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FXUS10 KWNH 151736  
PMDHMD  
 
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
1235 PM EST FRI NOV 15 2019  
 
VALID NOV 15/1200 UTC THRU NOV 19/0000 UTC  
 
A..SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND FORECAST CONFIDENCE  
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..UPPER LOW OVER THE SOUTHEAST
 
   
..EAST COAST COASTAL LOW EVOLUTION
 
 
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PREFERENCE: 12Z HREF (MINUS NMMB) AND 00Z CMC/ECMWF BLEND <36 HRS  
00Z CMC/ECMWF BLEND >36 HRS  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE...BECOMING BELOW AVERAGE AFTER 36 HOURS  
 
AN UPPER LOW DEEPENING OVER THE SOUTHEAST WILL MOVE EAST AND  
FOSTER MULTIPLE AREAS OF CYCLOGENESIS OFF THE SOUTHEAST COASTLINE  
TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY SATURDAY. ALL OF THE MODELS STRONGLY SUPPORT  
LOW PRESSURE BECOMING TUCKED IN RELATIVELY CLOSE SOUTHEAST NC  
THROUGH THIS PERIOD, BUT THEREAFTER, THE 12Z NAM BECOMES AN  
OUTLIER IN SUPPORTING LOW PRESSURE REMAINING FOCUSED IN CLOSER TO  
SOUTHEAST NC. THE GLOBAL MODELS AND THE HIRES MODEL SUITE SUGGEST  
THE INITIAL LOW CENTER DAMPENING OUT AND EVEN CYCLONICALLY LOOPING  
AROUND A NEW AREA OF LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPING TO THE SOUTH ALONG  
THE ATTENDANT FRONT OFF THE SOUTHEAST COASTLINE. OF THE GLOBAL  
MODELS, THE 00Z UKMET FOCUSES ITS LOW PRESSURE EVOLUTION A BIT  
FARTHER TO THE SOUTHWEST AND AWAY FROM THE MODEL CONSENSUS WHICH  
EXTENDS OUT THROUGH 36 HOURS. MEANWHILE, THE 12Z GFS COLLECTIVELY  
WITH ITS LOW CENTERS ENDS UP A BIT FARTHER EAST OF THIS CONSENSUS.  
THE BETTER MODEL CLUSTERING THROUGH 36 HOURS IS WITH THE 00Z  
CMC/ECMWF ALONG WITH THE 12Z ARW/ARW2 AND 12Z NAM-CONEST. THE 12Z  
NMMB IS A NORTHERLY OUTLIER WITHIN THE HIRES MODEL SUITE.  
 
AFTER 36 HOURS, AS LOW PRESSURE CONSOLIDATES OFF THE SOUTHERN  
MID-ATLANTIC COASTLINE, THE 12Z GFS TAKES THE LOW CENTER NORTHWARD  
AND TO THE EAST OF ALL OF THE AVAILABLE DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE.  
THE 12Z NAM AND 00Z UKMET END UP MUCH FARTHER WEST WITH A MORE  
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE NORTHEAST AS THE LOW CENTER GETS PULLED  
IN TOWARD THE COAST OR INLAND. THIS CLUSTER OF SOLUTIONS THAT  
TRACKS FARTHER WEST IS HIGHLY TIED INTO THE UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE  
TROUGHING THAT AMPLIFIES INTO THE OH/TN VALLEYS AND BECOMES  
NEGATIVELY TILTED ACROSS THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS LATER  
SUNDAY AND INTO MONDAY. THIS RESULTS IN A BACKING OF THE LARGE  
SCALE FLOW ACROSS THE NORTHEAST WHICH FORCES THE LOW TRACK FARTHER  
WEST. THE 00Z CMC AND 00Z ECMWF SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE  
TWO OUTLIER CAMPS. HOWEVER, THE ENSEMBLE SPREAD IS SIGNIFICANT,  
AND IF ANYTHING FAVORS THE LOW CENTER TO STILL TRACK FARTHER  
OFFSHORE. FOR NOW, GIVEN THE OVERALL TRENDS OF SEVERAL MODELS TO  
TREND FARTHER WEST WITH THE LOW CENTER, A BLEND OF THE CMC AND  
ECMWF WILL BE PREFERRED AFTER 36 HOURS WHICH WILL MINIMIZE SUPPORT  
FOR THE NAM/UKMET AND GFS FOR THE TIME BEING.  
 
   
..AMPLIFYING TROUGH ACROSS THE CENTRAL/EASTERN U.S
 
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND...THROUGH 48 HOURS  
00Z CMC/ECMWF BLEND...AFTER 48 HOURS  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE...BECOMING BELOW AVERAGE AFTER 48 HOURS  
 
A SHORTWAVE WILL DROP SOUTHEAST DOWN ACROSS THE INTERMOUNTAIN  
REGION AND BEGIN TO AMPLIFY THROUGH SATURDAY. THIS ENERGY WILL  
TRAVERSE THE PLAINS/MIDWEST THROUGH EARLY SUNDAY AND THEN BECOME  
NEGATIVELY TILTED BY SUNDAY NIGHT AS IT CROSSES THE OH/TN VALLEYS.  
SIGNIFICANT MODEL SPREAD EXISTS BY MONDAY AS THE ENERGY CROSSES  
THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS AND MID-ATLANTIC REGION, AS THE  
00Z UKMET/CMC/ECMWF SOLUTIONS ARE SLOWER THAN THE 12Z NAM/GFS, AND  
IN THE CASE OF THE UKMET, IT FAVORS A STRONGER CLOSED LOW  
EVOLUTION ACROSS THE MID-ATLANTIC AT THE END OF THE PERIOD THAT  
INTERACTS WITH THE LOW CENTER IMPACTING THE NORTHEAST. THERE IS  
SOME SUPPORT FOR THE SLOWER CONSENSUS FROM THE 00Z ECENS MEAN AND  
06Z GEFS MEAN, SO A BLEND TOWARD THE ECMWF AND CMC WILL BE  
PREFERRED AFTER ABOUT 48 HOURS WITH THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM.  
 
   
..CLOSED LOW DEVELOPMENT OFFSHORE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ON FRI
 
 
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
THE MODELS MAINTAIN THE IDEA OF A CLOSED LOW DEVELOPING AND  
EVOLVING OFFSHORE SOUTHERN CA WITH THE LOW DROPPING SOUTH TO THE  
WEST OF THE BAJA PENINSULA THROUGH THE WEEKEND. THIS SYSTEM WILL  
HAVE AN INTERACTION WITH T.S. RAYMOND OVER THE EASTERN TROPICAL  
PACIFIC AS ITS ENERGY AND MOISTURE WILL BE PULLED NORTH TOWARD THE  
BAJA PENINSULA THROUGH THE PERIOD. A GENERAL MODEL BLEND WILL BE  
PREFERRED FOR NOW.  
 
   
..UPPER TROUGH ARRIVING ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON MON
 
 
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PREFERENCE: BLEND OF THE 00Z UKMET/ECMWF  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
THE MODELS BRING A PROGRESSIVE SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED  
SURFACE LOW IN TOWARD THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST ON MONDAY.. THE 12Z  
NAM AND 12Z GFS ARE ON THE FASTER SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE, WITH THE  
00Z CMC/ECMWF SOLUTIONS SLOWER. OVERALL, THE CMC IS A SLOW  
OUTLIER. THE 00Z UKMET IS IN BETWEEN THE ECMWF AND THE NAM/GFS  
SOLUTIONS. THE LATEST ENSEMBLE SUITES TEND TO FAVOR A SOLUTION A  
LITTLE SLOWER THAN THE FASTER DETERMINISTIC CONSENSUS WHICH  
SUGGESTS A SOLUTION TOWARD A BLEND OF THE ECMWF AND UKMET WOULD  
SUFFICE FOR NOW.  
 
MODEL TRENDS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/HTML/MODEL2.HTML  
500 MB FORECASTS AT WWW.WPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/H5PREF/H5PREF.SHTML  
 
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