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FXHW01 KWNH 040758  
PMDHI  
 
HAWAII EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
257 AM EST MON NOV 04 2024  
 
VALID 00Z TUE NOV 05 2024 - 00Z TUE NOV 12 2024  
 
EXPECT A WETTER PERIOD EARLY THIS WEEK WHILE MODERATE TRADES LEAD  
TO PRIMARY RAINFALL FOCUS OVER WINDWARD/MOUNTAIN LOCATIONS.  
GUIDANCE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT IN SHOWING AN AREA OF ENHANCED  
MOISTURE AND A SURFACE TROUGH PASSING THROUGH FROM EAST TO WEST,  
WITH WEAK SHORTWAVE ENERGY NEAR THE WESTERN ISLANDS AS WELL.  
THESE INGREDIENTS WILL COMBINE TO YIELD A POTENTIAL FOR LOCALLY  
HEAVY RAINFALL, ESPECIALLY OVER THE BIG ISLAND.  
 
AS HAS BEEN THE CASE IN RECENT DAYS, GUIDANCE DETAILS FOR  
SPECIFICS DIVERGE AFTER EARLY WEDNESDAY. THE ECMWF, AND THE ECMWF  
MEAN IN MORE MUTED FORM, REMAIN A DEEP EXTREME WITH THE TAIL END  
OF MID-LATITUDE TROUGH ENERGY THAT SHOULD PULL OFF TO THE  
SOUTH/SOUTHWEST INTO LATE WEEK. THE RESULTING UPPER LOW IN THE  
ECMWF PERSISTS JUST EAST OF THE STATE THROUGH THE WEEKEND AND  
YIELDS A WEAKER SURFACE GRADIENT/INVERTED TROUGHING FOR A TIME.  
OTHER DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE PLUS THE LATEST MACHINE LEARNING (ML)  
MODELS AGREE IN PRINCIPLE THAT THE UPPER ENERGY SHOULD BE  
WEAKER/MORE SHEARED NEAR THE STATE, WITH MOST OF THE ML MODELS  
SUGGESTING THAT THIS SHEARED ENERGY COULD FINALLY CONSOLIDATE INTO  
A WEAK UPPER LOW JUST SOUTH OF THE MAIN ISLANDS BY FRIDAY-SATURDAY  
AS UPPER RIDGING TO THE NORTH BEGINS TO BUILD EASTWARD. THIS ML  
MODEL CLUSTER FAVORS MORE OF A GFS-TYPE EVOLUTION, WHILE A  
MINORITY WOULD MAKE THE MORE SHEARED UKMET/CMC A PLAUSIBLE  
POSSIBILITY AS WELL. THE UPPER ENERGY/LOW FEATURE SHOULD DRIFT  
SLOWLY WESTWARD AND EVENTUALLY A LITTLE NORTHWEST.  
 
BASED ON THE FAVORED GFS OR NON-ECMWF COMPROMISE SCENARIO, A FRONT  
SHOULD REACH CLOSE TO OR INTO THE ISLANDS AROUND WEDNESDAY BEFORE  
STALLING, WITH A DRIER TREND AND STRONG NORTHEASTERLY WINDS LATER  
IN THE WEEK. STRENGTH OF THE UPPER ENERGY/LOW SOUTH OF THE  
ISLANDS WILL DETERMINE HOW MUCH OF A REBOUND IN MOISTURE MAY OCCUR  
DURING SATURDAY-MONDAY. TRADES SHOULD TURN MORE EASTERLY IN THIS  
TIME FRAME AND REMAIN FAIRLY BRISK AS SUPPORTED BY HIGH PRESSURE  
TO THE NORTH.  
 
RAUSCH  
 

 
 
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