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FXUS10 KWNH 151832  
PMDHMD  
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
232 PM EDT TUE OCT 15 2019  
 
VALID OCT 15/1200 UTC THRU OCT 19/0000 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH LATEST PREFERENCES AND CONFIDENCE  
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GREAT LAKES CLOSED LOW AND DEVELOPING NORTHEAST COASTAL SURFACE LOW  
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND THRU 17.12Z  
NON-NAM WEIGHTING TOWARD 12Z ECMWF/GFS THEREAFTER  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE THRU 17.12Z...AVERAGE AFTER  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 12Z UKMET/CMC HELD FAIRLY SOLID CONSISTENCY WITH  
THEIR PRIOR RUNS AND THE INITIAL PREFERENCE; HOWEVER, THE 12Z  
ECMWF SHIFTED A BIT MORE TOWARD THE 12Z GFS SUPPORTING A WEAKER  
MID-ATLANTIC SURFACE LOW IN FAVOR OF THE COASTAL CAROLINA LOW, AS  
IT LIFTS NORTH AS THE NEW TRIPLE POINT (PRESSING THE WARM CONVEYOR  
BELT FURTHER OFFSHORE) AND THE DEFORMATION ZONE A BIT FURTHER EAST  
THROUGH NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND. THE 12Z GEFS CONTINUES TO SHOW A  
MODERATE SPREAD AFTER 12Z IN TRYING TO HANDLE WHICH SURFACE WAVE  
WILL DOMINATE IN THE DEEPENING ALONG THE NORTHEAST COAST. ALL IN  
ALL, THE SPREAD IS MINOR WITH THIS SLIGHT EVOLUTION DIFFERENCE AND  
THE SENSIBLE WEATHER IMPACTS FURTHER SUPPORT REDUCED PROBABILITY  
OF THE NAM COMING TO FRUITION. AS SUCH A NON-NAM BLEND IS  
SUPPORTED AFTER 17.12Z AT AVERAGE CONFIDENCE, WEIGHTING MORE TO  
THE ECMWF/GFS GIVEN BETTER ALIGNMENT IN THE SMALLER SCALES.  
 
NOTE: FOR CLARIFICATION, RECORD FOR LOW PRESSURE ARE FOR  
NON-TROPICAL CYCLONE PRESSURES IN OCTOBER...POST-TROPICAL SANDY IS  
INCLUDED IN THIS DATABASE, SO RECORDS ACROSS THE LOWER HUDSON AND  
MID-ATLANTIC ARE AT MUCH LOWER RISK OF BEING BROKEN...PLEASE SEE  
WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/RESEARCH/ROTH/SLPRECORDS.HTML .  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
CURRENTLY AN AMPLIFYING CLOSED LOW IS TRACKING INTO THE GREAT  
LAKES WITH A NORTHERLY JET STREAK DESCENDING THE WESTERN SIDE  
ALONG WITH STRONG BUT RELATIVELY FLAT SUBTROPICAL JET CROSSING THE  
TN VALLEY. AS THE NORTHERN STREAM JET ROUNDS THE BASE, THE  
SUBTROPICAL JET STREAM SUPPORTS AN INCREASING DIFFLUENT PATTERN  
OVER THE MID-ATLANTIC TO SUPPORT RAPID SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS LATE  
WED INTO THURSDAY MORNING. STRONG WARM CONVEYOR BELT ENHANCED BY  
THE GULF STREAM AND CONVECTION WILL ACCELERATE AND FURTHER DEEPEN  
THE LOW ACROSS LONG ISLAND INTO NEW ENGLAND, POTENTIALLY REACHING  
RECORD LOW PRESSURE VALUES FOR OCTOBER PARTICULARLY ACROSS SE NEW  
ENGLAND. GUIDANCE IS IN FAIRLY SOLID AGREEMENT THROUGH THIS TIME  
PERIOD (17.12Z) TO SUPPORT A GENERAL MODEL BLEND AT SLIGHTLY ABOVE  
AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
AFTER 17.12Z, THE LATENT HEAT RELEASE, RAPID DEEPENING IS HANDLED  
DIFFERENTLY IN THE TRANSFER OF THE CLOSED LOW ENERGY OUT OF THE  
GREAT LAKES INTO THE COASTAL SYSTEM. THE 12Z NAM CONTINUES TO  
SHOW THE MOST VERTICALLY STACKED AND DEEPEST SOLUTION, WHICH MAY  
BE RELATED TO BETTER HIGHER RESOLUTION OF WARM GULF STREAM AIR,  
BUT THIS VERY STRONG SIGNAL DEPARTS RAPIDLY FROM THE OTHER  
GUIDANCE MEMBERS AND ENSEMBLE SUITE/TREND, LEAVING IT OUT OF THE  
PREFERENCE QUICKLY (YET MAY NOT BE FULLY UNREALISTIC). THE GFS  
WHICH HAS BEEN TYPICALLY WEAK, HAS TRENDED A BIT DEEPER AND SHOWS  
A STALLING OVER SE NEW ENGLAND LIKE THE ECMWF/UKMET/CMC SOLUTIONS,  
BUT WHILE THE MASS FIELDS ALOFT TRANSLATE NORTHEAST INTO SE CANADA  
IN LINE WITH OTHER GUIDANCE, THE GFS CONTINUES TO SUPPORT A  
SURFACE WAVE THROUGH THE GULF OF MAINE AND NOVA SCOTIA WELL ON THE  
EASTERN SIDE OF THE ENSEMBLE SUITE. THE GEFS MEAN, HELPS TO  
ADJUST FOR THE OPERATIONAL RUN, BUT THE MODERATE SPREAD IN THE  
SUITE DENOTES THE GFS OVERALL UNCERTAINTY AFTER THIS POINT. THE  
ECMWF/ECENS SHOW MODERATE SPREAD OF SOLUTIONS A BIT LATER IN THE  
FORECAST PERIOD FURTHER INTO CANADA AND HAVE SUPPORT OF THE  
CMC/CMCE AND UKMET. AS SUCH A NON-NAM BLEND IS SUPPORTED AFTER  
17.12Z, WITH MORE GEFS THAN GFS IN THE WEIGHTING. CONFIDENCE IS  
AVERAGE AFTER 17.12Z.  
 
SHORT WAVE ENERGY AFFECTING TEXAS THROUGH MIDWEEK SHEARING THRU  
EASTERN GULF STATES BY FRI  
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PREFERENCE: 12Z NAM/CMC/UKMET BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 12Z CMC/UKMET TRENDED A BIT SLOWER AND THEREFORE  
WEST, BUT STILL NOT AS SLOW/WEAK IN THE TX SHORTWAVE AS THE 12Z  
ECMWF WHICH CONTINUES TO LAG. AS SUCH WILL CONTINUE TO FAVOR A  
12Z NAM/CMC/UKMET BLEND.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
GOES-WV SUITE DENOTES A POSITIVE-TILT TROF ACROSS THE DESERT  
SOUTHWEST OF E AZ, W NM, WITH A WEAK CONNECTION TO THE NORTHERN  
STREAM ACROSS THE TX PANHANDLE, THAT CONTINUES TO SEVER WITH TIME.  
EVENTUALLY (EARLY WED), THE REMAINING SHORTWAVE ENERGY STALLS IN  
IN WESTERN TX/BIG BEND REGION, WITH THE GFS SHOWING TYPICAL  
FAST(EASTWARD) BIAS WITHIN THE OVERALL SUITE. BY LATE THURSDAY,  
THE COMPACT WAVE WILL LIFT SHORTWAVE ENERGY OUT OF THE TROPICS  
ALONG THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE ACROSS THE SE  
GULF/CUBA. THIS WILL SUPPORT INCREASED CONVECTION AND WEAK LOWER  
LEVEL WAVE DEVELOPMENT WITH WEAK SURFACE WAVE IN THE CENTRAL GULF  
BY 84HRS. THE GFS BEING EAST, LIFTS THE TROPICAL SHORTWAVE  
ENERGY NORTH AND INTO THE COASTAL LOUISIANA, WHILE THE  
NAM/CMC/UKMET ARE MORE FLAT/SHEARED INTO THE MORE CONFLUENT FLOW  
IN THE EASTERN GULF. THE ECMWF SHOWS TYPICAL SLOW PROGRESSION  
WITH EVENTUALLY WEAKENING THE SHORTWAVE TOO MUCH ALLOWING FOR THE  
SURFACE WAVE/CONVECTION TOO FAR WEST IN THE SUITE BY THE END OF  
THE FORECAST PERIOD. AS SUCH WILL FAVOR A 12Z NAM AND 00Z  
UKMET/CMC BLEND AT AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
WESTERN U.S. LONGWAVE TROUGH (WED-THURS) SHIFTS INTO ROCKIES WITH  
NORTHERN PLAINS CYCLOGENESIS THURS INTO FRI  
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 12Z CMC/ECMWF SHOW SIMILAR EVOLUTION AND  
PROGRESSION OF THE TROF WITH THE GFS/NAM, PRIOR PREFERENCE.  
HOWEVER, THE 12Z UKMET SHIFTED MORE ENERGY FURTHER SOUTH IN THE  
LONG-WAVE TROF, WEAKENING THE ENERGY CROSSING THE NORTHERN HIGH  
PLAINS, LEADING IT TO OUTPACE THE OTHER GUIDANCE AFTER CROSSING  
THE CONTINENTAL DIVIDE 18.00Z, WHILE ALSO SUPPORTING A STRONGER  
BASE TO THE TROF THROUGH THE LOWER COLORADO BEFORE ACCELERATING  
INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS BY 00Z SAT. AS SUCH A NON-UKMET BLEND IS  
SUPPORT AT SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE CONFIDENCE.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
GULF OF ALASKA WAVE WILL PROGRESS TO THE PERSISTENT RIDGE ACROSS  
THE WEST, SLOWLY BREAKING IT DOWN. WHILE THE MAIN INNER CORE OF  
THE SHORTWAVE BREAKS DOWN AND LIFTS NORTH INTO THE PANHANDLE OF  
AK, THE REMAINING LONG-WAVE TROF CONTINUES TO PRESS EASTWARD UNDER  
THE INFLUENCE OF STRENGTHENING BROAD BUT FLAT PACIFIC FLOW  
UPSTREAM. THIS ALLOWS FOR A CONSTANT EASTWARD PROGRESSION THROUGH  
THE ROCKIES BY LATE THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY; SUPPORTING NORTHERN  
PLAINS CYCLOGENESIS. THE GUIDANCE HAS BEEN VERY PERSISTENT AND  
MILDLY AGREED UPON, WITH ONLY TYPICAL TIMING BIAS NOTED...IE  
GFS/NAM AND UKMET A BIT FAST THE CMC/ECMWF SLOW. THIS TIMING ALSO  
SUPPORTS A BIT MORE CURVATURE TO THE BASE OF THE TROF ACROSS THE  
FOUR CORNERS INTO THE CENTRAL ROCKIES BY 84HRS, COMPARED TO THE  
ECMWF/CMC BEING A BIT MORE SHARP AND SOUTH. OVERALL, THIS IS A  
FAVORABLE SETUP/EVOLUTION FOR A GENERAL MODEL BLEND, MAINLY TO  
SLOW THE FAST GUIDANCE, AND SPEED UP THE SLOW ONES. CONFIDENCE  
IS SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE IN THIS BLEND.  
 
PACIFIC NORTHWEST REINFORCING SHORTWAVE LATE THURS INTO FRI WITH  
BROAD/STRONG WESTERLY PACIFIC JET THEREAFTER  
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PREFERENCE: NON-UKMET BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: BOTH THE UKMET AND ECMWF TRENDED A BIT WEAKER WITH  
THEIR REINFORCING SHORTWAVE ENTERING THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THIS  
PUT THE ECMWF IN BETTER TIMING/STRENGTH WITH THE GFS/NAM/CMC AND  
THEREFORE TIGHTENED THE OVERALL BLEND AND THE UKMET BEING STILL  
TOO STRONG (AND TOO FAST WITH THE PRECEDING WAVE), SUGGESTS A  
CONTINUATION OF A NON-UKMET BLEND AT SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
CONFIDENCE.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
IN THE WAKE OF THE INITIAL LONGWAVE HEIGHT-FALLS, A FAST/ZONAL AND  
STORMY FLOW WILL SETUP WITH NEARLY ALL GUIDANCE DEVELOPING A  
BROAD, FLAT 140-150 25H JET ACROSS THE NORTHERN PACIFIC BY THE END  
OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. AT THE NOSE OF THE JET, A WAVE WILL TRACK  
INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST LATE THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY, THE ECMWF,  
BEING SLOW WITH THE INITIAL HEIGHT-FALLS SEES A SLIGHTLY FASTER  
SOLUTION THAN THE GFS/NAM WITH A GREATER NEGATIVE TILT. THIS IS  
NOT TOO OUT OF PHASE/AMPLIFICATION WITH THE GFS/NAM/CMC TO SUGGEST  
KEEPING IT IN THE PREFERENCE. HOWEVER, THE 00Z UKMET IS EXTREMELY  
OVER-AMPLIFIED, THOUGH IT THE CORRECT POSITION, THIS LOOKS LIKE A  
TYPICAL NEGATIVE OVER-AMPLIFICATION BIAS NOTED WITH THE UKMET AND  
SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE PREFERENCE AT THIS TIME.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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