069  
FXUS10 KWNH 151627  
PMDHMD  
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
1226 PM EDT SUN SEP 15 2019  
 
VALID SEP 15/1200 UTC THRU SEP 19/0000 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND FORECAST CONFIDENCE  
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...DEEP LATITUDE WESTERN TROF ENTERING THE WEST BY MONDAY;  
REINFORCED BY CLOSED LOW LATE TUES...  
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PREFERENCE: 12Z GFS AND 00Z ECMWF BLEND FIRST SHORTWAVE;  
NON-UKMET FOR THE SECOND WAVE.  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
MODELS CONTINUE TO AGREE FAIRLY WELL IN THE APPROACH AND ENTRANCE  
OF THE TROF INTO THE WEST COAST/N CA. HOWEVER, BY 48HRS THE  
SPREAD IN THE MODELS MANIFESTS. THE 00Z UKMET, AS IT HAS BEEN FOR  
DAYS, REMAINS FASTEST WITH LITTLE OTHER SUPPORT/REASONS. AS THE  
SHORTWAVE CROSSES THE EASTERN SNAKE RIVER PLAIN, THE 12Z NAM  
BECOMES MORE COMPACT AGAIN AND RAPIDLY DEEPENS FURTHER AS IT  
STRETCHES ACROSS THE ROCKIES INTO EASTERN MT, AND IT CLEARLY IN AN  
UNREALISTIC FEEDBACK DEEPENING THAT THE MODEL HAS A BIAS TOWARD.  
THE 00Z CMC IS NOT TOO POOR, BUT STARTS TO EVEN LAG THE ECMWF  
BECOMING SIGNIFICANT BY 72HRS TO INCLUDE. THERE IS A TYPICAL  
SPREAD BETWEEN SLIGHTLY FASTER 12Z GFS AND 00Z ECMWF THAT HAS SPED  
UP A BIT OVER PRIOR RUNS. AS SUCH, PREFERENCE IS 12Z GFS/00Z  
ECMWF BLEND AT AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
UPSTREAM, THE CLOSED LOW DROPPING INTO THE PACIFIC NW BY LATE  
TUESDAY IS FAIRLY AGREEABLE WITH THE ONLY EXCEPTION BEING THE  
UKMET WHICH AGAIN IS FAST, TOWARD 19.00Z, THE CMC AND ECMWF ARE A  
BIT MORE SHARP WITH INCREASING POSITIVE TILT, BUT THIS DOES NOT  
APPEAR TO BE OUT OF THE REALM OF BEST PROBABILITY GIVEN AVERAGE  
DAY 3 SPREAD. AS SUCH NON-UKMET IS FINE FOR THIS PORTION OF THE  
LARGER SCALE TROF.  
 
...SOUTHWEST SHORTWAVE, MOVING THROUGH CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS INTO  
NORTHERN PLAINS/MN BY TUESDAY...  
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PREFERENCE: 12Z NAM/GFS AND 00Z ECMWF BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
THE 12Z GFS CONTINUES TO BE THE STRONGEST BRINGING THE WAVE  
NORTH-NORTHEAST ACROSS THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES INTO THE CENTRAL HIGH  
PLAINS LATE MONDAY AND UP THROUGH THE NORTHERN RED RIVER VALLEY BY  
TUESDAY. WHILE, IT IS THE STRONGEST IT HAS TRENDED WEAKER THOUGH  
IS STILL A BIT FASTER THAN THE ECMWF/CMC WHICH ARE TYPICAL OF BIAS  
A BIT TOO SLOW. THE FASTER SOLUTION AND EARLIER RETURN OF  
MOISTURE HELPS BREAK OUT CONVECTION EARLIER AS WELL, BUT THIS IS  
SUPPORTED BY THE UKMET/NAM TO HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE ESPECIALLY NOW  
THAT THE MAGNITUDE/COVERAGE IS REDUCED SLIGHTLY. THE 00Z CMC,  
LIKE THE ECMWF IS SLOW, BUT IS ALSO A BIT TOO DRY, FAVORING THE  
APPROACHING WESTERN TROF TO PROVIDE FORCING, SUGGESTING ITS  
REMOVAL OR BLEND REDUCTION WOULD BE BEST. THE 00Z UKMET HAVING  
ISSUES WITH A TOO FAST WESTERN TROF (SEE ABOVE), SO IT IS ALSO NOT  
PREFERRED IN THIS BLEND. SO A GFS/NAM AND 00Z ECMWF BLEND IS  
PREFERRED BUT SPLITTING THE TIMING DIFFERENCES. CONFIDENCE IS  
AVERAGE GIVEN THE MODERATE SPREAD AND INFLUENCE OF THE APPROACHING  
WESTERN TROF.  
 
   
..WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO TUTT/SURFACE WAVE
 
 
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PREFERENCE: 12Z NAM/00Z ECMWF BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
THE TUTT IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE WEST ACROSS THE GULF WITH  
EVENTUAL SUPPORT TO DEVELOP A WEAK SURFACE WAVE NEARING/SOUTHEAST  
OF THE MOUTH OF THE RIO GRANDE MONDAY TO TUESDAY. THE 00Z UKMET  
CONTINUES TO BE STRONGEST, FOLLOWED BY THE 00Z CMC AND SO GREATER  
DEPTH/STEERING DRAWS IT NORTH. THE 00Z ECWMF IS A BIT SLOWER AND  
WEAKER BUT IN LINE WITH THE RECENT FEW NAM RUNS, INCLUDING 12Z.  
THE 12Z GFS IS A BIT STRONGER/SLOWER BUT REMAINS WEAKER AND GIVEN  
DOWNSTREAM WEAKENING ACROSS NW MEXICO, SLIDES MORE WEST THAN OTHER  
GUIDANCE. ALL CONSIDERED A BLEND OF THE 12Z NAM AND 00Z ECMWF IS  
MIDDLE GROUND AND KEEPS WITH CONTINUITY, AND WHILE NOT ALIGNED  
PERFECTLY, OTHER GUIDANCE PROVIDES CONFIDENCE TOWARD THIS BLEND  
AND SO THE PREFERRED BLEND HAS SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
   
..TROPICAL STORM HUMBERTO
 
 
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PREFERENCE: OFFICIAL NHC FORECAST  
BEST PROXY: 06Z GFS/GEFS MEAN AND 00Z ECENS MEAN BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE  
 
HUMBERTO CONTINUES TO STRENGTHEN AND SURROUNDING STEERING  
ENVIRONMENT SUGGESTS A STALLING AND SLOW EXPECTED TURN TOWARD THE  
EAST IS WITHIN THE NEXT DAY. GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SUGGEST A  
SLOWING OVERALL. OVERALL, THE 06Z GFS, GEFS MEAN AND THE 00Z  
ECENS MEAN ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE OFFICIAL NHC FORECAST. THE MAIN  
TAKE AWAY THOUGH, IS THE NEWEST 12Z GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SUPPORT  
A SLOWING IN THE POST-2DAY FORECAST PERIOD WITH GREATER RIDGING  
BUILDING TOWARD THE NORTHEAST. WHILE CLEARLY NOT TO THE MAGNITUDE  
OF THE 00Z CMC THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS SIGNIFICANT SHEARING AND  
SURFACE SLOWING TO THE EAST WITH MEDIUM RANGE SUGGESTING A TURN  
BACK WEST. THERE ARE ABOUT 10-15% OF THE ECENS MEMBERS THAT ALSO  
SUGGEST THIS EVENTUAL STALL DUE TO THE DEVELOPING BLOCK. SO THERE  
IS STILL MODEST UNCERTAINTY AT 60-84HR PERIOD AND BEYOND. THE 00Z  
ECMWF AND 12Z GFS ARE TIGHTLY PACKED NOW WITH THE 12Z NAM VERY  
CLOSE ALL ABOUT 12HRS SLOW AND SLIGHTLY SOUTH OF THE OFFICIAL  
TRACK, SO BEST PROXY TO THE 15Z NHC FORECAST IS THE 06Z GFS/GEFS  
MEAN AND 00Z ECENS MEAN.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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