821  
FXHW01 KWNH 050758  
PMDHI  
 
HAWAII EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
257 AM EST TUE NOV 05 2024  
 
VALID 00Z WED NOV 06 2024 - 00Z WED NOV 13 2024  
 
EXPECT ANOMALOUS MOISTURE AND A SURFACE TROUGH TO LINGER OVER THE  
ISLANDS THROUGH TUESDAY, THOUGH WITH GRADUAL TEMPERING OF HEAVIEST  
RAINFALL TOTALS. A COLD FRONT IS STILL SCHEDULED TO ARRIVE AROUND  
WEDNESDAY, FOLLOWED BY STRONG NORTHEASTERLY WINDS LATE THIS WEEK.  
GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW VARIOUS DIFFERENCES/TRENDS WITH  
ELONGATING UPPER LEVEL ENERGY JUST NORTHEAST/EAST OF THE ISLANDS  
THURSDAY-FRIDAY, FOLLOWED BY POSSIBLE CONSOLIDATION INTO AN UPPER  
LOW SOMEWHERE BETWEEN EAST AND SOUTH/WEST OF THE MAIN ISLANDS.  
THIS IS EVOLUTION IS SMALL IN SCALE AND THUS HAS FAIRLY LOW  
PREDICTABILITY FOR SPECIFICS. OVERALL THE DYNAMICAL AND MACHINE  
LEARNING (ML) MODELS HAVE TRENDED A LITTLE STRONGER WITH THIS  
ENERGY LATE THIS WEEK BUT THEY STILL SUGGEST THAT THE ECMWF IS TOO  
DEEP AND EASTWARD WITH ITS UPPER LOW BY SATURDAY. OVERALL THE  
LATEST ML MODELS SUGGEST THE WEAK UPPER LOW MAY TRACK A TAD SOUTH  
AND WEST OF THE 00Z GFS, CLOSER TO THE 00Z CMCENS MEAN. AS HAS  
BEEN THE CASE IN RECENT DAYS, THE ECMWF WEAKENS THE SURFACE  
GRADIENT COMPARED TO OTHER GUIDANCE BUT THIS DIFFERENCE IS NOW  
SOMEWHAT LESS PRONOUNCED THAN IT HAD BEEN.  
 
WINDS SHOULD BECOME MORE EASTERLY AND MODERATE SOME SPEED-WISE  
THIS WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK AS HIGH PRESSURE PROGRESSES  
EASTWARD ACROSS THE MID-LATITUDE PACIFIC. SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE  
TO FOCUS OVER WINDWARD/MOUNTAIN LOCALES, WITH A RELATIVE MIN IN  
PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES LATE THIS WEEK FOLLOWED BY ONE OR MORE  
AREAS OF GREATER MOISTURE DEPENDING ON THE DETAILS OF THE POSSIBLE  
UPPER LOW NEAR THE STATE.  
 
RAUSCH  
 
 
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