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FXUS10 KWNH 190654  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
253 AM EDT SAT OCT 19 2019  
 
VALID OCT 19/0000 UTC THRU OCT 22/1200 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
00Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND CONFIDENCE  
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NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVES ENTERING THE WEST EJECTING INTO  
NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN PLAINS...  
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND THROUGH 48 HOURS;  
NON-CMC AFTER  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
07Z UPDATE: THE 00Z CMC CONTINUES TO BE TOO DEEP/CLOSED OFF TO THE  
SOUTH COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE GUIDANCE. THE 00Z ECMWF/UKMET  
DID TREND TOWARD THE 00Z GFS SOMEWHAT, SHOWING A STRONGER SYSTEM  
CLOSING OFF OVER WY ON SUNDAY. FOR THE SURFACE LOW TRACK AND  
DEPTH, THERE IS NOW FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT (OUTSIDE OF THE CMC).  
THE PREFERRED BLEND IS ADJUSTED TO BE A NON-CMC BLEND, WITH  
HEAVIER WEIGHT TOWARD THE ECMWF/UKMET/GFS.  
 
---PREVIOUS DISCUSSION---  
LATEST WATER VAPOR IMAGERY AND 500 MB HEIGHTS SHOWED TROUGHING  
ACROSS THE ROCKIES ABOUT TO MOVE INTO THE PLAINS STATES TONIGHT  
WHILE UPSTREAM, A STRONGER, MORE COMPACT SHORTWAVE ALONG THE  
CYCLONIC ROTOR OF A VERY STRONG/BROAD PACIFIC JET, WILL BEGIN TO  
APPROACH THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST BY MORNING. THE LEADING  
TROUGH IS WELL REPRESENTED BY THE MOST RECENT MODEL GUIDANCE AND  
CAN BE HANDLED WITH A GENERAL MODEL BLEND THROUGH 48 HOURS.  
 
THE STRONGER SHORTWAVE UPSTREAM IS LIKELY TO BECOME NEGATIVELY  
TILTED AS IT CROSSES THE CENTRAL/NORTHERN ROCKIES AND COULD CLOSE  
OFF AS IT MOVES INTO THE CENTRAL/NORTHERN PLAINS STATES. THE GFS  
REMAINS THE FASTEST SOLUTION AND THEREFORE CLOSES OFF 6-12 HOURS  
AHEAD OF THE OTHER GUIDANCE. IT IS ALSO FURTHER NORTH COMPARED TO  
THE NON-NCEP GUIDANCE (CMC IS THE FURTHEST SOUTH). THE 12Z CMC  
BECOMES A BIT TOO AMPLIFIED BY THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD,  
SUCH THAT IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE TOSSED OUT FOR THE MASS FIELDS.  
THE ECMWF IS A DECENT COMPROMISE AND FOLLOWS ALONG THE MODEL  
CONSENSUS THROUGH THE 3 DAYS. THE 18Z GEFS  
 
VORTICAL STRETCHING COMBINED WITH THE FAVORABLE UPPER LEVEL  
PATTERN WILL INDUCE RAPID SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS THAT WILL DEEPEN AS  
IT APPROACHES THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY. THE NAM/GFS ARE  
ON THE NORTHERN END OF THE MODEL ENVELOPE WHILE THE CMC IS THE  
FURTHEST SOUTH. THE ECMWF/UKMET LIE IN BETWEEN AND AGREE WITH THE  
MOST RECENT ECENS/GEFS MEANS AS WELL. WITH THAT IN MIND, WILL  
PREFER THE 12Z ECMWF/UKMET ALONG WITH THE 12Z ECENS AND 18Z GEFS  
MEANS, ESPECIALLY BEYOND 48 HOURS.  
 
TROPICAL STORM NESTOR  
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PREFERENCE: SEE LATEST NHC ADVISORY  
BEST PROXY: 00Z GFS THROUGH 20.00Z; 12Z ECMWF/UKMET AFTER  
 
FAIRLY TIGHT CLUSTERING AND ABOVE AVERAGE AGREEMENT WITH THE  
INITIALIZATION OF THE INCOMING 00Z GUIDANCE FOR T.S. NESTOR AS IT  
TURNS NORTH/NORTHEAST TOWARD THE FL PANHANDLE. THROUGH 20.00Z  
THERE IS LITTLE SPREAD WITH THE LOW TRACK, THOUGH THE LATEST (00Z)  
GFS DOES HAVE THE BEST PROXY TO THE OFFICIAL NHC ADVISORY TRACK  
FROM 03Z. BEYOND THAT TIME-FRAME, THE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO MOVE  
OFF THE NC COAST BETWEEN 20.12Z AND 21.00Z, AND MODEL GUIDANCE  
DOES BEGIN TO DIVERGE. THE 00Z NAM IS THE GENERALLY WEST OF THE  
OFFICIAL TRACK THROUGH THE NEXT 2-2.5 DAYS AND IS CONSIDERED  
MOSTLY AN OUTLIER. THE REST OF THE GUIDANCE IS IN REASONABLE  
AGREEMENT, THOUGH THE ECMWF/UKMET SEEM TO OFFER THE BEST PROXIES  
TO THE OFFICIAL TRACK AND HAVE THE BEST CONTINUITY FROM PREVIOUS  
FORECASTS AS WELL.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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