169  
FXUS10 KWNH 121636  
PMDHMD  
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
1235 PM EDT THU SEP 12 2019  
 
VALID SEP 12/1200 UTC THRU SEP 16/0000 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND FORECAST CONFIDENCE  
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...NORTHERN PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST CLOSED LOW AND APPROACHING  
SHORTWAVE...  
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PREFERENCE: NON-CMC BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
CLOSED MATURE CYCLONE OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS WILL CONTINUE TO  
LIFT INTO ONTARIO/QUEBEC BY LATE FRIDAY INTO SAT. THE  
INITIALIZATION OF THE 00Z ECMWF SEEMS TO UNDERPLAY THE IMBALANCE,  
STRONGER INTERNAL SHORTWAVE ACROSS MN (CURRENTLY), BUT THIS DOES  
NOT SEEM TO HAVE A NEGATIVE INFLUENCE ON THE MASS FIELDS MUCH  
AFTER THE FIRST 12Z (WHICH WOULD PREFER HI-RES CAMS ANYWAY).  
HOWEVER, THE 00Z CMC IS A BIT SLOWER EXITING ONTARIO, WITH A  
LINGERING TROF/DEFORMATION ZONE THAT APPEARS TO NEGATIVELY AFFECT  
THE EVOLUTION OF THE UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE CURRENTLY JUST NW OF  
VANCOUVER ISLAND. MUCH OF THE DETERMINISTIC/ENSEMBLE SOLUTIONS  
FAVOR A STRONGER FLOW/FLATTER JET STREAK ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER,  
WHILE THE CMC REMAINS COMPACT AND DROPS SOUTH. THIS MAKES THE CMC  
UNFAVORABLE IN THE NORTHERN PLAINS.  
 
   
..CLOSED LOW APPROACHING PACIFIC NORTHWEST DAY 3
 
 
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PREFERENCE: NON-UKMET BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
FURTHER UPSTREAM A BROAD,STRONG CLOSED LOW DROPS SOUTHEAST ALONG  
THE AK COAST IN THE NORTHEAST GULF OF AK. SIMILAR EVOLUTION OCCUR  
WITHIN THE GUIDANCE SUITE, THOUGH THE UKMET IS PARTICULARLY FAST  
WITH DRAWING THE WARM CONVEYOR OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST LEADING IT TO  
HEDGE EAST/FASTER THAN THE GROWING CONSENSUS. AS SUCH WILL NOT  
FAVOR THE UKMET IN THE NORTHWEST INTO DAY 3 AT SLIGHTLY ABOVE  
AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
...TROPICAL SYSTEM NEARING THE BAHAMAS THEN TOWARD FL BY THE  
WEEKEND...  
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PREFERENCE: 00Z CMC/CMCE  
: 00Z CMC/ECMWF IN WESTERN GULF DAY 3  
CONFIDENCE: BELOW AVERAGE  
 
GOES-WV SUITE DETECTS A STRONG BROAD, TROPICAL UPPER TROPOSPHERIC  
TROUGH (TUTT) CELL OVER THE EASTERN GULF WITH BROAD SOUTHWESTERLY  
FLOW WITH MODEST DIFFLUENT AXIS NORTHEAST OF THE BAHAMAS. A MORE  
CONSISTENT, CONVECTIVE PULSING AREA NORTHEAST OF THE SOUTHERN  
BAHAMAS IS THE POINT OF INTEREST, WITH A GROWING INCREASE IN  
GLOBAL GUIDANCE SUGGESTING THE WAVE TO SPUR A WEAK SURFACE LOW IN  
THE SOUTHERN BAHAMAS TODAY INTO TOMORROW. THEREAFTER, THERE IS A  
LARGE SPREAD, PARTICULARLY BETWEEN THE NAM/GFS AND THE NON-NCEP  
SOLUTIONS. THE 00Z ECMWF/UKMET ARE PARTICULARLY ROBUST IN  
DEVELOPING THE MID-LEVEL WAVE AND STRETCHING TOWARD THE SURFACE  
BUT ALONG THE EASTERN BAHAMIAN CHAIN EVENTUALLY DEEPENING IT OVER  
GRAND BAHAMA MIDDAY SAT, AND TURNING IT NORTHWARD PARALLEL TO THE  
FL COAST. THE 12Z NAM/GFS ARE MUCH WEAKER AND THEREFORE FURTHER  
SOUTHWEST MOVING THROUGH THE SOUTHERN TIP OF THE FL PENINSULA  
BEFORE TURNING, NORTH TOWARD THE CENTRAL FL PANHANDLE. THIS IS A  
SLIGHT STRENGTHENING TREND WITH THE 12Z RUN BUT STILL WELL WEAKER  
THAN THE ECMWF/UKMET. THE 00Z CMC WHILE FAVORING THE NORTHERN  
DEVELOPMENT, IS MUCH WEAKER AND SW OF THE ECMWF/UKMET, AND  
CLUSTERED WELL WITHIN THE CMCE SOLUTIONS TO HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE.  
THIS IS ALSO THE MOST MIDDLE GROUND, IN LINE WITH FORECAST  
PREFERENCE FROM NHC (VIA COORDINATION). THE SPREAD BOTH IN  
TRACK/PLACEMENT AND INTENSITY MAKES THIS A VERY UNCERTAIN FORECAST  
WITH BELOW AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
TO MUDDY THE SITUATION FURTHER, THE SAME WAVE AND TUTT CELL WILL  
CONTINUE TO PROGRESS WEST INTO THE WESTERN GULF BY THE END OF THE  
WEEKEND; THERE ARE SOME SUGGESTIONS OF A WEAKER SURFACE WAVE TO  
DEVELOP TOWARD DAY 3. GUIDANCE IS MORE FLAT HERE, AND WPC PREFERS  
SOMETHING CLOSER TO AN ECMWF/CMC BLEND SOLUTION THOUGH MORE TOWARD  
THE ECMWF IN QPF.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
GALLINA  
 

 
 
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