438  
FXHW01 KWNH 300759  
PMDHI  
 
HAWAII EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
259 AM EST WED NOV 30 2022  
 
VALID 00Z THU DEC 01 2022 - 00Z THU DEC 08 2022  
 
LATEST GUIDANCE FINALLY APPEARS TO HAVE STABILIZED FOR THE PORTION  
OF THE FORECAST COVERING THE LATTER HALF OF THIS WEEK THROUGH THE  
WEEKEND. DURING THIS TIME FRAME EXPECT A LIGHTER TREND FOR  
SHOWERS AS DRIER AIR MOVES INTO THE REGION FROM THE  
NORTH/NORTHEAST, A SCENARIO THAT THE MODELS/MEANS HAD TRENDED  
TOWARD 24 HOURS OR SO AGO. MEANWHILE HIGH PRESSURE WELL TO THE  
NORTHEAST SHOULD EXTEND ITS INFLUENCE JUST ENOUGH TO TRANSITION  
WINDS FROM NORTHERLY OR NORTHEASTERLY INITIALLY TO MODERATE  
EASTERLY TRADES BY FRIDAY AND CONTINUING THROUGH THE WEEKEND.  
THIS WILL PROVIDE A WINDWARD/MOUNTAIN FOCUS FOR ANY SHOWERS THAT  
OCCUR.  
 
THEN BY MONDAY-WEDNESDAY, INDIVIDUAL MODELS AND ENSEMBLE MEMBERS  
DIVERGE WILDLY FOR THE ULTIMATE EVOLUTION OF ENERGY WITHIN A  
SHARPENING UPPER TROUGH THAT APPROACHES FROM THE NORTHWEST TO  
START THE WEEK, LEADING TO SIMILARLY WIDE SPREAD FOR THE SURFACE  
PATTERN AND MOISTURE/PRECIPITATION DISTRIBUTION. ON ONE EXTREME  
THE 00Z ECMWF AND A DECENT CLUSTER OF 00Z CMCENS MEMBERS PULL OFF  
AN UPPER LOW TO THE WEST OF THIS ISLANDS. THE ECMWF SOLUTION  
LEADS TO A MOISTER PATTERN WITH SOUTHEASTERLY WINDS BUT THE UPPER  
FEATURE IN THE CMC MEAN IS WEAK ENOUGH FOR FAIRLY BRISK TRADES TO  
PERSIST. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE LATEST GFS RUNS AND 00Z CMC CLOSE  
THEIR UPPER LOW TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE STATE AND ULTIMATELY  
DEVELOP STRONG NORTHEASTERLY WINDS, WITH AT LEAST THE GFS SHOWING  
A SIGNIFICANT DRYING TREND BY TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY AFTER A MODEST  
REBOUND IN MOISTURE AROUND SUNDAY-MONDAY AS A FRONT APPROACHES.  
THE 00Z GEFS/12Z ECMWF MEANS ARE SIMILAR IN SHOWING THIS MODEST  
MOISTURE REBOUND AT THE START OF THE WEEK AND A BRIEF WEAKENING OF  
THE TRADES WITH THE FRONT, FOLLOWED BY SOME RE-ESTABLISHMENT OF  
TRADES AND WINDWARD SHOWER FOCUS (MORE SO IN THE ECMWF MEAN SINCE  
IT HAS LESS UPPER TROUGHING TO THE NORTHEAST THAN THE GEFS MEAN).  
SOME INDIVIDUAL GEFS/ECENS MEMBERS STILL VARY A LOT THOUGH.  
RELATIVE TO OTHER GUIDANCE THE GFS WINDS BECOME RATHER STRONG BY  
MIDWEEK. BASED ON THE FULL ARRAY OF GUIDANCE, WOULD FAVOR A  
SOLUTION CLOSEST TO THE GEFS/ECMWF MEANS IN PRINCIPLE WHILE  
WAITING FOR BETTER MODEL AGREEMENT.  
 
RAUSCH  
 

 
 
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