297  
FXUS10 KWNH 161838  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
237 PM EDT MON SEP 16 2019  
 
VALID SEP 16/1200 UTC THRU SEP 20/0000 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z GUIDANCE EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND FORECAST CONFIDENCE  
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...FULL LATITUDE WESTERN TROUGH OVER THE WEST AND REINFORCING  
TROUGH THU...  
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
THE 12Z NAM AND 12Z GFS ARE CLOSE TO THE CONSENSUS WITH THE  
STRENGTH AND TIMING AS IT WEAKENS AND TAKES ON A NEGATIVE TILT  
ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES AND NORTHERN PLAINS AFTER 12Z TUE.  
THESE MODEL ARE ALSO CLOSE TO THE CONSENSUS TAKING THE CLOSED MID  
LEVEL OVER THE GULF OF ALASKA AND DROPPING IT TO A POSITION NEAR  
VANCOUVER ISLAND BY 00Z WED. BEYOND THAT TIME, THERE IS GOOD MODEL  
AGREEMENT DEVELOPING ANOTHER FULL LATITUDE TROUGH ACROSS THE  
NORTHERN ROCKIES INTO THE GREAT BASIN.  
 
...SHORT WAVE OVER CO CROSSING THE CENTRAL PLAINS BEFORE MOVING  
OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS TUE  
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND THROUGH 60 HOURS; NON-NAM AFTER  
THAT  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
THE 12Z NAM AND 12Z GFS ARE CLOSE TO THE CONSENSUS TAKING THE  
SHORT WAVE OVER CO THIS AFTERNOON AND TRACKING IT INTO THE  
NORTHERN PLAINS AND UPPER MS VALLEY BY 18/12Z. AFTER THAT TIME,  
THE 12Z NAM RETAINS A CLOSED LOW FEATURE LONGER THAN THE REST OF  
THE GUIDANCE, CAUSING IT TO BECOME SLOWER THAN THE CONSENSUS OVER  
ONTARIO. THE 12Z NON-NCEP GUIDANCE IS IN LINE WITH THE 12Z GFS,  
RESULTING IN THE 12Z NAM BEING LEFT OUT OF THE PREFERRED BLEND.  
 
   
..GULF OF MEXICO TROPICAL WAVE  
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND THROUGH 19/00Z: 12Z NAM/12Z UKMET  
THEREAFTER  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE THROUGH 19/00Z, BELOW AVERAGE AFTER THAT TIME  
 
THE 12Z NAM IS CLOSE TO THE CONSENSUS THROUGH 19/00Z, AS THERE IS  
BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE TRACK OF THE MID LEVEL SYSTEM AND  
SURFACE LOW ASSOCIATED WITH THE TROPICAL WAVE OVER THE WESTERN  
GULF OF MEXICO THIS AFTERNOON. AFTER THAT TIME, THERE IS STILL  
REASONABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE MID LEVEL SYSTEM OVER SOUTHEAST TX.  
HOWEVER, THERE IS CONSIDERABLY MORE SPREAD WITH RESPECT TO THE  
TRACK OF THE SURFACE LOW. THE 12Z NAM IS CLOSE TO THE 12Z UKMET  
(WHICH HAS BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH ITS TRACK OF THE SURFACE  
LOW OVER THE PAST THREE MODEL RUNS) THROUGH 20/00Z.  
 
THE 12Z GFS/12Z ECMWF ARE MUCH FURTHER WEST WITH THE SURFACE LOW,  
WINDING UP CLOSER TO THE RIO GRANDE RIVER IN THE FORM OF AN  
ELONGATED SURFACE TROUGH. MANY OF THE 00Z ECMWF/CMC ENSEMBLE  
MEMBERS ARE CLOSE ACROSS THE UPPER TX COAST THROUGH 19/00Z, WHICH  
LENDS SOME CREDENCE TO THE 12Z NAM/12Z UKMET PLACEMENT. AFTER THAT  
TIME, THE 00Z ECMWF/CMC MEMBERS SPREAD OUT ACROSS EASTERN TX.  
 
BASED ON THIS, THE 12Z NAM/12Z UKMET ARE PREFERRED WITH THE TRACK  
OF THE SURFACE LOW, THOUGH CONFIDENCE IS BELOW AVERAGE, ESPECIALLY  
AFTER 19/00Z.  
 
   
..HURRICANE HUMBERTO  
 
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PREFERENCE: OFFICIAL NHC FORECAST  
BEST PROXY: ECMWF/GFS  
CONFIDENCE: BELOW AVERAGE  
 
THE 12Z NAM CONTINUES TO BE FASTER THAN THE LATEST NHC FORECAST  
(AS DOES THE 00Z CMC). THE 12Z GFS IS CLOSE TO THE TRACK AND THE  
12Z ECMWF THROUGH 19/00Z, AHEAD OF A LONG WAVE TROUGH CROSSING THE  
MID ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST. AFTER THAT TIME, THERE IS INCREASING  
SPREAD CONCERNING QUICKLY THE MID LEVEL SYSTEM CLOSES OFF, AND HOW  
THIS AFFECTS ANY SLOWING OF THE SURFACE SYSTEM. THIS RESULTS IN  
GRADUALLY DECREASING CONFIDENCE IN THE TIMING AFTER 19/00Z.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
HAYES  
 
 
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