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FXUS10 KWNH 221824  
PMDHMD  
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
124 PM EST FRI NOV 22 2019  
 
VALID NOV 22/1200 UTC THRU NOV 26/0000 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND CONFIDENCE  
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...CYCLING CLOSED LOW EMERGING INTO PLAINS TODAY, POTENTIALLY  
PHASES WITH NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE ACROSS GREAT LAKES SAT INTO  
SUN SUPPORTING ASSOCIATED SURFACE LOW MOVING FROM THE LOWER OUT OF  
TENNESSEE VALLEY INTO THE CENTRAL APPALACHIANS FRIDAY NIGHT INTO  
SATURDAY...  
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PREFERENCE: 06Z GFS/12Z ECMWF BLEND WITH 12Z GEFS/00Z ECENS  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 12Z ECMWF TRENDED A BIT FASTER WITH THIS SYSTEM  
BECAUSE IT RESOLVED THE NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE A BIT DEEPER.  
THIS PUTS IT ON PAR WITH THE ECENS MEAN AND INITIAL PREFERENCE.  
THIS SHIFT ALSO HELP TO REMOVE THE UKMET, WHICH CONTINUES TO BE  
VERY CLOSE TO THE COAST AND MUCH WETTER IN THE DEFORMATION ZONE TO  
BLEND WITH MUCH CONFIDENCE. AS SUCH WILL FAVOR A 06Z GFS/12Z  
ECMWF BLEND WITH THE 12Z GEFS/00Z ECENS A VERY LOW WEIGHTING TO  
THE 12Z NAM. CONFIDENCE REMAINS SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE GIVEN THE  
RUN TO RUN VOLATILITY.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
GOES WV SUITE DEPICTS AND ELONGATED CLOSED LOW OVER CO STRETCHING  
INTO THE PLAINS SUPPORTING A SURFACE WAVE ACROSS THE LOWER MS  
VALLEY CURRENTLY. THIS WAVE IS EXPECTED TO LIFT THROUGH THE  
APPALACHIANS LATER TODAY INTO TOMORROW. WITH TIME, A SHORTWAVE  
EMERGING FROM THE CANADIAN ROCKIES COMES THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES  
AND SUPPORTS NEGATIVE TILT PHASING THAT SUPPORTS THE TRANSFER OF A  
NEW COASTAL LOW THROUGH NEW ENGLAND. THERE REMAINS LARGE TIMING,  
AND EVEN SOME DEPTH/STRENGTH DIFFERENCE WITH THE NORTHERN STREAM  
WAVE WHICH LEADS TO DIFFERENT EVOLUTION TO THE SURFACE WAVE AFTER  
24.12Z. THE 12Z GFS CHANGED AGAIN BACK TOWARD A FASTER/INCREASED  
PHASED WAVE MUCH LIKE YESTERDAY'S 12Z RUN. THIS IS PAIRED WITH  
THE CMC WHICH IS UNCHARACTERISTICALLY FAST. THE CMC LOOKS OUT OF  
PLACE TO THE ENSEMBLES WITH THIS SYSTEM AND THROUGHOUT THE REST OF  
THE CONUS. GIVEN THE BEST CLUSTERING OF THE ENSEMBLE MEMBERS  
(ECENS/GEFS/CMCE) IS CLOSER TO THE 06Z GFS, THINK THAT IS THE  
DIRECTION OF THE PREFERENCE (GIVEN GOOD CONTINUITY WITH THE 00Z  
SUITE AS WELL). THE 00Z ECWMF, HOWEVER, IS ODD AS IT DOES NOT  
PRESENT MUCH TO THE NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE, AND SO WITH REDUCED  
PHASING/KICKING OF THE SOUTHERN STREAM WAVE, AFTER 25.00Z IT  
STARTS TO OCCLUDE AND WOBBLE SLOWLY THROUGH GULF OF MAINE TO NOVA  
SCOTIA, VERY SLOW EVEN WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF ECENS MEMBERS.  
THE 12Z NAM IS GENERALLY EAST OF THE BEST CLUSTER BUT TIMED OK,  
AND THE UKMET IS WEST AND EVENTUALLY A BIT SLOWER, ABOUT HALF WAY  
BETWEEN THE ECENS MEAN AND THE 00Z ECMWF. AS SUCH WILL FAVOR THE  
06Z GFS/GEFS ALONG WITH THE 00Z ECENS MEAN WITH SOME SMALL  
INCLUSION OF THE UKMET AND NAM TO ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF THE OVERALL  
VARIATION. THIS UNCERTAINTY CLEARLY AFFECTS THE QPF AND STRENGTH  
OF THE DEFORMATION ZONE, SO CONFIDENCE IS SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE  
EVEN THIS CLOSE IN TIME.  
 
...EMBEDDED SHORTWAVES WITHIN STRONG ZONAL NORTHERN PACIFIC JET  
INTO THE NORTHWEST...   
..ASSOCIATED SURFACE WAVE ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER BY 00Z MON
 
 
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PREFERENCE: 12Z GFS/GEFS/ECMWF AND 00Z ECENS BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: THE 12Z ECMWF SLOWED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE  
SOUTHERN CANADA SURFACE WAVE TOWARD EARLY NEXT WEEK, PERHAPS TOO  
SLOW AS IT IS ON THE SOUTHWEST EDGE OF THE ENSEMBLE SUITE. WHILE,  
THE UKMET IS FURTHER SOUTH AND THE CMC REMAINS WEST, IT SEEMS A  
GOOD ADDITION TO THE BLEND TO REPLACE THE UKMET BUT STILL ACCOUNT  
FOR SOME SLOWER/SOUTHERN TRACK POTENTIAL. AS SUCH WILL FAVOR THE  
12Z GFS/GEFS AND THE 00Z ECENS MEAN WITH LOWER WEIGHT TO THE 12Z  
ECMWF.  
 
FAIRLY ACTIVE NORTHERN STREAM ENERGY WILL BRING A PARADE OF  
SHORTWAVES ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER OF THE U.S. DURING THE SHORT  
TERM PERIOD WHILE A LARGE CLOSED LOW DRIFTS WELL OFFSHORE THE  
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COAST. THE LARGE SCALE SYNOPTIC SETUP AND  
EVOLUTION IS FAIRLY REPRESENTED BY THE VARIOUS DETERMINISTIC  
MODELS THROUGH ABOUT 48 HOURS, HOWEVER, AS THE WAVES CREST THE  
CANADIAN ROCKIES THERE IS FAIRLY SIZABLE SPREAD. THIS IS  
PARTICULARLY THE CASE WITH THE CMC WHICH IS DISTINCTLY OUT OF  
PLACE. INTERESTINGLY, THE ECMWF, NOT PRESENTING A SHORTWAVE IN  
THE NORTHERN STREAM AS STRONG AS OTHER GUIDANCE, LEADS TO  
DOWNSTREAM DIFFERENCE FOR THIS SYSTEM, ALLOWING IT TO ACCELERATE A  
TO BE A FAST MEMBER OF THE ECENS SUITE. PERHAPS, NOT EGREGIOUSLY,  
BUT UTILIZING A SLOWER ECENS MEAN (VERY CLOSE TO THE 12Z GFS) AND  
THE 06Z GEFS , UKMET MAY HELP TO STABILIZE SOME TIMING AND OVERALL  
EVOLUTION TO THE SYSTEM. THE 12Z NAM IS A BIT SLOWER AND NORTH  
THAN THE REMAINING GUIDANCE, AND WHILE STILL CLEARLY PLAUSIBLE, IT  
MAY BE A BIT TOO FAR OFF THE BEST CLUSTERING TO INCLUDED AT THIS  
TIME. GIVEN FAST LAMINAR FLOW OUT OF THE PACIFIC IS NOTORIOUSLY  
DIFFICULT TO LOCK DOWN, CONFIDENCE IS ONLY AVERAGE IN A 12Z  
GFS/06Z GEFS AND 00Z UKMET/ECENS MEAN BLEND.  
 
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