714  
FXHW01 KWNH 160753  
PMDHI  
 
HAWAII EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
352 AM EDT MON OCT 16 2023  
 
VALID 00Z TUE OCT 17 2023 - 00Z TUE OCT 24 2023  
 
CONTINUE TO EXPECT FAIRLY LIGHT TRADES THROUGH MIDWEEK, SUPPORTING  
SOME LAND/SEA BREEZE INFLUENCE ON SHOWERS WHEREVER THE BACKGROUND  
FLOW IS TOO WEAK TO PROMOTE A MORE TYPICAL WINDWARD FOCUS. A  
LINGERING BAND OF MOISTURE OVER THE NORTHWESTERN ISLANDS EARLY  
THIS WEEK WILL DEPART SOON, LEADING TO A BRIEF DRIER TREND BEFORE  
ANOTHER FRONT LIKELY APPROACHES OR REACHES THE NORTHWESTERN  
ISLANDS LATE THIS WEEK. TODAY'S GUIDANCE HAS RETURNED TO BETTER  
AGREEMENT FOR THIS FRONT/MOISTURE AXIS BY WAY OF THE GFS/GEFS MEAN  
TRENDING BACK TO THE SOUTH TOWARD THE ECMWF/ECMWF MEAN (AND  
CONSENSUS FROM TWO DAYS AGO). THIS MOISTURE AXIS AND POTENTIAL  
FOR SOME RAINFALL ENHANCEMENT OVER NORTHWESTERN LOCATIONS SHOULD  
PERSIST INTO THE WEEKEND. MEANWHILE HIGH PRESSURE TO THE NORTH OF  
THE FRONT MAY HELP TRADES TO REBOUND BRIEFLY LATE IN THE WEEK.  
 
FROM THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK THE GUIDANCE IS CONSISTENT  
WITH THE GENERAL IDEA OF SIGNIFICANT TROUGH AMPLIFICATION (WITH  
EMBEDDED UPPER LOW) NORTH AND WEST OF THE STATE, PUSHING A FRONT  
TO A POSITION NORTHWEST OF THE MAIN ISLANDS. LEADING FLOW ACROSS  
THE STATE SHOULD TURN MORE SOUTHERLY WITH WHILE MOISTURE/RAINFALL  
SHOULD INCREASE. HOWEVER THERE IS A DECENT AMOUNT OF  
NORTHEAST-SOUTHWEST SPREAD FOR WHERE THE CORE OF THE UPPER TROUGH  
AND ASSOCIATED LOW PRESSURE WILL BE, LEADING TO DIFFERENCES IN THE  
EXACT SURFACE PATTERN AND EVENTUAL MOISTURE FOCUS EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
THE 18Z/00Z GFS RUNS ARE ON THE WEST/SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE  
ENVELOPE BY NEXT MONDAY, LEADING TO THE MOST PRONOUNCED NORTHWARD  
SURGE OF MOISTURE BEING FOCUSED OVER THE NORTHWESTERN ISLANDS.  
THE 00Z GEFS MEAN IS CLOSER TO THE AVERAGE OF REMAINING GUIDANCE  
BUT STILL HINTS AT A WESTERN MOISTURE AXIS. ON THE OTHER HAND THE  
00Z ECMWF/12Z ECENS MEAN SUGGEST THAT LOWER LATITUDE MOISTURE  
SHOULD COME INTO THE BIG ISLAND AND CENTRAL PART OF THE STATE.  
GIVEN TYPICAL SPREAD AND FORECAST ERRORS THAT FAR OUT IN TIME,  
WHILE ACCOUNTING FOR THE MORE EXTREME ASPECTS OF THE GFS, WOULD  
PREFER A COMPROMISE APPROACH AMONG THE 00Z GEFS MEAN/ECMWF AND 12Z  
ECMWF MEAN.  
 
RAUSCH  
 

 
 
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