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FXUS10 KWNH 240450  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
1250 AM EDT THU OCT 24 2019  
 
VALID OCT 24/0000 UTC THRU OCT 27/1200 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
00Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH LATEST PREFERENCES AND CONFIDENCE  
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..INITIAL TROUGH OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES  
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
AN INITIAL UPPER TROUGH OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST WILL CROSS THE  
GREAT LAKES REGION ON THURSDAY AND DAMPEN OUT BY FRIDAY AS THE  
ENERGY SHEARS NORTHEAST INTO SOUTHEAST CANADA. THE MODELS ARE IN  
VERY GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE DETAILS OF THIS SYSTEM, AND SO A  
GENERAL MODEL BLEND WILL BE PREFERRED.  
 
   
..SECONDARY TROUGH OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES ON FRI  
 
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PREFERENCE: BLEND OF THE 00Z NAM/12Z CMC AND 12Z ECMWF  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
A SECONDARY SHORTWAVE TROUGH CLIPPING THE NORTHERN PLAINS BY LATER  
THURSDAY WILL CROSS THE THE UPPER MIDWEST THURSDAY NIGHT AND CROSS  
THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES ON FRIDAY, BEFORE THEN ADVANCING EAST OVER  
THE NORTHEAST BY SATURDAY. THE 00Z GFS IS A BIT OF A PROGRESSIVE  
OUTLIER WITH THE SYSTEM, WHEREAS THE 12Z UKMET GRADUALLY BECOMES  
THE SLOWEST SOLUTION. THE 00Z NAM, 12Z CMC AND 12Z ECMWF ALL  
CLUSTER IN BETWEEN THE CAMPS, AND BETTER APPROXIMATE THE  
MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS, SO A BLEND OF THESE SOLUTIONS WILL BE  
PREFERRED.  
 
   
..AMPLIFYING TROUGH OVER THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS  
   
..CLOSED LOW EVOLUTION TOWARD THE LOWER MS VALLEY  
 
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PREFERENCE: BLEND OF THE 00Z NAM/12Z CMC AND 12Z ECMWF  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE  
 
THE MODELS SHOW VERY GOOD AGREEMENT IN TAKING AN AMPLIFYING  
SHORTWAVE CURRENTLY OVER CO FARTHER SOUTH DOWN ACROSS THE SOUTHERN  
HIGH PLAINS THROUGH THURSDAY AND THEN GRADUALLY EAST ACROSS THE  
BROADER SOUTHERN PLAINS ON FRIDAY. SIGNIFICANT MODEL DISAGREEMENTS  
THOUGH TAKE SHAPE THIS WEEKEND THOUGH AS THE SYSTEM CLOSES OFF AND  
ADVANCES EAST TOWARD THE LOWER MS VALLEY AND THEN NORTHEAST TOWARD  
THE OH/TN VALLEY REGION. AFTER ABOUT 48 HOURS, THE 00Z GFS BECOMES  
A PROGRESSIVE OUTLIER WITH THE HEIGHT FALLS AND IS NOTABLY MORE  
PROGRESSIVE THAN EVEN THE 18Z GEFS MEAN. MEANWHILE, THE 12Z UKMET  
GRADUALLY BECOMES A SLOWER AND MORE AMPLIFIED OUTLIER WITH THE  
SYSTEM AS IT LINGERS WELL SOUTH OVER THE LOWER MS VALLEY. THE  
UKMET ALSO SHOWS MUCH MORE INTERACTION WITH THE AREA OF DISTURBED  
WEATHER OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO. THE 00Z NAM, 12Z CMC AND 12Z  
ECMWF REFLECT BETTER MODEL CLUSTERING AND ENSEMBLE AGREEMENT, AND  
THUS A BLEND OF THESE SOLUTIONS WILL BE PREFERRED ALBEIT WITH  
SOMEWHAT LIMITED CONFIDENCE ON THE MASS FIELD FRONT.  
 
   
..LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPMENT OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO  
 
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PREFERENCE: BLEND OF THE 12Z ECENS/18Z GEFS MEANS  
CONFIDENCE: BELOW AVERAGE  
 
THE LATEST SATELLITE IMAGERY CONFIRMS AN AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER  
OVER THE BAY OF CAMPECHE WHICH THE MODELS UNANIMOUSLY DEPICT  
LIFTING NORTH ACROSS THE WESTERN AND THEN NORTH-CENTRAL GULF OF  
MEXICO OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL SUPPORT AMONG  
THE DETERMINISTIC GLOBAL AND HIRES MODEL SUITES FOR A LOW PRESSURE  
CENTER TO DEVELOP EITHER THURSDAY NIGHT OR EARLY FRIDAY OVER THE  
BAY OF CAMPECHE BEFORE THE SYSTEM LIKELY MERGES WITH A STRONG  
FRONT ENTERING THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO. THE 12Z UKMET WHICH IS  
AN OUTLIER WITH THE HEIGHT FALLS OVER THE LOWER MS VALLEY SUGGESTS  
THE LOW CENTER GETS PICKED UP BY THE AMPLIFYING TROUGH AND DEEPENS  
AS AN EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL GULF  
COAST STATES THIS WEEKEND. THE CONSENSUS OF THE REMAINING  
DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE SUGGESTS A LOW CENTER GETS LEFT ALONG THE  
FRONT ACROSS THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO BY SUNDAY AS THE UPPER  
TROUGH OVER THE LOWER MS VALLEYS LIFTS WELL NORTHEAST ACROSS THE  
OH/TN VALLEYS, ALTHOUGH THERE IS LATITUDINAL SPREAD WITH WHERE THE  
LOW IS CENTERED. THE 00Z GFS IS FARTHEST SOUTH BY SUNDAY, WHERE AS  
THE 00Z NAM IS FARTHER NORTH. THE 12Z CMC/ECMWF SOLUTIONS ARE  
ELONGATED WITH THE LOW IN BETWEEN THE NAM AND GFS CAMPS. THE GEFS  
AND ECENS SUITES OVERALL SUPPORT AT LEAST A WEAK LOW CENTER IN THE  
VICINITY OF THE CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO BY SUNDAY, BUT THERE ARE A  
NUMBER OF GEFS MEMBERS THAT ACTUALLY SUPPORT A SEPARATE LOW CENTER  
DEVELOPING OVER THE NORTHWEST GULF OF MEXICO BY LATE FRIDAY ALONG  
THE AFOREMENTIONED FRONT THAT THEN IMPACTS SOUTH-CENTRAL LA BY  
SATURDAY. SO, IN ESSENCE, THERE IS GEFS SUPPORT FOR THREE LOW  
CENTERS, WITH ONE OVER THE BAY OF CAMPECHE, ONE OVER THE NORTHWEST  
GULF OF MEXICO AND ONE FARTHER NORTH OVER THE LOWER MS VALLEY BY  
EARLY SATURDAY. FOR NOW, WITH LOW CONFIDENCE ON THE MASS FIELD  
DETAILS AT THE SURFACE, A BLEND OF THE 18Z GEFS AND 12Z ECENS  
MEANS WILL BE PREFERRED.  
 
   
..UPPER TROUGH DIGGING ACROSS THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST BY SAT  
 
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PREFERENCE: BLEND OF THE 12Z ECMWF/ECENS MEAN  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
A STRONG DEEP LAYER RIDGE IS FORECAST TO EVOLVE OVER THE GULF OF  
AK THIS WEEKEND WHICH WILL ALLOW SHORTWAVE ENERGY TO DIG SOUTH  
ACROSS SOUTHWEST CANADA AND THEN INTO INTERMOUNTAIN WEST AND  
NORTHERN PLAINS BY SUNDAY. THERE IS SUPPORT FOR SOME STREAM  
SEPARATION OVER THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST BY SUNDAY WHICH IS MORE  
STRONGLY SUPPORTED BY THE 12Z NON-NCEP MODELS. THE 00Z NAM AND 00Z  
GFS BOTH APPEAR TO BE GENERALLY A TAD TOO PROGRESSIVE. THERE IS A  
BIT BETTER ENSEMBLE SUPPORT OVERALL FOR A SLIGHTLY SLOWER  
EVOLUTION OF THE ENERGY, ALTHOUGH THE 12Z UKMET APPEARS TO BE TOO  
SLOW. A PREFERENCE TOWARD 12Z ECMWF AND 12Z ECENS MEAN WILL BE  
PREFERRED WHICH OVERALL BETTER FITS THE MODEL CONSENSUS.  
 
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