987  
FXHW01 KWNH 180756  
PMDHI  
 
HAWAII EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
255 AM EST SAT NOV 18 2023  
 
VALID 00Z SUN NOV 19 2023 - 00Z SUN NOV 26 2023  
 
LATEST GUIDANCE MAINTAINS THE SAME GENERAL THEME OF WINDS QUICKLY  
TURNING MORE SOUTHERLY ON SATURDAY AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD  
FRONT, BUT THERE HAS BEEN SOME SHIFTING OVER THE PAST DAY IN TERMS  
OF HOW FAR SOUTHEAST THE FRONT AND ITS ASSOCIATED BAND OF ENHANCED  
RAINFALL REACH BY SUNDAY-MONDAY. WHILE THE ECMWF AND ITS FARTHER  
NORTHWEST FRONT HAD BEEN IN THE MINORITY DUE TO A LOWER CONFIDENCE  
EVOLUTION THAT PULLED OFF SOME ENERGY FROM THE SOUTHWEST PART OF  
THE SUPPORTING UPPER TROUGH, THE 12Z ECENS MEAN AND 00Z UKMET/CMC  
HAVE JOINED THE ECMWF WITH THE IDEA OF SOME ENERGY IN THE SOUTHERN  
PART OF THE UPPER TROUGH SEPARATING JUST ENOUGH TO HOLD THE FRONT  
BACK. THIS CONTRASTS WITH THE GFS/GEFS MEAN THAT CONTINUE TO PUSH  
THE FRONT WELL SOUTHEASTWARD, CORRESPONDING TO A MORE INTACT AND  
THUS AMPLIFIED SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE UPPER TROUGH. THE FINE  
SCALE NATURE OF THE CRUCIAL DETAILS ALOFT SUGGEST PREDICTABILITY  
MAY BE BELOW AVERAGE FOR THE TIME FRAME OF INTEREST, SO WOULD  
FAVOR A COMPROMISE APPROACH FOR THE TIME BEING. EITHER WAY, THE  
FRONT AND ITS MOISTURE BAND SHOULD DISSIPATE QUICKLY AFTER MONDAY  
WITH TRADES AND WINDWARD/MOUNTAIN SHOWER FOCUS BECOMING  
ESTABLISHED AGAIN FROM TUESDAY ONWARD.  
 
TODAY'S GUIDANCE IS SHOWING MORE OF A HINT THAT SOME COMBINATION  
OF EITHER THE LEADING SHORTWAVE ENERGY (IF IT SEPARATES) OR A WEAK  
UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE MAY HELP TO PULL UP AN AREA OF ENHANCED  
MOISTURE FROM THE SOUTHEAST, WITH SOME OF THIS MOISTURE THEN  
PROGRESSING ACROSS THE ISLANDS WITHIN THE TRADE FLOW. THE 00Z GFS  
IS THE MOST PRONOUNCED WITH THE HIGHER PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES,  
SO PREFERENCE WOULD BE TOWARD AN AVERAGE OF OTHER SOLUTIONS.  
BEYOND THIS AREA OF POTENTIAL MOISTURE ENHANCEMENT, THERE ARE  
OTHER DIFFERENCES WITH MOISTURE ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS WITH MINIMAL  
CONFIDENCE AMONG INDIVIDUAL SOLUTIONS. THERE IS RELATIVE  
AGREEMENT THAT UPPER TROUGHING SHOULD AMPLIFY AND SHARPEN  
NORTHWEST OF THE STATE TOWARD FRIDAY-SATURDAY, SUPPORTING AN  
APPROACHING SURFACE FRONT. EXACT DISTRIBUTION OF ENERGY WITHIN  
THE TROUGH WILL DETERMINE THE POSITION/ORIENTATION OF THE FRONT  
AND HOW MUCH THE TRADES MAY WEAKEN AND/OR SHIFT TO BECOME MORE  
SOUTHEASTERLY. ASSOCIATED MOISTURE MAY EXTEND INTO THE WESTERN  
ISLANDS BY NEXT SATURDAY.  
 
RAUSCH  
 

 
 
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