165  
FXUS10 KWNH 101940  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
240 PM EST SUN NOV 10 2019  
 
VALID NOV 10/1200 UTC THRU NOV 14/0000 UTC  
 
..SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
   
..12Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND CONFIDENCE  
 
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...AMPLIFYING MID-LEVEL TROUGH AXIS INTO THE NORTH-CENTRAL U.S.  
FOR MONDAY...   
..SURFACE LOW IN THE VICINITY OF NEW ENGLAND TUESDAY MORNING  
 
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PREFERENCE: NON 12Z UKMET BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 12Z UKMET TRENDED FASTER WITH ITS TROUGH AXIS  
MOVING THROUGH NEW ENGLAND, AHEAD OF THE REST OF THE GUIDANCE. THE  
12Z ECMWF/CMC ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE GFS/NAM AT 500 MB. AT  
THE SURFACE, OVERALL SPREAD HAS LESSENED, AND THE NON-UKMET BLEND  
PREFERENCE REMAINS.  
 
---PREVIOUS DISCUSSION---  
IN THE LAST 24 HOURS, MODEL AGREEMENT HAS IMPROVED WITH THE  
SHORTWAVE TROUGH AXIS SWINGING THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES AND  
NORTHEAST U.S. THROUGH TUESDAY AND WITH THE SURFACE LOW  
DEVELOPMENT AND TRACK ACROSS NEW ENGLAND. THE CONSENSUS IS FOR LOW  
PRESSURE TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS AND THEN  
TOWARD SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND BY 12Z TUESDAY AND THEN ENTER THE GULF  
OF MAINE TOWARD 00Z WEDNESDAY. SPREAD BETWEEN THE DETERMINISTIC  
MODELS IS LOW AND OVERALL A GENERAL MODEL BLEND CAN BE USED FOR  
THE MASS FIELDS WITH THIS SYSTEM.  
 
   
..COLD FRONT NEARING THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON TUESDAY  
 
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PREFERENCE: GFS/ECMWF BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 12Z DETERMINISTIC EC RUN IMPROVED WITH  
TIMING/STRENGTH COMPARED TO ITS EARLIER RUN, AND NOW AGREES WELL  
WITH THE REST OF THE GUIDANCE, SO SOME OF THE ITS SOLUTION CAN BE  
INCORPORATED INTO THE BLEND.  
 
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RIDGING CURRENTLY ANCHORED OVER THE WESTERN U.S. AT THE START OF  
THE FORECAST PERIOD WILL BREAK DOWN AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND  
ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT ENTER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST TUESDAY. THROUGH  
48 HOURS (12.12Z), THERE IS ABOVE AVERAGE AGREEMENT WITH THE  
LATEST DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE. BEYOND THAT, THE 00Z ECMWF  
CONTINUES TO BE A BIT DEEPER/AMPLIFIED WITH ITS TROUGH. THE 00Z  
ECENS MEAN WOULD BE A GOOD COMPROMISE TO THE MORE AMPLIFIED ECMWF  
AND ALSO AGREES WELL WITH THE LATEST GFS. THE NAM/CMC OFFER SOME  
UTILITY AS WELL WHILE THE UKMET SEEMS TO BE TOO SLOW COMPARED TO  
THE REST OF THE GUIDANCE. THE PREFERENCE FOR NOW WILL BE A  
NON-UKMET BLEND, WITH HEAVIER WEIGHTS TOWARD THE ECENS/GFS.  
 
   
..CLOSED LOW OVER NORTHWESTERN MEXICO  
 
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PREFERENCE: NON 12Z UKMET BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE UKMET IS NOT AS BIG OF AN OUTLIER AS THE EARLIER  
RUN SUGGESTED, BUT BY THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD, IT CONTINUES  
TO BE A LITTLE AHEAD OF THE REST OF THE GUIDANCE. SO, FOR NOW WILL  
CONTINUE THE NON-UKMET BLEND PREFERENCE.  
 
---PREVIOUS DISCUSSION---  
THE 00Z UKMET CONTINUES TO BE THE FASTER OUTLIER REGARDING THE 500  
MB LOW TRACK ACROSS MEXICO DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THE 12Z  
GFS/NAM OFFER SIMILAR SOLUTIONS TO THE 00Z ECMWF/CMC, SO WITH THIS  
IN MIND, A NON-00Z UKMET BLEND IS PREFERRED.  
 
   
..SHORTWAVE TROUGH APPROACHING CALIFORNIA MID-WEEK  
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
A SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL APPROACH THE WESTERN U.S. COAST BY MID TO  
LATE WEEK. ALL OF THE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE HAS THIS FEATURE BUT  
WITH SOME CONSIDERABLE SPREAD IN THE TIMING. THE USUAL BIASES ARE  
NOTED, WITH THE GFS/NAM WAY OUT AHEAD COMPARED TO THE NON-NCEP  
GUIDANCE. THE ECMWF IS THE SLOWEST, WHILE THE UKMET/CMC OFFER A  
SOLUTION NEAR CONSENSUS. RELATIVE STRENGTH/POSITION LOOKS SIMILAR,  
SO A GENERAL MODEL BLEND WOULD LIKELY YIELD A GOOD APPROACH AT  
THIS TIME.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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