577  
FXHW01 KWNH 020757  
PMDHI  
 
HAWAII EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
356 AM EDT WED OCT 02 2024  
 
VALID 00Z THU OCT 03 2024 - 00Z THU OCT 10 2024  
 
TODAY'S GUIDANCE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PATTERN EVOLUTION  
AT THE SURFACE BUT HAS MADE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES ALOFT.  
CONSENSUS STILL SHOWS MODERATE TRADES WITH PRIMARILY  
MOUNTAIN/WINDWARD SHOWER FOCUS THROUGH THURSDAY. THEN THERE SHOULD  
BE A PERIOD OF LIGHTER TRADES FRIDAY THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS FRONTS  
WEAKEN HIGH PRESSURE TO THE NORTH AND UPPER TROUGHING DEVELOPS  
OVERHEAD. THIS MAY ALLOW FOR SEA/LAND BREEZES TO AFFECT THE  
DISTRIBUTION OF RAINFALL LATE WEEK DURING FRIDAY-SUNDAY. TRADES  
SHOULD REBOUND TO MODERATE SPEEDS MONDAY-WEDNESDAY WITH A RETURN  
OF WINDWARD SHOWER FOCUS AS HIGH PRESSURE TO THE NORTH  
STRENGTHENS. THE 00Z ECMWF HAS AN EXTRANEOUS MID-LATITUDE SYSTEM  
THAT BREAKS THE RIDGE AGAIN TOWARD MIDWEEK BUT STILL SHOWS  
INCREASING TRADES.  
 
AS FOR FLOW ALOFT, RECENT GUIDANCE HAS BEEN QUITE DIVERSE AND  
VARIABLE FROM RUN TO RUN. TODAY'S NOTABLE SHIFT VERSUS 24 HOURS  
AGO IS TOWARD THE AXIS OF THE FORECAST UPPER TROUGH (WITH POSSIBLE  
EMBEDDED LOW) STAYING OVER OR VERY CLOSE TO THE MAIN ISLANDS INTO  
NEXT TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY VERSUS BEING ALIGNED SOMEWHAT FARTHER  
EAST. ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, THE MODELS AND ENSEMBLES LOOK MORE  
SIMILAR FOR THEIR DETAILS THAN THEY HAVE IN PREVIOUS DAYS AND THE  
LATEST MACHINE LEARNING MODELS ALSO CLUSTER IN LINE WITH THE  
DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE. THIS HELPS TO INCREASE CONFIDENCE RELATIVE TO  
PREVIOUS DAYS BUT RECENT HISTORY SUGGESTS FURTHER CHANGE IS  
POSSIBLE. THE CURRENT CONSENSUS FORECAST ALOFT COULD PROMOTE SOME  
ENHANCEMENT TO SHOWERS FROM THE WEEKEND INTO NEXT WEEK, WITH MOST  
GUIDANCE SHOWING RELATIVELY HIGHER PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES  
AROUND THE WEEKEND.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
 
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