663  
FXUS10 KWNH 121849  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
148 PM EST TUE NOV 12 2019  
 
VALID NOV 12/1200 UTC THRU NOV 16/0000 UTC  
 
..SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND CONFIDENCE  
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..DEPARTING EAST COAST STORM SYSTEM TODAY/TONIGHT  
   
..UPPER TROUGH PIVOTING THROUGH THE NORTHEAST  
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES ARE NOTED IN THE GUIDANCE WITH THE  
DEPARTING NEW ENGLAND LOW CENTER, AND COLD FRONT EXITING THE EAST  
COAST. THE MODELS ARE ALSO IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE DETAILS OF  
THE DEEP UPPER TROUGH PIVOTING THROUGH THE NORTHEAST THROUGH EARLY  
WEDNESDAY, SO A GENERAL MODEL BLEND WILL BE PREFERRED.  
 
   
..SHORTWAVE TRACKING FROM THE NORTHWEST TO THE PLAINS BY WED  
   
..CLOSED LOW DEVELOPMENT OVER THE SOUTHEAST  
   
..CYCLOGENESIS OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST  
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND...THROUGH 48 HOURS  
12Z GFS...AFTER 48 HOURS  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE...BECOMING BELOW AVERAGE AFTER 48 HOURS  
 
THE MODELS SHOW GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE DETAILS OF THE SHORTWAVE  
CROSSING THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND DIGGING SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE  
PLAINS THROUGH WEDNESDAY. ON THURSDAY, THIS ENERGY WILL BEGIN  
SEPARATE OUT FROM THE WESTERLIES AND DIG DOWN ACROSS THE LOWER MS  
AND TN VALLEYS. AS THIS ENERGY DROPS SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE GULF  
COAST STATES, IT SHOULD INTERACT WITH AND CAPTURE ENERGY  
ASSOCIATED WITH AN EJECTING SOUTHERN STREAM CLOSED LOW CROSSING  
FROM MEXICO THROUGH SOUTH TEXAS AND THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO.  
THE RESULT OF THIS INTERACTION WILL ULTIMATELY BE A CLOSED LOW  
OVER THE SOUTHEAST BY FRIDAY, WITH COASTAL CYCLOGENESIS TAKING  
PLACE JUST SOUTHEAST OF THE CAROLINAS.  
 
THE 12Z NAM OVERALL APPEARS TO BE A BIT TOO STRONG WITH ITS  
SHORTWAVE AMPLIFICATION DOWN ACROSS THE TN VALLEY AND GULF COAST  
STATES. MEANWHILE, THE 12Z ECMWF APPEARS TO STILL BE A LITTLE TOO  
SLOW WITH ITS PROGRESSION AND IS THE SLOWEST DETERMINISTIC  
SOLUTION WITH THE CLOSED LOW. THE 12Z CMC DID TREND STRONGER  
TOWARD THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS, BUT IS LIKELY A TAD TOO FAR  
NORTH WITH ITS HEIGHT FALLS AND ALSO TOO WEAK WITH ITS SURFACE  
REFLECTION SOUTHEAST OF THE CAROLINAS. THE 12Z GFS AND 12Z UKMET  
SHOW THE BEST CLUSTERING ALOFT AND MORE CLOSELY APPROXIMATE THE  
MODEL CONSENSUS, BUT AT THE SURFACE, THE UKMET APPEARS TO PERHAPS  
BE A TAD TOO STRONG. THERE IS A BIT OF SPREAD AMONG THE ENSEMBLE  
SUITES WITH THE PLACEMENT OF THE COASTAL CYCLOGENESIS, BUT OVERALL  
THE GFS HAS THE BETTER SUPPORT AT THE END OF THE PERIOD. WILL  
PREFER A GENERAL MODEL BLEND THROUGH 48 HOURS, FOLLOWED BY A  
SOLUTION TOWARD THE GFS THEREAFTER.  
 
   
..STRONG NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH BRUSHING THE NORTHEAST BY FRI  
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
THE MODELS PLACE A STRONG NORTHERN STREAM CLOSED LOW DOWN OVER  
PORTIONS OF QUEBEC BY FRIDAY, WITH HEIGHT FALLS BRUSHING PORTIONS  
OF THE NORTHEAST. THE MODELS SHOW GOOD OVERALL AGREEMENT WITH THIS  
SYSTEM, SO A GENERAL MODEL BLEND WILL BE PREFERRED.  
 
   
..MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVES APPROACHING THE WEST COAST ON THURS  
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
A RELATIVELY WEAK MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVE IS EXPECTED TO APPROACH THE  
OREGON/CALIFORNIA COASTLINES EARLY ON THURSDAY WHILE A SECOND  
SHORTWAVE LURKS TO THE NORTH WITH A LIKELY DESTINATION OF  
WASHINGTON/BRITISH COLUMBIA THURSDAY NIGHT. DESPITE SOME MINOR  
TIMING DIFFERENCES OF THESE TWO FEATURES, AGREEMENT IS GOOD ENOUGH  
TO WARRANT A GENERAL MODEL BLEND WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE LATEST  
ENSEMBLE MEANS.  
 
   
..CLOSED LOW DEVELOPMENT OFFSHORE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ON FRI  
 
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PREFERENCE: BLEND OF THE 12Z GFS, 12Z ECMWF AND 00Z ECENS MEAN  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
ADDITIONAL SHORTWAVE ENERGY APPROACHING CALIFORNIA LATE THURSDAY  
WILL BREAK AWAY AND DIG SOUTHEAST TO OFFSHORE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA  
ON FRIDAY, WITH THE GUIDANCE SUPPORTING A WEAK CLOSED LOW  
EVOLUTION. THE 12Z NAM IS A MORE PROGRESSIVE OUTLIER COMPARED TO  
THE GLOBAL MODEL SUITE AND IS ALSO GENERALLY ON THE WEAK SIDE OF  
THE GUIDANCE. OF THE GLOBAL MODELS, THE 12Z GFS AND 12Z ECMWF SHOW  
BETTER MODEL CLUSTERING AND HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE 00Z ECENS MEAN.  
THEREFORE, A BLEND OF THESE SOLUTIONS WILL BE PREFERRED.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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