267  
FXHW01 KWNH 110755  
PMDHI  
 
HAWAII EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD  
255 AM EST SAT JAN 11 2025  
 
VALID 00Z SUN JAN 12 2025 - 00Z SUN JAN 19 2025  
 
LATEST MODELS AND ENSEMBLES AGREE FAIRLY WELL WITH THE FORECAST  
INTO THURSDAY. EXPECT MODERATE TO BRISK TRADES FROM THIS WEEKEND  
INTO MONDAY WITH A CORRESPONDING WINDWARD/MOUNTAIN RAINFALL FOCUS.  
A FRONT APPROACHING IF NOT QUITE REACHING THE AREA SHOULD BRIEFLY  
DISRUPT THE TRADES AROUND TUESDAY. CONSENSUS SHOWS GOOD  
CONTINUITY IN SHOWING AN UPPER LOW JUST SOUTH OF THE BIG ISLAND  
INTO EARLY MONDAY, LEADING TO A MODERATE INCREASE OF MOISTURE AND  
PERIODS OF ENHANCED RAINFALL ESPECIALLY OVER THE EASTERN SIDE OF  
THE BIG ISLAND. A GUIDANCE COMPROMISE STILL LOOKS GOOD FOR  
RESOLVING EXACT PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES. SHOWERS SHOULD BE  
LIGHTER TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY AS AN UPPER RIDGE BUILDS IN AND PWATS  
DECREASE SOMEWHAT. THEN DURING THE DAY THURSDAY, GUIDANCE  
CONTINUES TO SHOW A CENTRAL PACIFIC UPPER TROUGH BEGINNING TO  
AMPLIFY TOWARD THE STATE WITH AN ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT APPROACHING  
THE WESTERN ISLANDS.  
 
GUIDANCE DETAILS DIVERGE FROM LATE THURSDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. THE  
MOST PROMINENT DISCREPANCY INVOLVES THE 00Z GFS WHICH PUSHES THE  
OVERALL UPPER TROUGH AXIS FARTHER EAST THAN MOST OTHER  
DYNAMICAL/ML GUIDANCE (INCLUDING THE GEFS MEAN). THIS PUSHES THE  
COLD FRONT FARTHER EASTWARD AS WELL, WITH ENOUGH SURFACE RIDGING  
BUILDING IN BEHIND TO SUPPORT NORTHEASTERLY WINDS BY SATURDAY.  
OTHER DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE AND ML MODELS KEEP HIGH PRESSURE FARTHER  
WEST, MAINTAINING MORE NORTHERLY OR NORTHWESTERLY WINDS ON  
SATURDAY. MEANWHILE, THE 00Z ECMWF SCENARIO INITIALLY APPEARS A  
LITTLE EXTREME WITH ITS CLOSE UPPER LOW PROXIMITY TO THE NORTHEAST  
LATE IN THE PERIOD, BUT THREE OF FIVE 00Z ML MODELS ACTUALLY  
DEPICT AN UPPER LOW SIMILAR TO THE ECMWF (ACTUALLY TWO NEAR THE  
ECMWF AND ONE FARTHER WEST) SO IT SEEMS TO BE PLAUSIBLE ENOUGH TO  
INCLUDE AS PART OF A COMPROMISE WITH THE ENSEMBLE MEANS FOR AN  
OVERALL PREFERENCE. THIS FRONT MAY PRODUCE A BAND OF AT LEAST  
MODERATE RAINFALL, BUT WITH GUIDANCE STILL FAIRLY DIVERSE BETWEEN  
LIGHT AND SOMEWHAT HEAVY ACTIVITY.  
 
RAUSCH  
 

 
 
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