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FXUS10 KWNH 131825  
PMDHMD  
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
224 PM EDT FRI SEP 13 2019  
 
VALID SEP 13/1200 UTC THRU SEP 17/0000 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND FORECAST CONFIDENCE  
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..CONUS
 
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
EXCEPTIONS: NON-UKMET IN PACIFIC NORTHWEST  
12Z GFS/ECWMF BLEND IN WESTERN/CENTRAL GULF COAST  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 12Z UKMET APPEARS TO HAVE SLOWED A BIT IN THE  
PACIFIC NORTHWEST THROUGH DAY 2, BUT STILL JUMPS A SLIGHT EAST OF  
THE INCREASING CLUSTERING (THOUGH ECMWF/CMC ARE A BIT FURTHER  
SOUTH AND SLOWER THAN THE GFS). OVERALL, A NON-UKMET BLEND REMAINS  
IN PLACE IN THIS REGION. ELSEWHERE, SIMILAR EVOLUTION WITH THE  
12Z UKMET/CMC/ECWMF/GEFS TO SUPPORT INITIAL PREFERENCE (WITH 12Z  
ECMWF INCLUDED ALONG WESTERN GULF COAST OVER THE 00Z RUN).  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
FOR THE CONUS, THE BROAD CYCLONE ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES  
CONTINUES TO SHIFT NORTHEAST INTO CANADA WITH LITTLE MODEL  
VARIATION, THE UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE TRACKING ALONG THE US/CANADA  
BOARDER HAS COME INTO GOOD AGREEMENT AS WELL, WITH SOME SMALL  
DEPTH, MINOR TIMING DIFFERENCES AS IT BROADENS THE LARGER SCALE  
TROF (WITH THE PRECURSORY SYSTEM) CROSSING NEW ENGLAND INTO  
SUNDAY. AGAIN, HERE THE GUIDANCE IS SOLID ENOUGH FOR A GENERAL  
MODEL BLEND AT ABOVE AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
FURTHER WEST, THE GULF OF ALASKA BROAD CLOSED LOW SWINGS FROM A  
LATITUDINAL ORIENTATION TOWARD A MORE NORTH-SOUTH ONE, STRETCHING  
WITH A BASE SHORTWAVE ENTERING N CA TOWARD LATE SUNDAY EARLY  
MONDAY. ONLY THE UKMET BEING INITIALLY FAST, FAVORING THE  
NORTHERN PORTION OF THE TROF OFFSETS AGAINST THE OTHER GUIDANCE,  
INCLUDING ENSEMBLE SUITE. THIS LOOKS FAIRLY STRAIGHT FORWARD WITH  
SOME CONTINUITY THROUGH THE RECENT ENSEMBLE TRENDS, SO ABOVE  
AVERAGE CONFIDENCE CAN BE HAD WITH THIS NON-UKMET BLEND IN THE  
WEST.  
 
CONVECTIVE COMPLEX OVER THE NORTHERN SIERRA MADRE OCCIDENTAL ON  
FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY, LIFTS SLIGHTLY NORTH AS THE ELONGATED  
SUBTROPICAL RIDGE AT OR ALONG 32N BREAKS DOWN. THE 12Z GFS  
CONTINUES TO BE THE MOST ROBUST WITH THE WAVE, BUT BY SUNDAY,  
OTHER GUIDANCE SUPPORTS THE EVENTUAL UPSCALE GROWTH ACROSS THE  
SOUTHWEST. WHILE, THE GFS WILL REMAIN STRONGER/DEEPER THROUGH THE  
FORECAST PERIOD, BUT GIVEN THE APPROACHING WESTERN TROF, IT ALSO  
LIFTS A BIT FASTER NORTH WITH GREATER MOISTURE FLUX INTO THE GREAT  
BASIN AND MAYBE EVEN THE EASTERN SNAKE RIVER PLAIN BY LATE IN THE  
FORECAST PERIOD. GIVEN THE GFS IS SLIGHTLY FASTER WITH THE  
WESTERN TROF (IN A TYPICAL TIMING DIFFERENCE WITH THE ECMWF/CMC)  
AND SUPPORTED BY THE NAM; WPC WILL EMPLOY A TYPICAL BLEND TO SLOW  
THE GFS AND SPEED UP THE ECMWF/CMC. WHILE THE UKMET, HAS ISSUES  
IN THE NORTHERN STREAM, THIS WAVE IS WELL TIMED AND HAS SIMILAR  
STRENGTH TO THE ECWMF...TO HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE IN USING IT IN THE  
SW.  
 
   
..POTENTIAL TROPICAL CYCLONE NINE
 
 
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PREFERENCE: OFFICIAL NHC FORECAST  
BEST PROXY: NON-NAM OR  
00Z UKMET/ECMWF THRU 15.00Z, 12Z CMC/GFS AFTER  
CONFIDENCE: BELOW AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 12Z UKMET AND ECMWF ARE STEADFAST WAITING FOR  
CONVECTION TO SPUR THE SURFACE WAVE, WHILE CONVECTION IS  
ORGANIZING BETTER NOW, THE DELAY IN DEVELOPMENT SLOWS THE TRACK  
NORTH AND TURNS BACK TOWARD THE SE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE OFFICIAL  
FORECAST TRACK. THE 12Z CMC IS ON THE FLIP-SIDE NOT REALLY  
DEVELOPING THE SURFACE REFLECTION UNTIL 15.00Z NW OF GRAND BAHAMA  
AND TAKES IT NORTH AND ALONG THE OFFICIAL TRACK THE BEST, BUT IS  
VERY WEAK OVERALL, EVEN COMPARED TO THE GFS. SO THERE IS NO BEST  
PROXY TO THE NHC FORECAST, THOUGH IT GETS CLOSEST TO THE 12Z CMC  
AFTER 15.12Z.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
THE APPEARANCE OF PTC NINE CONTINUES TO BE HIGHLY TILTED WITH A  
DEVELOPING MID-LEVEL CIRCULATION FURTHER EAST OF THE BAHAMIAN  
OUTER CHAIN. THE 00Z UKMET/ECMWF CONTINUE TO LATCH ONTO THIS MLC  
AND UTILIZE CONVECTIVE PROCESSES TO STRETCH TO THE SURFACE. THIS  
IS INITIALLY IN LINE WITH THE 15Z OFFICIAL NHC FORECAST. THE 00Z  
CMC CONTINUES TO SUGGEST THE APEX OF THE SURFACE WAVE/SURFACE LOW  
WILL TRACK THROUGH THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS CLOSER TO FL COAST  
REMAINING WEAK. THE 12Z GFS SHIFTED EAST FROM PRIOR RUNS, AND  
LOOKS SIMILAR TO THE CMC...BOTH WEST AND FURTHER FROM THE NHC  
FORECAST AT LEAST INITIALLY (THROUGH 15.12Z) THE 12Z NAM,  
CONTINUES TO BE THE MOST VERTICALLY TITLED, AND SHIFTED WEST  
THROUGH THE SOUTHERN FL PENINSULA WELL AWAY FROM THE OFFICIAL NHC  
FORECAST AND IS DISREGARDED AS A PROXY SOLUTION.  
 
BY 15.12Z, NORTHERN INFLUENCES FROM THE LINGERING FRONTAL ZONE  
COME INTO PLAY AND THE CMC/GFS BOTH INTENSIFY FROM SOME BAROCLINIC  
INFLUENCES AND WHILE STILL LEFT OF THE OFFICIAL TRACK BECOME MUCH  
CLOSER TO IT AFTER 15.12Z EVENTUALLY TURNING EASTWARD...WITH THE  
GFS A TAD STRONGER AND FASTER THAN THE CMC. THE UKMET, ECMWF BOTH  
START MUCH DEEPER AND MORE CONCENTRIC...WHICH GIVEN THE SHEAR  
ENVIRONMENT WOULD SUGGEST A STRONG CONVECTIVE CORE. GIVEN  
UPWELLING FROM DORIAN, THERE IS SUFFICIENT HEAT BUT MAY NOT BE  
ENOUGH TO BE AS STRONG AS THESE GUIDANCE MEMBERS REQUIRE. SO, A  
NON-NAM BLEND IS BEST PROXY OVERALL, BUT STARTING WITH THE 00Z  
ECMWF/UKMET UNTIL ABOUT 16.00Z THEN SHIFTING TOWARD A 00Z CMC/12Z  
GFS AFTERWARD IS LIKELY TO BE A STRONGER PROXY TO THE OFFICIAL  
FORECAST. CONFIDENCE REMAINS SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE IN THIS PROXY  
TO THE NHC FORECAST TRACK GIVEN THE BROAD SPREAD AND CONTINGENCY  
ON PERSISTENT CONVECTIVE PROCESSES TO DEVELOP THE SURFACE LOW.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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