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FXUS10 KWNH 050637  
PMDHMD  
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
137 AM EST TUE NOV 05 2019  
 
VALID NOV 05/0000 UTC THRU NOV 08/1200 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
   
..00Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND CONFIDENCE
 
 
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...OVERALL PATTERN ACROSS THE CONUS THROUGH 08.12Z  
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND THROUGH 07.18Z  
00Z GEFS/GFS/ECMWF AND 12Z ECENS MEAN BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE THRU 07.18Z  
BELOW AVERAGE THEREAFTER  
 
07Z UPDATE: THE 00Z ECMWF TRENDED SLOWER WITH THE SHORTWAVE  
EMERGING FROM THE SOUTHWEST, PRESSING THE FRONTAL ZONE  
SOUTHEASTWARD; ALLOWING FOR THE NORTHERN STREAM TO TREND FASTER,  
AND INCREASE PHASING IN A SIMILAR VAIN TO THE 00Z GFS. AS SUCH  
THE DEVELOPING COASTAL LOW IS MUCH FURTHER NORTH THOUGH STILL NOT  
AS FAR NORTHEAST AS THE GFS. THE UKMET FURTHER DISCONNECTED THE  
TROPICAL MOISTURE CONNECTION OFF THE ATLANTIC AND SO BREAKS DOWN  
THE CYCLOGENESIS EVEN FURTHER TO THE EAST AND IS NO LONGER WITHIN  
THE REALM OF THE ENSEMBLE SUITE. THE 00Z CMC STAYED MOST  
CONSISTENT BUT ALSO STARTING ALLUDING TOWARD A NORTHWARD SHIFT  
RELATIVE TO THE PRIOR RUN. ALL THIS LEADS TO FURTHER UNCERTAINTY,  
ESPECIALLY SINCE THE 12Z GEFS SHOWED GREATER WITHIN ENSEMBLE  
AGREEMENT AND IS A SPLIT BETWEEN THE NEW ECMWF AND 00Z GFS.  
GIVEN ALL THE GUIDANCE HAS BEEN VARYING FROM RUN TO RUN, AND THE  
BETTER VERIFYING GUIDANCE IS STARTING TO AGREE FURTHER NORTH, WILL  
ADJUST AND SUPPORT A CHANGE TOWARD A 00Z GEFS/ECWMF/GFS BLEND WITH  
SOME 12Z ECENS MEAN TO HANDLE SOME OF THE OTHER UNCERTAINTY AND  
KEEP SOME BLEND OF CONTINUITY WITHIN THE PREFERENCE. CONFIDENCE  
IS BELOW AVERAGE AFTER 07.18Z  
 
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE AND ENSEMBLE SUITE CONTINUE TO BE IN VERY  
STRONG AGREEMENT WITH THE CONUS WEATHER PATTERN THROUGH MUCH OF  
THE SHORT-RANGE FORECAST PERIOD. HOWEVER, MODEL SPREAD  
SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES ON THE LATTER DAY 3 PERIOD PARTICULARLY  
WITH THE EVOLUTION OF A COASTAL SURFACE LOW IN NEW ENGLAND VERY  
LATE THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY MORNING. EVOLUTIONARY DIFFERENCES  
APPEAR TO BE DRIVEN IN A TYPICAL FASHION BY A WEAKENING/SHEARED  
CLOSED LOW EMERGING OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST, ITS  
INFLUENCE/INTERACTION WITH GULF MOISTURE TO DEVELOP CONVECTION,  
WITH THE SAID CONVECTION FEEDING BACK UPSCALE TO THE UPPER LEVEL  
SUBTROPICAL JET STREAK AND ITS INFLUENCE WITH THE POLAR JET  
STREAM. AS SUCH, MODEL SPREAD IS ACTUALLY QUITE LARGE AT THE DAY  
3 PERIOD ACROSS THE NORTHEAST, AS THE MUCH OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM  
IS IN THE DATA ASSIMILATION POOR REGION IN THE COLD CURRENT  
REGION OF THE SUBTROPICAL NORTHEAST PACIFIC AND AS A BYPRODUCT,  
THE CONVECTION HAS YET TO DEVELOP PROVIDING STRENGTH/UPSCALE  
FEED-BACK TO THE SYNOPTIC SYSTEM.  
 
THROUGH DAY 2 INTO EARLY DAY 3, THE GUIDANCE IS VERY WELL AGREED  
UPON, PARTICULARLY IN THE AXIS, SPACING OF THE FRONTAL ZONE ACROSS  
THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE OHIO VALLEY, IT IS THE TIMING  
OF CONVECTIVE INITIATION AND THE PLACEMENT OF THE UPSCALE  
ASCENT/JET ENHANCEMENT RELATIVE THE TIMING OF THE NORTHERN STREAM  
SHORTWAVE (PHASED OR JUST OFFSET) THAT LEADS TO THE VARIATION.  
THE 00Z NAM AND 12Z CMC ARE MOST AGGRESSIVE WITH THE CONVECTIVE  
DEVELOPMENT PRESSING IT FASTER INTO THE OHIO VALLEY AND AHEAD OF  
THE NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE BRING THE 150+KT 250MB JET NEARLY  
6-12HRS PRIOR TO OTHER GUIDANCE. THIS ALLOWS FOR GREATER  
AMPLIFICATION AND MORE COMPACT DOWNSTREAM EVOLUTION THROUGH THE  
NEW YORK BIGHT AND EVENTUALLY THE DEEPEST SURFACE EVOLUTION BY 12Z  
FRIDAY. THE PLACEMENT, TIMING IS SUPPORTED BY THE 12Z ECWMF BUT,  
THIS MAY BE A BIT OFF, GIVEN THE ECMWF IS UNCHARACTERISTICALLY THE  
FASTEST BRINGING THE SHEARED SHORTWAVE OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST, BUT  
IS ALSO THE SLOWEST WITH THE NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE, SO THE  
UPPER LEVEL JET ENHANCEMENT IS DELAYED. ENSEMBLE TRENDS WOULD  
SUPPORT THIS EVOLUTION A BIT MORE THAN THE HIGHLY AGGRESSIVE  
CMC/NAM.  
 
THE 00Z GFS, IS VERY FAST EXITING THE PRIOR SHORTWAVE TROF AND IS  
UNCHARACTERISTICALLY SLOW BRINGING THE SHORTWAVE OUT OF THE  
SOUTHWEST, THIS EVENTUALLY LEADS TO THE MOST PHASED EVOLUTION  
ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY, BUT ALSO WELL NORTH OF THE OTHER  
SOLUTIONS, INCLUDING THE BULK OF GEFS MEMBERS, MAKING IT LESS  
DESIRABLE TO INCLUDE IN ANY BLEND. THE 12Z UKMET SHOWS A LESS  
AMPLIFIED SOLUTION OVERALL, LIKELY AS IT IS MOST DISCONNECTED IN  
THE LOW LEVEL STREAM CONFLUENCE, PARTICULARLY THE RETURN ATLANTIC  
STREAM LIFTING NORTH ALONG THE EAST COAST, AS SUCH THE SURFACE  
EVOLUTION IS MUCH WEAKER BUT IN DECENT PLACEMENT COMPARED TO THE  
ECENS MEAN/GEFS MEAN. SO OVERALL, A GENERAL MODEL BLEND IS  
SUPPORTED ACROSS DAY 2 AND THROUGH THE CENTRAL PLAINS/MID-MS  
VALLEY... BUT A ECMWF, ECENS MEAN BLEND WITH LOW INCORPORATION OF  
THE GEFS, UKMET IS PREFERRED THEREAFTER BUT AT MUCH REDUCED  
CONFIDENCE (AVERAGE TO SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE).  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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