS.TXT  
DAY 2 THREAT AREA: HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/98EPOINTS.TXT  
DAY 3 THREAT AREA: HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/99EPOINTS.TXT  
 
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