300  
FXUS10 KWNH 090509  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
1208 AM EST SAT NOV 09 2019  
 
VALID NOV 09/0000 UTC THRU NOV 12/1200 UTC  
 
..SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
...00Z NAM/GFS EVALUATION WITH PRELIMINARY PREFERENCES AND  
CONFIDENCE...  
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..WEAK SURFACE LOW TRACKING NORTH OF THE GREAT LAKES TODAY
 
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
THE GUIDANCE SHOWS SIMILARLY WITH THIS SYSTEM.  
 
...SHORTWAVE(S) SHEARING INTO THE INTERIOR NORTHWEST AND JOINING  
WITH AN AMPLIFYING MID-LEVEL TROUGH AXIS INTO THE NORTH-CENTRAL  
U.S. FOR MONDAY...   
..SURFACE LOW IN THE VICINITY OF NEW ENGLAND TUESDAY MORNING
 
 
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PREFERENCE: 00Z NAM, 00Z GFS, 12Z ECMWF BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
ENSEMBLE HAS SHOWN CONVERGENCE OVER ITS PAST FOUR 12/00Z CYCLES  
BUT SOME TIMING AND AMPLITUDE DIFFERENCES REMAIN WITH THE 500 MB  
TROUGH CROSSING THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S. AND GREAT LAKES EARLY NEXT  
WEEK. THE 00Z GFS IS SLIGHTLY MORE PROGRESSIVE WITH THE 500 MB  
TROUGH, BUT FLOW DOWNSTREAM LACKS A BLOCKING RIDGE WHICH MAY  
SUPPORT A MORE PROGRESSIVE TRACK TO THE UPPER TROUGH. THE 12Z  
ECMWF AND 00Z NAM ARE MORE SIMILAR WITH A SLOWER TROUGH, NAM MORE  
AMPLIFIED, BUT THE NAM'S SURFACE LOW NEAR THE NEW ENGLAND COAST  
TUESDAY MORNING IS DISPLACED SLIGHTLY SOUTH/EAST OF THE CENTROID  
OF THE LATEST ENSEMBLE SCATTER LOW PLOTS. THE 12Z ECMWF IS NEAR  
THE MIDDLE OF THE LATEST SCATTER LOW PLOTS. MEANWHILE, THE 12Z  
UKMET WAS A BIT FLATTER WITH THE UPPER TROUGH EARLIER IN THE  
PERIOD ACROSS THE CENTRAL U.S. AND THE 12Z CMC IS THE SLOWEST/MOST  
AMPLIFIED WITH THE UPPER TROUGH.  
 
   
..COLD FRONT NEARING THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON TUESDAY
 
 
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PREFERENCE: 00Z NAM/00Z GFS BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
TIMING DIFFERENCES APPEAR STARTING MONDAY MORNING AS A COLD FRONT  
APPROACHES THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST. THE 12Z UKMET IS SLOWEST WHILE  
THE 12Z ECMWF IS FASTEST WITH THE RELATED UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. THE  
00Z NAM/00Z GFS APPEAR TO MAKE UP A REASONABLE COMPROMISE IN THE  
MIDDLE OF THE LATEST SPREAD.  
   
..CLOSED LOW OVER NORTHWESTERN MEXICO
 
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
SOME MINOR TIMING DIFFERENCES EXIST WITH THIS FEATURE WITH THE 00Z  
GFS/12Z UKMET FASTEST AND 12Z CMC SLOWEST. ENSEMBLE MEANS ARE IN  
THE MIDDLE, AND ACTUALLY, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE  
DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE ARE SMALL ENOUGH THROUGH TUESDAY TO SUPPORT  
A GENERAL MODEL BLEND FOR THE PREFERENCE.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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