827  
FXUS10 KWNH 131849  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
147 PM EST WED NOV 13 2019  
 
VALID NOV 13/1200 UTC THRU NOV 17/0000 UTC  
 
..SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND CONFIDENCE  
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..SHORTWAVE CROSSING THE PLAINS/MIDWEST
 
   
..CLOSED LOW DEVELOPMENT OVER THE SOUTHEAST
 
   
..CYCLOGENESIS OFF THE SOUTHEAST COAST
 
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND...THROUGH 36 HOURS  
12Z GFS...AFTER 36 HOURS  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE...BECOMING BELOW AVERAGE AFTER 36 HOURS  
 
A SHORTWAVE WHICH IS CURRENTLY CROSSING PORTIONS OF THE PLAINS AND  
MIDWEST WILL BEGIN TO SEPARATE OUT FROM THE WESTERLIES AND DIG  
DOWN ACROSS THE LOWER MS AND TN VALLEYS ON THURSDAY. AS THIS  
ENERGY DROPS SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE GULF COAST STATES, IT SHOULD  
INTERACT WITH AND CAPTURE ENERGY ASSOCIATED WITH AN EJECTING  
SOUTHERN STREAM CLOSED LOW CROSSING FROM MEXICO THROUGH SOUTH  
TEXAS AND THE WESTERN GULF OF MEXICO. THE RESULT OF THIS  
INTERACTION WILL ULTIMATELY BE A CLOSED LOW OVER THE SOUTHEAST BY  
FRIDAY, WITH COASTAL CYCLOGENESIS TAKING PLACE JUST SOUTHEAST OF  
THE CAROLINAS.  
 
THE 12Z NAM AGAIN BECOMES STRONGER THAN THE GLOBAL MODELS WITH THE  
CLOSED LOW EVOLUTION ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST AND THEN OFFSHORE GOING  
THROUGH FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. THE NAM IS AN OUTLIER SOLUTION WITH A  
LEAD SURFACE LOW THAT DEVELOPS NEAR THE NC OUTER BANKS BY EARLY  
FRIDAY WHICH THEN LIFTS NORTHEAST UP ALONG A FRONTAL ZONE. THE  
ENTIRE GLOBAL MODEL SUITE FOCUSES THE MAIN AREA OF CYCLOGENESIS  
FARTHER SOUTH AND OFFSHORE OF SC BY LATE FRIDAY, ALTHOUGH  
EVENTUALLY THE NAM DOES DEVELOP A NEW AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN THE  
AREA FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY, WITH ALL OF THE MODELS AT  
LEAST AGREEING ON THERE BEING A RATHER STRONG AREA OF LOW PRESSURE  
SOUTHEAST OF THE CAROLINAS ON SATURDAY. REGARDING THE GLOBAL  
MODELS, THE 12Z ECMWF AGAIN APPEARS TO BE TOO SLOW WITH ITS HEIGHT  
FALL PROGRESSION, WITH THE 12Z CMC ALSO ON THE SLOWER SIDE OF THE  
MODEL SUITE. THE 12Z GFS IS VERY CLOSE TO THE MULTI-MODEL  
CONSENSUS, WITH THE 12Z UKMET JUST A LITTLE EAST OF THE GFS WITH  
THE SURFACE LOW EVOLUTION. THE ENSEMBLE MEANS ARE SPLIT WITH  
TIMING AS THE ECENS MEAN IS ON THE SLOW SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE AND  
THE GEFS MEAN FASTER, ALTHOUGH THE LATEST GFS IS NOT AS  
PROGRESSIVE AS THE GEFS MEAN. BASED ON THE LATEST MODEL CLUSTERING  
AND ENSEMBLE SPREAD, A GENERAL MODEL BLEND WILL BE PREFERRED  
THROUGH 36 HOURS, FOLLOWED BY A SOLUTION TOWARD THE GFS  
THEREAFTER, ALTHOUGH CONFIDENCE IS LIMITED IN TIME GIVEN THE  
RATHER BROAD SPREAD SEEN WITH THE SURFACE LOW EVOLUTION LATE IN  
THE PERIOD.  
 
   
..STRONG NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH BRUSHING THE NORTHEAST BY FRI
 
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND...THROUGH 60 HOURS  
NON-NAM BLEND...AFTER 60 HOURS  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
THE MODELS PLACE A STRONG NORTHERN STREAM CLOSED LOW DOWN OVER  
PORTIONS OF QUEBEC BY FRIDAY, WITH HEIGHT FALLS BRUSHING PORTIONS  
OF THE NORTHEAST. THE MODELS SHOW GOOD OVERALL AGREEMENT WITH THIS  
SYSTEM THROUGH 60 HOURS, WITH THE 12Z NAM THEN BECOMING A LITTLE  
SLOWER/DEEPER THAN THE GLOBAL MODELS AS THE ENERGY BEGINS TO PULL  
AWAY ON SATURDAY THROUGH THE CANADIAN MARITIMES. WILL PREFER A  
GENERAL MODEL BLEND THROUGH 60 HOURS, AND A NON-NAM BLEND  
THEREAFTER.  
 
   
..MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVES APPROACHING THE WEST COAST ON THURS
 
   
..ENERGY DIGGING ACROSS THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST FRI/SAT
 
 
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PREFERENCE: BLEND OF THE 12Z NAM/CMC/ECMWF  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
A RELATIVELY WEAK MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVE IS EXPECTED TO APPROACH THE  
WEST COAST EARLY ON THURSDAY WHILE A SECOND SHORTWAVE FARTHER  
NORTH AIMS TOWARD VANCOUVER ISLAND AND SOUTHERN BRITISH COLUMBIA  
BY EARLY FRIDAY. THE INITIAL SHORTWAVE SHOULD DAMPEN OUT, BUT THE  
SECOND SHORTWAVE FARTHER NORTH IS EXPECTED TO DROP SOUTHEAST DOWN  
ACROSS THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST AND BEGIN TO AMPLIFY THROUGH  
SATURDAY. THE 12Z UKMET BECOMES THE FASTEST SOLUTION WITH THE  
AMPLIFYING TROUGH, WITH THE 12Z GFS THE SLOWEST. THE 12Z NAM, 12Z  
ECMWF AND 12Z CMC SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CAMPS AND ACTUALLY  
CLUSTER TOGETHER RATHER WELL, SO A BLEND OF THESE SOLUTIONS WILL  
BE PREFERRED.  
 
   
..CLOSED LOW DEVELOPMENT OFFSHORE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ON FRI
 
 
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PREFERENCE: BLEND OF THE 12Z GFS/CMC/UKMET  
CONFIDENCE: ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
ADDITIONAL SHORTWAVE ENERGY APPROACHING CALIFORNIA LATE THURSDAY  
WILL BREAK AWAY AND DIG SOUTHEAST TO OFFSHORE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA  
ON FRIDAY, WITH THE GUIDANCE SUPPORTING A WEAK CLOSED LOW  
EVOLUTION THAT DROPS DOWN TO WEST OF THE BAJA PENINSULA BY  
SATURDAY. THE 12Z NAM ENDS UP ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE MODEL  
SUITE BY THE END OF THE PERIOD, WITH THE 12Z ECMWF NOW ON THE  
NORTHEAST SIDE. THE BETTER MODEL CLUSTERING INCLUDES THE 12Z GFS,  
12Z CMC AND 12Z UKMET WHICH AS A CONSENSUS ARE WELL SUPPORTED BY  
THE LATEST ENSEMBLE MEANS. SO, WILL PREFER A GFS/CMC/ECMWF BLEND  
WITH THIS SYSTEM.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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