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FXUS10 KWNH 231830  
PMDHMD  
MODEL DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
129 PM EST SAT NOV 23 2019  
 
VALID NOV 23/1200 UTC THRU NOV 27/0000 UTC  
 
...SEE NOUS42 KWNO (ADMNFD) FOR THE STATUS OF THE UPPER AIR  
INGEST...  
 
12Z MODEL EVALUATION WITH PREFERENCES AND CONFIDENCE  
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...PHASING NORTHERN/SOUTHERN SHORTWAVES ACROSS GREAT LAKES AND  
ASSOCIATED WESTERN APPALACHIAN SURFACE LOW TRANSFERRING TO COASTAL  
LOW BY SUNDAY...  
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PREFERENCE: GENERAL MODEL BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: LATE ARRIVING 12Z GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO LOOK GOOD AND  
ARE EVEN TIGHTER CLUSTERED TOWARD A COMMON SOLUTION THAN THE NAM  
OR GFS. SO NO REAL CHANGE IN THINKING/PREFERENCES.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
THE PIECES ALL APPEAR TO BE ON THE BOARD, IE WITHIN THE RAOB  
NETWORK, THAT DIFFERENT DATA ASSIMILATION SCHEMES APPEAR TO HAVE  
RESOLVED DETAIL DIFFERENCES TO COME INTO A MUCH STRONGER CONSENSUS  
IN THE DETERMINISTIC, AS WELL AS WITHIN THE ENSEMBLE SUITES. THE  
TREND TOWARD A STRONGER, MORE WESTWARD TRACK HAS BECOME MUCH MORE  
EVIDENT STARTING WITH THE 00Z SUITE. THIS SHOULD BRING HIGHER  
MOISTURE WHILE DEEPENING ALLOWING FOR INCREASED WINTRY MIX THROUGH  
THE NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC INTO NEW ENGLAND. THE CONSENSUS BRINGS  
HIGHER CONFIDENCE IN A GENERAL MODEL BLEND, BUT GIVEN THE DYNAMIC  
DEEPENING/COOLING AND RATHER BROAD SHIFT WEST, CONFIDENCE IS NOT  
ABSOLUTE. THE KEY ON DURATION, AND DEEPENING APPEARS TO BE THE  
WELL UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE/JET SPEED MAX CROSSING SOUTHERN CANADA  
INTO THE GREAT LAKES SATURDAY. THIS IS MUCH FASTER/SHARPER WITH  
THE INTERACTION, WHICH MAY STILL NOT BE FULLY RESOLVED. STILL,  
CONFIDENCE IS SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE GIVEN THE EVOLUTION PRESENTED  
IN A GENERAL MODEL BLEND.  
 
...SHORTWAVE RACING THROUGH CANADIAN ROCKIES SUNDAY BEFORE  
SUPPORTING NORTHERN TIER SURFACE WAVE MON...  
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PREFERENCE: NON-NAM BLEND  
CONFIDENCE: AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: VERY LITTLE VARIATION FROM THE 00Z RUNS WITH THIS  
SYSTEM WERE NOTED IN THE ECMWF/CMC/UKMET AND 12Z GEFS. AS SUCH NO  
CHANGE IN INITIAL PREFERENCE/CONFIDENCE.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
THE FAST PACIFIC FLOW CONTINUES TO PRESS THE PARADE OF LOW  
AMPLITUDE SHORTWAVE/JET SPEED MAXIMA THROUGH SAT INTO EARLY  
SUNDAY. THE LAST WILL HELP BREAK THE ZONAL FLOW PATTERN AS IT  
AMPLIFIES ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PRAIRIES OF CANADA INTO THE NORTHERN  
TIER BY EARLY MONDAY. THIS WILL SUPPORT A STRONG CLIPPER SYSTEM.  
GIVEN THE FLAT/ZONAL FLOW, THERE IS EXPECTED SMALL TIMING  
DIFFERENCES THAT LEAD TO LATITUDINAL DIFFERENCES AS IT AMPLIFIES.  
THE IS MOST NOTED IN THE NAM AND GFS A BIT FURTHER NORTH THAN THE  
CMC/ECMWF/UKMET. HOWEVER, THE NAM BEING A BIT STRONGER AND SLOWER  
IS EFFECTIVELY WELL ON THE NORTHERN FRIDGE OF SOLUTIONS,  
PARTICULARLY WITH EH SURFACE LOW TRACK AND QPF SWATH. ALL  
CONSIDERED, A NON-NAM BLEND APPEARS APPROPRIATE AT AVERAGE  
CONFIDENCE (GIVEN FAST/FLAT FLOW REGIME).  
 
   
..DEVELOPING BROAD GLOBAL TROF OVER NORTHWESTERN NORTH AMERICA
 
 
...LEAD SHORTWAVE IN GREAT BASIN MONDAY, SHIFTING TO CENTRAL  
PLAINS BY TUESDAY...   
..SECONDARY BROAD SHORTWAVE DIGGING ALONG WEST COAST TUES
 
 
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PREFERENCE: NON-NAM BLEND  
EXCEPTION: EXCLUDE THE CMC IN THE ROCKIES/GREAT PLAINS ON TUES.  
CONFIDENCE: BELOW AVERAGE  
 
19Z UPDATE: A SHIFT IN THINKING IS LIKELY REQUIRED WITH THIS  
UPDATE. THE 12Z UKMET WHILE SLIGHTLY WEAKER WITH THE UPSTREAM  
(2ND) WAVE OFF THE WEST COAST, IT IS STILL QUITE STRONG/COMPACT  
AND LINE WITH THE PRIOR 00Z RUN AND THE 12Z GFS. THE GEFS ALSO  
PRESENTED A VAST MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS NEAR OR VERY CLOSE TO THE  
OPERATIONAL GFS WITH SIMILAR INTENSITY. THE CMC ALSO SLOWED WITH  
THIS SYSTEM AND IN DOING SO, FURTHER AMPLIFIED ITS MIDDLE GROUND  
SOLUTION BY DAY 3. THIS LEAVES THE 12Z ECMWF AND 00Z ECENS MEAN  
ALONG WITH AN UNCHARACTERISTICALLY WEAK 12Z NAM AS THE WEAKER  
SOLUTIONS FOR THE WEST COAST.  
 
INTERESTINGLY, THE LEAD WAVE ALL TRENDED SLOWER TOWARD THE 00Z  
UKMET/12Z GFS AS WELL, INCLUDING THE 12Z ECMWF, THOUGH IS FAVORING  
A SLIGHTLY NORTHWARD TRACK (LIKELY DUE TO BEING A BIT SLOWER  
OVERALL. THE CMC IS FURTHER SOUTH, BUT ALSO WEAKER THAN IT WAS.  
THIS WOULD SUGGEST SLOWING TOWARD THE GFS/UKMET AND ECMWF MAY BE  
BETTER IN THE CO ROCKIES INTO PLAINS ON TUESDAY.  
 
GIVEN THESE SHORTWAVE FEATURES ARE STILL CLOSER TO ASIA CURRENTLY  
IN A STRONG PACIFIC FLOW, THERE IS TREMENDOUS UNCERTAINTY AND SO  
CONFIDENCE REMAINS WELL BELOW AVERAGE WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THE  
LARGER SCALE BROAD TROF WILL EXIST WITH TWO EMBEDDED SHORTWAVES.  
THE TIMING/STRENGTH AND LATITUDE VARIATION IS MUCH TO HIGH TO HAVE  
ANY SIGNIFICANT (PRECISE LOCATION CONFIDENCE)...SO A NON-NAM BLEND  
SEEMS APPROPRIATE WITH THE CAVEAT OF FURTHER PREFERENCE CHANGES  
ARE LIKELY.  
 
---PRIOR DISCUSSION---  
IN THE WAKE OF THE LAST ZONAL SHORTWAVE, THE OVERALL LARGE SCALE  
PATTERN STARTS ITS PHASE OF AMPLIFICATION CENTERED AROUND ALBERTA  
AFTER MIDDAY MONDAY. A STRONG LEADING JET AND ASSOCIATED  
SHORTWAVE RIPS THROUGH THE GREAT BASIN AND BY 12Z TUESDAY IS  
SHARPENING OVER THE CO ROCKIES, DEVELOPING A STRONG CENTRAL PLAINS  
SURFACE LOW. UPSTREAM, ANOTHER BROAD SHORTWAVE HUGGING THE  
PANHANDLE OF AK WILL DROP SOUTH ALONG THE COAST, STARTING TO  
BUCKLE INTO A LARGER CLOSED LOW FEATURE JUST AFTER THE PERIOD.  
 
THE MODEL SPREAD IS DRIVEN MAINLY BY THE SPACING BETWEEN SYSTEMS.  
THE UKMET IS MOST DRAMATIC WITH THE SHORTEST WAVE LENGTH/SPACING.  
THIS ALSO ALLOWS FOR GREAT UPPER LEVEL DIFFLUENCE TO SUPPORT RAPID  
CYCLOGENESIS ALONG THE LEADING EDGE OF THE SECONDARY WAVE, EVEN  
SUPPORTING A SUB 976MB LOW BY 27.00Z. THIS SOLUTION IS ENHANCED  
BY THE 12Z GFS, WHICH HAS FLIP-FLOPPED WITH EVOLUTION BETWEEN THE  
00Z, 06Z AND BACK ON THE 12Z RUN. THOUGH THE 12Z GFS IS A BIT  
FASTER WITH THE LEAD WAVE COMPARED TO THE UKMET. BOTH PROVIDE  
REDUCED CONFIDENCE IN THE OVERALL SOLUTION, AS IT IS CLEARLY  
PLAUSIBLE FOR THESE SOLUTIONS TO MANIFEST (BASED MAINLY ON THE  
DOWNSTREAM SHORTWAVE RIDGING/DIVERGENCE ALOFT). THE GEFS/ECENS  
AND CMCE SOLUTIONS WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE STRONGER SOLUTIONS MAY  
BE A BIT TOO FAR OUT OF TOLERANCE AT THIS POINT. THE ECMWF/CMC  
ALONG WITH THE GEFS APPEAR TO BE A MORE CONSISTENT SOLUTION FOR  
PREFERENCE.  
 
THE 12Z NAM, IS QUITE AGREEABLE FOR THE LEAD WAVE, THROUGH THE  
ROCKIES INTO THE PLAINS, BUT THE SECONDARY SHORTWAVE IS VERY WEAK  
AND MORE DRIVEN THROUGH THE NORTHERN STREAM ENERGY/COLD PUSH  
THROUGH THE WESTERN STATES THAN THE SHORTWAVE EVOLUTION OUT OF THE  
PACIFIC STREAM. AS SUCH THERE IS HESITATION FOR ITS INCLUSION IN  
THE BLEND ALONG THE PACIFIC COAST ON DAY 3.  
 
WHILE THE 00Z CMC SHOWS THE NEXT SHORTEST WAVELENGTH, IT IS ONLY  
ON THE EDGE OF THE REMAINING ENSEMBLE SUITE TO SUPPORT A STRONGER  
WAVE. SO, IT IS SOLID TO INCLUDE IT IN THE BLEND TO HELP ACCOUNT  
FOR THE STRONGER/DEEPER SOLUTION. SO ALL CONSIDERED BOTH  
SHORTWAVES, A 00Z ECMWF/CMC BLEND WITH INCLUSION OF THE GEFS/ECENS  
IS PREFERRED. THE 12Z NAM COULD BE BLENDED IN THE LEADING  
SHORTWAVE, BUT SHOULD BE EXCLUDED ALONG THE PACIFIC COAST WITH THE  
SECOND SYSTEM. CONFIDENCE IS BELOW AVERAGE, PARTICULARLY FOR THE  
SECOND WAVE.  
 
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