863  
FXUS10 KWNH 090656  
PMDHMD  
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
255 AM EDT WED OCT 09 2019  
 
VALID OCT 09/0000 UTC THRU OCT 12/1200 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
09/00Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND FORECAST CONFIDENCE  
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..ENERGY AMPLIFYING OVER CENTRAL APPALACHIANS/MID-ATLANTIC
 
   
..DEEPENING SURFACE LOW PRESSURE OFF THE EAST COAST
 
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND UNTIL 12.00Z (NON-NAM THEREAFTER)  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
07Z: THE 00Z ECMWF/CMC BOTH SHOW A GREATER CYCLONIC LOOP WITH THE  
OCCLUDED LOW AND THE UKMET BACKED OFF SLIGHTLY TO JOIN THE  
ECMWF/CMC. THIS PLACES THE GFS A BIT OUTSIDE OF THE STRONGER  
DETERMINISTIC CLUSTER, BUT GIVEN ECENS AND 00Z GEFS SOLUTIONS,  
THINK THE INITIAL PREFERENCE OF A GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
 
THE 00Z GUIDANCE HAS NOT VARIED MUCH IN THE SHORT-TERM WITH THE  
EVOLUTION OF THE DEEP OCCLUDED LOW SOUTHEAST OF LONG ISLAND. THIS  
IS A SLIGHT SOUTHEAST SHIFT OVER THE 24HR PERIOD, BUT THERE IS  
MUCH STRONGER AGREEMENT IN THE PLACEMENT/DEPTH OF THE SMALLER  
SCALE FEATURES TO BUILD GREATER CONFIDENCE. AS THE CYCLONE  
MATURES AND BREAKS DOWN, THE 00Z NAM BREAKS FROM CONSENSUS LIFTING  
NORTH TOWARD NANTUCKET ISLAND. THE 00Z GFS, ALONG WITH THE 12Z  
UKMET ARE STRONGER WITH A SECONDARY CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT AT THE  
TRIPLE POINT, BUT OVERALL A NON-NAM BLEND IS SUPPORTED AT SLIGHTLY  
ABOVE AVERAGE CONFIDENCE MAINLY AFTER 12.00Z (WITH GENERAL MODEL  
BLEND SUPPORTED BEFORE).  
 
   
..DEEP UPPER TROUGH/CLOSED LOW AMPLIFYING OVER THE WEST
 
   
..HIGH PLAINS CYCLOGENESIS
 
 
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PREFERENCE: NON-GFS BLEND (MAINLY AFTER 11.12Z)  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE TO ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
07Z UPDATE: A VERY SMALL ADJUSTMENT NORTH OF THE 00Z ECMWF/CMC,  
PLACES THE 00Z UKMET A BIT FURTHER OUTSIDE OF THE STRONGER  
CONSENSUS. STILL, GIVEN THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE TREND,  
THINK THE INITIAL NON-GFS PREFERENCE IS SOLID AFTER 11.12Z.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
MODELS SHOW VERY GOOD TIMING IN THE LARGE SCALE WITH THE EVOLUTION  
OF THE DEEP CLOSED CYCLONE IN THE CENTRAL PLAINS. THE 00Z GFS,  
MUCH LIKE THE 18Z GFS, CONTINUES TO HINT AT A SLIGHTLY INCREASED  
SPLIT BETWEEN THE POLAR AND SUBTROPICAL JET, MIDDAY FRI WHICH  
LEADS TO AN OFF-BALANCE DOWNSTREAM DEVELOPMENT LATER FRIDAY INTO  
SAT. AS SUCH THE, GFS IS A BIT SLOWER AND THEREFORE SOUTH WITH  
THE SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS AND GREATER NEGATIVE TILT TO THE  
UPPER-LEVEL CLOSED LOW. THE 12Z UKMET SHOWS GREATER NEGATIVE TILT  
THAT THE ECMWF/CMC AND 00Z NAM, BUT THE OVERALL TIMING/PLACEMENT  
OF THE FRONTAL ZONE AND QPF ARE MORE IN THE VEIN OF THE LATTER,  
MAKING THE GFS THE SOLID OUTLIER. AS SUCH WILL PREFER A NON-GFS  
BLEND AT SLIGHTLY ABOVE TO ABOVE AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
...APPROACHING PACIFIC SHORTWAVE TROUGH WITH ATTENDANT SURFACE  
WAVE AND FRONT BY SAT...  
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PREFERENCE: NON-NAM BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
07Z UPDATE: THE CMC SLOWED A TAD TO MATCH THE WEAKER BUT FASTER  
GFS BUT THE ECMWF HAS TRENDED A BIT WEAKER AND FASTER TOO, MAKING  
THE NAM STICK OUT A BIT TOO MUCH. SIGNIFICANT WEAKENING OF THE  
UKMET ALL SUGGESTS A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT TO SUPPORT A NON-NAM BLEND  
WORKS AS IT APPROACHES THE NORTHWEST COAST AT THE END OF DAY 3.  
CONFIDENCE REMAINS AVERAGE IN THIS NON-NAM BLEND.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
AN ELONGATED TROF ADVANCES ACROSS THE GULF OF AK FRI WITH GOOD  
AGREEMENT. HOWEVER, A BREAK DOWN PHASE IN THE TROUGH OCCURS  
THEREAFTER; WHERE INCREASED SHEARING BETWEEN THE NORTHERN AND  
MIDDLE PACIFIC STREAMS, LEADS TO SOME AMPLIFICATION OF THE BASE OF  
THE TROF. THE 00Z GFS, TYPICAL OF A POTENTIAL NEWER BIAS, IS  
GENERALLY WEAKER AND LESS APT TOWARD SOME AMPLIFICATION, BUT HAS  
GOOD TIMING WITHIN THE ENSEMBLE SUITE. THE 00Z NAM AND 12Z ECMWF  
AND CMC, ALL SUGGEST A MORE SENSIBLE SMALLER COMPACT WAVE TO FORM;  
HOWEVER, THE CMC IS UNCHARACTERISTICALLY ADVANCING TOWARD  
VANCOUVER ISLAND, EARLY SAT AND SO IS NOT FAVORED AT THIS TIME.  
THE 12 UKMET IS VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH THE CYCLOGENESIS AND IS NOT  
PREFERRED. AS SUCH A 00Z NAM/12Z ECMWF BLEND IS PREFERRED WITH  
SOME INCLUSION (AT LOWER WEIGHTING) OF THE 00Z GFS  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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