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FXUS10 KWNH 021831  
PMDHMD  
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
230 PM EDT MON SEP 02 2019  
 
VALID SEP 02/1200 UTC THRU SEP 06/0000 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
00Z FINAL MODEL EVALUATION, CONFIDENCE, AND PREFERENCES  
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..OVERALL PATTERN ACROSS THE CONUS
 
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND THROUGH 54/60HRS  
12Z GFS/NAM/ECMWF THEREAFTER  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE THROUGH 60HRS  
AVERAGE THEREAFTER ESP IN NORTHERN STREAM  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 00Z ECMWF/CMC WERE SLOW TO BREAK DOWN THE INITIAL  
PACIFIC SHORTWAVE, BUT THE 12Z RUNS DO, STILL A BIT SLOWER THAN  
THE GFS/UKMET BUT MORE IN LINE WITH TYPICAL SMALLER TIMING  
DIFFERENCES/BIASES. HOWEVER, THIS ALSO ALLOWS FOR GREATER  
UPSTREAM AMPLIFICATION BY 84HRS OVER CENTRAL CANADA, MORE LIKE THE  
CMC. THE 12Z ECMWF/CMC ARE SLOWER THAN THE UKMET WHICH IS TIMED  
WITH THE GFS/NAM BUT STILL MUCH DEEPER. SO OVERALL, THE SPREAD IS  
REDUCED IN PLACEMENT OF THE WAVES ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE 3H  
JET (WHICH ARE STARTING TO AGREE IN STRENGTH), FOR GREATER  
AGREEMENT. STILL, FAVOR THE LESS AMPLIFIED SOLUTIONS OF THE  
NAM/GFS AND ECMWF BUT WITH INCREASED CONFIDENCE TO AVERAGE AFTER  
60HRS.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
DEEP INNER CORE/CLOSED LOW ACROSS SOUTHERN HUDSON WILL CONTINUE TO  
SHIFT NORTHEAST WITH STRONG SURFACE CYCLONE ACROSS THE NORTHEAST  
US/SOUTHEAST CANADA TODAY, WITH FRONTAL ZONE THAT WILL DRAPE  
SOUTHWARD ACROSS THE MID-ATLANTIC THROUGH EARLY TUESDAY. A STRONG  
SHORT-WAVE CURRENTLY IN CENTRAL ALBERTA WILL DRIVE SOUTHWEST  
USHERING IN STRONG NORTHWESTERLY FLOW INTO THE GREAT LAKES,  
SUPPORTING A SURFACE WAVE IN THE GREAT LAKES BY LATE TUESDAY/EARLY  
WED WITH STRONG MODEL AGREEMENT, PRESSING THE COLD FRONT IN THE  
CENTRAL APPALACHIANS BY WED NIGHT. THROUGH THIS TIME (54-60HRS, A  
GENERAL MODEL BLEND CAN BE SUPPORTED A ABOVE AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
THEREAFTER, A COMPACT SHORTWAVE JUST OFF WA COAST WILL SLIDE INTO  
THE NORTHWEST FLOW AND CROSS THE NORTHERN TIER, BUT INTO FAIRLY  
FLAT TO GLOBAL SCALE WEAK RIDGING AND WEAKENS QUICKLY. THOUGH  
THIS WAVE WILL HAVE IMPORTANCE TO TIMING/PLACEMENT OF BAROCLINIC  
ENHANCEMENT TO THE JET AND DRAWING DORIAN NORTHWARD. HOWEVER,  
THERE IS STRONG MODEL AGREEMENT THAT PACIFIC JET ENERGY WILL  
STARTING OVER TOPPING THE RIDGE IN THE CANADIAN ROCKIES AND SPUR  
DEEPER SHORTWAVE DEVELOPMENT AT ITS NOSE INTO THE NORTHERN TIER,  
WITH ADDITIONAL LEFT ROTOR SHORTWAVES STRUNG OUT INTO BOREAL  
SASKATCHEWAN. THE STRENGTH AND TIMING OF THE JET ARE UNCERTAIN  
WITH MODERATE TO LARGE MODEL SPREAD ACROSS CANADA INTO THE GREAT  
LAKES REGION. THE TYPICALLY SLOWER GUIDANCE, OF THE ECMWF/CMC ARE  
SLOWER TO WEAKEN THE INITIAL PACIFIC SHORTWAVE, THOUGH THE CMC IS  
MUCH STRONGER WITH THE JET, ALLOWING FOR A GREATER AMPLIFIED  
UPSTREAM WAVE. THE UKMET/NAM/GFS ARE FASTER TO WEAKEN THE INITIAL  
WAVE, BUT THE UKMET IS VERY STRONG WITH THE JET BUT FURTHER NORTH  
BRINGING IT INTO MANITOBA WITH A VERY AMPLIFIED WAVE. THE NAM/GFS  
ARE LESS STRONG AND THEREFORE ARE FLATTER, MUCH LIKE THE ECMWF.  
GIVEN THE INITIAL SETUP AND ORIENTATION TO THE PACIFIC STREAM, A  
FLATTER, SLIGHTLY WEAKER 3H JET SEEM MORE PLAUSIBLE AND FIT WITH  
THE LONGER-TERM ENSEMBLE TREND. WHILE THE NAM/GFS ARE MORE  
PROGRESSIVE THAN THE ECMWF...A BLEND OF THEM SEEMS A MORE STABLE  
YET LOWER CONFIDENCE SOLUTION AT THIS TIME. (60-84HRS FROM  
NORTHERN TIER/CENTRAL CANADA, THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES. THIS  
TIMING AND THEREFORE PHASING WITH DORIAN FADES INTO THE MEDIUM  
RANGE, SO PLEASE REFER TO WPC PMDEPD FOR GREATER DETAIL/PREFERENCE.  
 
   
..TROPICAL WAVE NEARING MEXICAN EAST COAST
 
 
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PREFERENCE: NON-NAM BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: NO SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURE FROM THE 00Z UKMET/CMC/ECMWF  
TO THE 12Z RUNS...THE UKMET REMAINS NORTH PAIRED WITH THE GFS, BUT  
STILL WELL DISPLACED FROM THE NAM TO KEEP INITIAL  
PREFERENCE/CONFIDENCE.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
THE 12Z NAM CONTINUES TO BE QUITE AMPLIFIED TO THE NNW WITH THE  
WAVE WHICH LONGER TERM ENSEMBLE TRENDS AND CURRENT FLOW PER WV  
SUITE, SUGGEST WOULD CONTINUE SW FOR THE SHORT-TERM PERIOD. WHILE  
THE 12Z GFS AND 00Z UKMET ARE SLIGHTLY MORE AMPLIFIED THAN THE 00Z  
ECMWF/CMC, A BLEND OF THE FOUR IS FAIRLY TIGHT PROVIDING SLIGHTLY  
ABOVE AVERAGE CONFIDENCE IN A NON-NAM BLEND FOR THIS SYSTEM.  
 
   
..HURRICANE DORIAN
 
 
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PLEASE REFER TO THE OFFICIAL NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER FORECAST  
TRACK  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 12Z UKMET SLOWED SUFFICIENTLY TO NOT BE AS CLOSE  
AS THE 12Z GFS TO THE 15Z NHC FORECAST, SO BEST PROXY TO 15Z  
FORECAST IS GOING TO BE THE 12Z GFS/GEFS (00Z UKMET). THE ECMWF,  
REMAINED THE SLOWEST AND SW COMPARED TO THE GEFS/GFS...BUT STILL  
HAS THE CMC AND NOW THE UKMET PAIRED WITH IT.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
A BLEND OF THE 12Z GFS/06Z GEFS AND CLOSEST TO THE 00Z UKMET  
PROVIDE THE BEST PROXY TO THE OFFICIAL 15Z NHC FORECAST TRACK FOR  
DORIAN WITH RESPECT TO MASS FIELDS, ALL BEING SLIGHTLY FASTER THAN  
THE 00Z ECMWF/CMC THAT REMAIN SLOW TO LIFT NORTH. THE CMC HAS  
STRONGER NORTHWARD FORCING FOR QPF DUE TO PROXIMITY TO THE RIGHT  
ENTRANCE TO THE STRONG NORTHERN STREAM JET...SO IS OUT OF PLACE  
EVEN COMPARED TO THE CLOSE SURFACE AGREEMENT WITH THE ECMWF. THE  
12Z NAM REMAINS OUT OF PHASE WITH THE REMAINING GUIDANCE AND IS  
FURTHER EAST AND EVENTUALLY FURTHER NORTHEAST OF THE OTHERWISE  
TIGHTER PACKING OF OTHER SOLUTIONS AND IS DISREGARDED IN QPF/MASS  
PREFERENCE/PROXY.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
GALLINA  
 

 
 
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