512  
FXUS02 KWBC 271956  
PMDEPD  
 
EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
356 PM EDT MON OCT 27 2025  
 
VALID 12Z THU OCT 30 2025 - 12Z MON NOV 03 2025  
 
...HEAVY RAIN LIKELY FOR THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST THURSDAY  
INTO FRIDAY...  
   
..OVERVIEW  
 
MODELS CONTINUE TO ADVERTISE AN AMPLIFIED AND ACTIVE UPCOMING  
MEDIUM RANGE PATTERN WHICH FEATURES A COUPLE OF ROUNDS OF DEEP  
TROUGHING WITH EMBEDDED UPPER LOWS OVER THE EASTERN U.S. AND A  
BUILDING RIDGE OUT WEST. THE FIRST EASTERN UPPER LOW WILL BE OVER  
THE MID-SOUTH BY THE START OF THE PERIOD ON THURSDAY, AND WILL LIFT  
NORTHWARD ACROSS THE INTERIOR EAST AS ITS EASTERLY MOVEMENT GETS  
BLOCKED BY A STRONG RIDGE OVER THE ATLANTIC. THIS BRINGS A RISK FOR  
HEAVY RAINFALL TO PARTS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST THURSDAY  
INTO EARLY FRIDAY. ANOTHER SHORTWAVE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE UPPER  
LOW WILL DROP SOUTHWARD NEXT WEEKEND RENEWING AMPLIFIED TROUGHING  
OVER THE EAST ONCE AGAIN EARLY NEXT WEEK. THE NORTHWEST WILL TREND  
WETTER AND MORE ACTIVE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AHEAD OF A SHORTWAVE  
MOVING INTO THE REGION, WITH UPPER RIDGING BUILDING BACK IN AFTER.  
 
   
..GUIDANCE/PREDICTABILITY ASSESSMENT  
 
RECENT MODEL RUNS CONTINUE TO SHOW MORE FAVORABLE AGREEMENT THAN  
THE PAST FEW DAYS WITH THE UPPER LOW IN THE OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS  
AND PIVOTING NORTHWARD THROUGH THE INTERIOR NORTHEAST THURSDAY-  
FRIDAY, AS THE RESULTING SURFACE LOW MOVES ACROSS THE APPALACHIANS  
AND VICINITY. SOME MODEL DIFFERENCES WITH THE TIMING AND TRACK OF  
THE LOW AND FRONTS ARE NOW WITHIN MORE TYPICAL SPREAD FOR THE EARLY  
MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD. BEHIND THIS, A COUPLE OF SHORTWAVES DROP INTO  
THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. LATE WEEK AND INTO THE WEEKEND, ACTING TO  
REINFORCE TROUGHING OVER THE EAST FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK. MODEL SPREAD  
GROWS WITH THESE FEATURES, PARTICULARLY WITH THE AMPLITUDE OF  
TROUGHING (06Z GFS ON THE SHALLOWER SIDE) AND ITS TIMING (00Z CMC  
BECOMES FAST IN REACHING THE WESTERN ATLANTIC EARLY MONDAY. THE  
RESULTING SURFACE LOW IN THE NORTHERN TIER WAS PARTICULARLY STRONG  
INTO THE GREAT LAKES IN THE 06Z GFS BY NEXT MONDAY, AND IN GENERAL  
THE 12Z MODELS SEEMED TO TREND A LITTLE WEAKER THAN THE PREVIOUS  
MODEL CYCLE. THIS PATTERN FOR EASTERN U.S. TROUGHING MAY ALLOW FOR  
A COASTAL LOW TO DEVELOP AS WELL, OR AT LEAST SURFACE TROUGHING.  
 
FOR THE WEST, UPPER RIDGING WILL MOSTLY BE IN PLACE TO THE SOUTH  
OF A SHORTWAVE MOVING THROUGH THE NORTHWEST AROUND THURSDAY AND  
STRONG ZONAL FLOW THEREAFTER. MODELS SHOW GOOD CONSENSUS FOR THIS,  
AND THEN WILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE PATTERN ACROSS THE  
EASTERN PACIFIC BY EARLY NEXT WEEK AS MODEL SPREAD INCREASES.  
 
A GENERAL BLEND OF THE 00/06Z DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE SERVED AS A  
GOOD STARTING POINT FOR THE EARLY PART OF THE MEDIUM RANGE  
FORECAST, AND EVEN INTO THE WEEKEND FORECAST WITH THE REASONABLE  
LARGE SCALE AGREEMENT. DID INCREASE THE PROPORTION OF ENSEMBLE  
MEANS TO AROUND HALF BY DAY 7.  
 
   
..WEATHER/HAZARDS HIGHLIGHTS  
 
REASONABLY STRONG SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SHIFTING FROM THE MID-  
ATLANTIC INTO THE NORTHEAST THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY WILL DRAW TROPICAL  
ATLANTIC MOISTURE INTO IT, CREATING A THREAT FOR MODERATE TO HEAVY  
RAINFALL IN THIS REGION ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE LOW TRACK AND  
ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT. WITH MODEST INSTABILITY IN PLACE, AND  
SUFFICIENT FORCING AND DIVERGENCE WITHIN THE COUPLED JET IN THE  
NEGATIVELY TILTED TROUGH, LOCALLY HEAVY RAIN RATES ARE POSSIBLE  
WITH ISOLATED FLOODING CONCERNS. A MARGINAL RISK IS IN PLACE ON THE  
DAY 4/THURSDAY ERO OVER PARTS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST.  
FROM EXTENSIVE COLLABORATION WITH WFOS, THE MARGINAL RISK WAS  
TRIMMED OUT OF AREAS FARTHER INLAND, EVEN THOUGH HEAVY RAIN RATES  
MAY REACH PARTS OF INTERIOR NEW YORK AND NEW ENGLAND AND THE  
ANTECEDENT DRY GROUND CAN OFTEN ENHANCE RUNOFF. RAIN RATES SHOULD  
STAY AT MORE MODERATE LEVELS BACK TOWARD THE LOWER GREAT LAKES  
REGION CLOSER TO THE UPPER LOW WHERE THERE WILL BE LESS  
INSTABILITY. HEAVY RAIN LOOKS TO BE MOVING THROUGH MAINE FRIDAY  
MORNING AND THEN EXITING THE NORTHEAST, THOUGH LAKE EFFECT RAINS  
ARE LIKELY BEHIND THE PRIMARY SYSTEM. BY THE WEEKEND, UPPER LEVEL  
ENERGY AND FRONTAL SYSTEMS COULD LEAD TO ROUNDS OF LIGHT  
PRECIPITATION, PRIMARILY RAIN, IN THE MIDWEST, GREAT LAKES,  
OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS, AND POSSIBLY REACHING THE CENTRAL GULF  
COAST.  
 
THURSDAY SHOULD BE A RELATIVELY DRY DAY FOR THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST,  
BUT RENEWAL OF PRECIPITATION THAT COULD BE HEAVY IS POSSIBLE  
FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY AS A MODERATELY STRONG ATMOSPHERIC RIVER TAKES  
AIM AT THE REGION AHEAD OF A LARGER NORTHEAST PACIFIC LOW. THE  
MARGINAL RISK IN THE DAY 5/FRIDAY ERO STILL LOOKS GOOD FOR THIS  
REGION, BUT JUST TRIMMED OUT THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE RISK AREA DUE  
TO SLOWER MOVEMENT OF THE AR SOUTHWARD. MOST PRECIPITATION IS  
FORECAST TO STAY RAIN OTHER THAN SNOW IN THE HIGHEST PEAKS OF THE  
OLYMPICS THROUGH FRIDAY, WITH PERHAPS MORE SNOW IN THE CASCADES.  
ELSEWHERE, THE SOUTHWEST TO THE PLAINS SHOULD STAY MOSTLY DRY  
THROUGH THE PERIOD UNDER THE RIDGE ALOFT.  
 
THE SOUTHWESTERN U.S. CAN EXPECT WARMER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES  
UNDERNEATH UPPER RIDGING FOR MUCH OF THE PERIOD, EXPANDING THROUGH  
MUCH OF THE WEST INTO THE CENTRAL U.S. BY THE WEEKEND. THE DESERT  
SOUTHWEST CAN EXPECT HIGHS IN THE 90S, AROUND 5-15 DEGREES ABOVE  
NORMAL. MEANWHILE, THE SOUTHEASTERN QUADRANT OF THE LOWER 48 SHOULD  
SEE BELOW AVERAGE TEMPERATURES LATE THIS WEEK UNDER THE UPPER LOW,  
WITH DAYTIME HIGHS ONLY INTO THE UPPER 50S/LOW 60S IN MUCH OF THE  
SOUTHEAST AROUND 10-20 DEGREES BELOW AVERAGE. THESE COOL  
TEMPERATURES SHOULD MODERATE INTO THE WEEKEND AS THE LOW LIFTS  
THROUGH THE EAST, WITH TEMPERATURES RETURNING BACK CLOSER TO NORMAL  
BY EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
 
TATE/SANTORELLI  
 
ADDITIONAL 3-7 DAY HAZARD INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND ON THE WPC  
MEDIUM RANGE HAZARDS OUTLOOK CHART AT:  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/THREATS/THREATS.PHP  
 
WPC MEDIUM RANGE 500MB HEIGHTS, SURFACE SYSTEMS, WEATHER GRIDS,  
QUANTITATIVE PRECIPITATION FORECAST (QPF), EXCESSIVE RAINFALL  
OUTLOOK (ERO), WINTER WEATHER OUTLOOK (WWO) PROBABILITIES, HEAT  
INDICES, AND KEY MESSAGES CAN BE ACCESSED FROM:  
 
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST500_WBG.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/MEDR/5DAYFCST_WBG_CONUS.GIF  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/5KM_GRIDS/5KM_GRIDSBODY.HTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/QPF/DAY4-7.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=ERO  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/WWD/PWPF_D47/PWPF_MEDR.PHP?DAY=4  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HEAT_INDEX.SHTML  
HTTPS://WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/#PAGE=OVW  
 
 
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