894  
FXUS10 KWNH 160443  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
1242 AM EDT MON SEP 16 2019  
 
VALID SEP 16/0000 UTC THRU SEP 19/1200 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
00Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND FORECAST CONFIDENCE  
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...DEEP LATITUDE WESTERN TROF ENTERING THE WEST; REINFORCED BY  
CLOSED LOW LATE TUES...  
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND FIRST SHORTWAVE; NON-CMC SECOND  
SHORTWAVE  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE THAT A PAIR OF  
SHORTWAVES WILL WORK THROUGH THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND INTO THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES AND NORTHERN PLAINS DURING THE FORECAST PERIOD.  
FIRST SHORTWAVE THAT IS CURRENTLY MOVING ONSHORE THE WEST COAST  
WILL ROTATE QUICKLY INTO MONTANA AND NORTH DAKOTA BY DAY 2. HERE,  
EARLIER DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE UKMET AND THE REST OF THE  
GUIDANCE WITH RESPECT TO THE SPEED HAVE MOSTLY BEEN RESOLVED. THE  
UKMET MIGHT REMAIN A BIT FASTER THAN THE OTHERS, BUT A GENERAL  
MODEL BLEND SHOULD PROVIDE A REASONABLE SOLUTION. THE SECONDARY  
SHORTWAVE THAT THEN DROPS INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST BY DAY 2/3 IS  
FAIRLY AGREED ON. THE ONE EXCEPTION WOULD BE THE 12Z CMC, WHICH IS  
TOO FAR SOUTH AND AMPLIFIED WITH THE CLOSED LOW, AS IT TAKES IT  
INTO NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. MEANWHILE, THE REST OF THE GUIDANCE IS  
NORTH ACROSS OREGON AND MORE POSITIVELY TITLED.  
 
...SOUTHWEST SHORTWAVE, MOVING THROUGH CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS INTO  
NORTHERN PLAINS/MN BY TUESDAY...  
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
WEAK SHORTWAVE OVER THE FOUR CORNERS REGION CURRENTLY SEEN IN  
WATER VAPOR IMAGERY WILL CONTINUE TO DRIFT NORTH/NORTHEAST OVER  
THE FORECAST PERIOD AND GRADUALLY BECOME ABSORBED INTO THE LARGE  
SCALE TROUGHING OVER THE WESTERN US. THE SHORTWAVE IS EXPECTED TO  
REACH THE CENTRAL PLAINS LATE MONDAY AND THEN INTO THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS AND UPPER MIDWEST BY TUESDAY. THE VARIOUS DETERMINISTIC  
MODELS OFFER FAIRLY SIMILAR SOLUTIONS WITH JUST SLIGHTLY VARYING  
DEGREES OF STRENGTH AND TIMING (CMC A BIT FAST; ECMWF  
SLOWER/WEST). OVERALL, A GENERAL MODEL BLEND IS PREFERRED.  
 
   
..GULF OF MEXICO TROPICAL WAVE
 
 
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PREFERENCE: 2/3RD UKMET, 1/3RD GFS BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE TO SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE  
 
GUIDANCE HAS COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT THAT A WEAK SURFACE WAVE  
MOVING WESTWARD OVER THE CENTRAL/WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO WILL  
GRADUALLY TAKE ON BETTER ORGANIZATION IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS AS IT  
APPROACHES THE TEXAS GULF COAST. THE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE  
LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL SOMEWHERE ALONG THE COAST BY DAY 3.  
GUIDANCE HAS SOME LATITUDINAL DIFFERENCES BUT FOR NOW, A CONSENSUS  
OF THE GFS AND UKMET (WITH MORE INCLUSION OF THE UKMET BY DAY 3)  
IS PREFERRED. FORECAST CONFIDENCE IS AVERAGE AT FIRST, THEN DROPS  
TO SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE BY DAY 3.  
 
   
..HURRICANE HUMBERTO
 
 
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PREFERENCE: OFFICIAL NHC FORECAST  
BEST PROXY: 18Z GFS  
CONFIDENCE: BELOW AVERAGE  
 
HURRICANE HUMBERTO CONTINUES TO STRENGTHEN GIVEN WARM WATERS AND  
FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS. ITS SLOW MOTION HAS TAKEN A  
GRADUAL NORTH/NORTHEAST DIRECTION AND THIS IS EXPECTED OVER THE  
NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. THE LATEST GUIDANCE IS IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT  
WITH THE OFFICIAL NHC ADVISORY TRACK THROUGH ABOUT 24-36 HOURS,  
BUT BEYOND THAT, THERE IS SIZABLE SPREAD IN THE LATEST MODEL  
GUIDANCE. THE NAM AND UKMET ARE THE FASTER SOLUTIONS, AS HUMBERTO  
GETS PICKED UP IN THE APPROACHING MID-LATITUDE TROUGH EARLIER.  
MEANWHILE, THE CMC/ECMWF STALL THE SYSTEM MUCH LONGER AND  
THEREFORE ARE THE SLOWEST AND FURTHER SOUTH SOLUTIONS BY DAY 3.  
FOR THIS CYCLE, THE GFS IS THE BEST PROXY FOR THE TRACK THROUGH  
THE ENTIRE FORECAST PERIOD, ALTHOUGH THERE REMAINS SOME DEVIATIONS  
FROM THE LATEST OFFICIAL NHC TRACK. IN GENERAL, FORECAST  
CONFIDENCE DROPS OFF CONSIDERABLY BEYOND 36-48 HOURS.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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