664  
FXHW01 KWNH 230758  
PMDHI  
 
HAWAII EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
257 AM EST THU NOV 23 2023  
 
VALID 00Z FRI NOV 24 2023 - 00Z FRI DEC 01 2023  
 
EXPECT MODERATE TRADES AND WINDWARD/MOUNTAIN FOCUSED SHOWERS LATE  
THIS WEEK TO BE MOSTLY IN THE LIGHTER HALF OF THE SPECTRUM AS AN  
AREA OF ENHANCED MOISTURE DRIFTING ACROSS THE AREA DEPARTS. A  
FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE NORTHWEST MAY HELP TO WEAKEN THE TRADES  
AND TURN WINDS MORE SOUTHEASTERLY BY SATURDAY, WITH SEA BREEZES  
HAVING AN INFLUENCE ON SHOWER ACTIVITY. REGARDING THIS FRONT,  
GUIDANCE HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENT OVER THE PAST DAY IN  
EXACTLY HOW THE SUPPORTING TROUGH ENERGY SPLITS DURING THE  
WEEKEND. CONSENSUS NOW SHOWS A LESS AMPLIFIED TROUGH THAT PASSES  
BY TO THE NORTH, SO INTO MONDAY THE FRONT'S MOISTURE BAND STAYS  
NORTH OF THE MAIN ISLANDS (00Z GFS/ECMWF/CMC) OR GETS NO FARTHER  
SOUTH THAN THE NORTHERN ISLANDS (00Z GEFS/12Z ECENS MEANS).  
STILL, HIGH PRESSURE NORTH OF THE FRONT SHOULD PROVIDE A BRIEF  
RETURN OF MODERATE TRADES. MEANWHILE THE SOUTHERN TROUGH ENERGY  
THAT DROPS INTO A CLOSED LOW WEST OF THE STATE SHOULD OPEN UP AND  
ADVANCE EASTWARD BY EARLY NEXT WEEK, STARTING THE PROCESS OF  
DRAWING MORE MOISTURE NORTHWARD.  
 
THEN GUIDANCE IS CONSISTENT IN PRINCIPLE FOR RAPID  
AMPLIFICATION/SHARPENING OF UPSTREAM TROUGH ENERGY JUST WEST OF  
THE STATE DURING TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY AND PERSISTING INTO THURSDAY,  
WITH AN EMBEDDED UPPER LOW LIKELY TO FORM. THIS WOULD HELP TO  
DEVELOP SURFACE TROUGHING/LOW PRESSURE AND MORE  
SOUTHERLY/SOUTHEASTERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW OVER THE ISLANDS. THE  
LATEST GFS RUNS ARE MUCH CLOSER TO THE AVERAGE OF OTHER GUIDANCE  
ALOFT TODAY, THOUGH IT PULLS ITS SURFACE REFLECTION SOMEWHAT  
WESTWARD OF OTHER SOLUTIONS AND THIS MAY PLAY A ROLE IN ITS  
SOMEWHAT LOWER QPF IMMEDIATELY OVER THE ISLANDS COMPARED TO MOST  
OTHER GUIDANCE. THE 00Z CMC/CMCENS FORM A SLIGHT MINORITY CLUSTER  
THAT KEEPS THE CORE OF THE TROUGH NORTHWEST OF THE ISLANDS VERSUS  
THE GFS/ECMWF AND THEIR MEANS THAT ARE CLOSE TO DUE WEST. WITH  
THE ECMWF EXHIBITING SOME EAST-WEST WAFFLING FOR THE UPPER  
TROUGH/LOW (00Z RUN CLOSER TO THE WESTERN ISLANDS AND EAST OF THE  
PRIOR RUN AND 12Z ECENS/00Z GEFS), A MULTI-RUN AVERAGE OF  
ECMWF/GFS RUNS AND THEIR MEANS ALOFT LOOKS MOST REASONABLE. THEN  
WOULD FAVOR EXCLUDING THE WESTERN GFS FOR THE SURFACE REFLECTION.  
THIS GENERAL EVOLUTION SHOULD FURTHER INCREASE MOISTURE AND  
RAINFALL GOING INTO AND BEYOND MIDWEEK, AS INDICATED BY GUIDANCE  
BRINGING PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES UP TO TWO OR MORE STANDARD  
DEVIATIONS ABOVE NORMAL BY THURSDAY.  
 
RAUSCH  
 

 
 
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