946  
FXHW01 KWNH 080759  
PMDHI  
 
HAWAII EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
258 AM EST SUN DEC 08 2024  
 
VALID 00Z MON DEC 09 2024 - 00Z MON DEC 16 2024  
 
GUIDANCE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT AND AGREEABLE WITH THE OVERALL LOW  
LEVEL PATTERN FOR THE COMING WEEK. AN INITIAL SURFACE TROUGH OVER  
THE AREA AND A FRONT APPROACHING FROM THE NORTHWEST BUT NOT QUITE  
REACHING THE ISLANDS WILL FAVOR LIGHT TO MODERATE TRADES THROUGH  
SUNDAY, LEADING TO A MIXED FOCUS FOR SHOWERS. THEN STRONGER TRADES  
WILL PREVAIL FROM MONDAY ONWARD AS MULTIPLE SURFACE HIGHS PASS BY  
TO THE NORTH, WITH RELATIVELY HIGHER WIND SPEEDS TENDING TO BE IN  
THE WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY TIME FRAME BUT POSSIBLY EXTENDING INTO  
FRIDAY. THIS PATTERN WILL RESUME A MORE PRONOUNCED  
WINDWARD/MOUNTAIN SHOWER FOCUS.  
 
HOWEVER, GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO VARY SOMEWHAT FOR SPECIFICS ALOFT  
ALONG WITH CORRESPONDING EFFECTS ON MOISTURE. DYNAMICAL MODELS  
STILL PULL OFF WEAK ENERGY ALOFT TO FORM AN UPPER LOW TO THE  
SOUTHWEST/SOUTH OF THE ISLANDS NEAR 10N LATITUDE BY MID-LATE WEEK,  
BUT WITH CONTINUED EAST-WEST SPREAD. THE CMC/CMCENS MEAN HOLD THE  
FEATURE FARTHEST EAST WHILE THE ECMWF/ECENS MEAN SHOW MORE  
RETROGRESSION. MACHINE LEARNING (ML) GUIDANCE HAS SHOWN MULTI-DAY  
OSCILLATIONS, REFLECTING AN INTERMEDIATE TIMING A COUPLE DAYS AGO,  
HANGING ON TO THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE SPREAD 24 HOURS AGO, AND NOW  
RETURNING TO A SOLUTION SIMILAR TO OR JUST A TAD SLOWER THAN THE  
00Z ECMWF. IT IS STILL A CLOSE CALL AS TO WHETHER THE NORTHERN  
PERIPHERY OF ENHANCED MOISTURE REACHES THE BIG ISLAND AND VICINITY  
AROUND LATE WEEK, WITH THE ECMWF/ECENS MEAN SHOWING MORE MOISTURE  
THAN THE GEFS MEAN. AT THE VERY LEAST, THE DYNAMICAL AND ML  
MODELS OFFER MINIMAL SUPPORT FOR THE 00Z GFS SOLUTION OF AN OPEN  
TROUGH ALOFT JUST EAST OF THE STATE BY SATURDAY AND PERSISTENCE OF  
FAIRLY HIGH PWATS THROUGH THE WEEKEND. THUS WOULD RECOMMEND AN  
AVERAGE OF THE ECMWF/ECENS MEAN AND GEFS MEAN FOR THE UPPER LEVEL  
AND MOISTURE FORECASTS.  
 
RAUSCH  
 

 
 
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