901  
FXUS66 KPDT 210620  
AFDPDT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PENDLETON OR  
1020 PM PST WED NOV 20 2024  
   
UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION  
 
   
AVIATION...06Z TAFS  
KDLS/KYKM ARE CURRENTLY IN MVFR WHEREAS  
THE REMAINING SITES ARE IN VFR. AS THE SYSTEM PASSES, WIDESPREAD  
PRECIPITATION WILL CONTINUE ACROSS THE PACNW. ALL SITES WILL HAVE  
MVFR/IFR CIGS AND VSBYS BETWEEN 11Z AND 01Z DUE TO RAIN. KPSC MAY  
EXPERIENCE LIFR CONDITIONS, RELATED TO CIG AT 300FT STARTING AT  
13Z BUT CONFIDENCE IS LESS THAN 30% ON WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL  
PERSIST. WINDS AT MOST SITES WILL BE LESS THAN 10KTS WITH THE  
EXCEPTION OF KALW GUSTING AT 24KTS THROUGH OVERNIGHT. FEASTER/97  
 
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
/ISSUED 827 PM PST WED NOV 20 2024/  
 
UPDATE...CURRENT RADAR AND INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWING  
SCATTERED LIGHT RETURNS PASSING THROUGH THE BASIN AND ACROSS THE  
BLUE MOUNTAINS FROM THE SOUTHWEST UNDER CLOUDY SKIES. THIS IS A  
RESULT OF THE STRONG UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM OFF OF THE WASHINGTON  
COAST, WHICH IS EXPECTED TO STALL OFFSHORE THROUGH THE REMAINDER  
OF THE WEEK.  
 
EDITS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS EVENING'S FORECAST UPDATE  
INCLUDE RAIN CHANCES, SKY COVER, AND WINDS OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS  
TO BETTER ACCOUNT FOR CURRENT CONDITIONS AND RECENT GUIDANCE.  
THE MAJORITY OF THE EDITS WERE RELATED TO WINDS ALONG THE  
NORTHERN BLUE MOUNTAIN FOOTHILLS (SPECIFICALLY AROUND CABBAGE  
HILL), WHICH ARE LINGERING LONGER THAN EXPECTED. THIS HAS  
WARRANTED THE EXTENSION OF THE WIND ADVISORY TO 9 PM. THIS MAY  
NEED TO BE EXTENDED ONCE AGAIN AS CURRENT OBSERVATIONS ARE  
REGISTERING SUSTAINED EAST WINDS OF 30-40 MPH AND GUSTS BETWEEN  
48-52 MPH. THE HRRR IS THE LONE PIECE OF GUIDANCE THAT IS  
INITIALIZING WELL WITH THESE EAST WINDS ALONG THE FOOTHILLS,  
WHICH HINTS AT DECREASING WINDS BETWEEN 11 PM AND MIDNIGHT  
TONIGHT. OTHERWISE, THE FORECAST IS ON TRACK AS THIS PERIOD OF  
UNSETTLED WEATHER CONTINUES. 75  
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
/ISSUED 428 PM PST WED NOV 20 2024/  
   
SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT  
ENSEMBLE NWP  
GUIDANCE IS IN EXCELLENT AGREEMENT THAT AN ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN  
WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE PERIOD, WITH CONCERNS STEMMING FROM A  
DEEP CLOSED LOW OFFSHORE THAT IS LOCATED IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC.  
 
A WIND ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6PM THIS EVENING FOR THE  
BASE OF THE NORTHERN BLUE MOUNTAINS OF OREGON. TONIGHT, WINDS ARE  
EXPECTED TO SLACKEN AS THE STRONG OFFSHORE SURFACE LOW NEAR 48.8N,  
132.2W RETROGRADES NORTHWESTWARD INTO THE PACIFIC. MOREOVER, 12Z  
HREF GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THE LOW- TO MID-LEVEL WIND FIELD WILL  
WEAKEN THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT SUCH THAT THE SUPPORT FOR  
WIDESPREAD ADVISORY-LEVEL WINDS MIXING TO THE SURFACE WILL BE LOW  
(<20% CHANCE).  
 
PRECIPITATION CONCERNS THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT WILL BE PLACED  
ALONG THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF OUR CWA FROM THE CENTRAL OR CASCADES  
TO THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF THE OCHOCO-JOHN DAY HIGHLANDS IN GRANT  
COUNTY. A STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY UPPER-LEVEL JET REMAINS OVERHEAD,  
AND MID-LEVEL WAA IS CURRENTLY FACILITATING A BROAD REGION OF  
LIGHT PRECIPITATION. WHILE THE BEST MOISTURE WILL REMAIN ON THE  
WEST SIDE OF THE CASCADES FROM SOUTHERN OREGON TO NORTHERN  
CALIFORNIA, ENSEMBLE MEAN PWAT ANOMALIES RANGE FROM 150-200% OF  
NORMAL. THIS REGION IS CO-LOCATED WITH A BROAD AREA OF ENSEMBLE  
AGREEMENT IN ANOMALOUS QPF FROM THE SOUTHERN BLUES INTO SOUTHEAST  
OR FROM 00Z THURSDAY UNTIL 00Z FRIDAY. WHILE THE HIGHEST VALUES OF  
THE ECMWF EFI (0.8-0.9) LIE ACROSS NORTHERN HARNEY AND MALHEUR  
COUNTIES, SOUTHERN GRANT COUNTY IS ALSO WITHIN THE BULLSEYE.  
MOREOVER, THE EFI FOR SNOW IS 0.6-0.8 FOR THE AFOREMENTIONED  
REGION. A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF CAMS ARE QUITE AGGRESSIVE WITH A BAND  
OF PRECIPITATION SETTING UP, BUT CONFIDENCE IN THE TEMPERATURES  
WITHIN THE BAND (AND PRECIPITATION TYPE FOR AREAS SUCH AS THE BEAR  
VALLEY AND THE BROADER OCHOCO-JOHN DAY HIGHLANDS ZONE) IS TOO LOW  
TO ISSUE ANY WINTER WEATHER PRODUCTS WITH THE AFTERNOON FORECAST  
PACKAGE. HIGH-END SNOW AMOUNTS (1-IN-10 CHANCE) COULD BE 5-8",  
WHILE LOW-END AMOUNTS (9-IN-10 CHANCE) ARE 0.5-1.5".  
 
SHIFTING FOCUS WESTWARD, CONFIDENCE IN IMPACTFUL SNOWFALL FOR THE  
CENTRAL OR CASCADES ABOVE 4500 FEET IS HIGH ENOUGH (80%) TO ISSUE  
A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY ABOVE 4500 FEET, VALID UNTIL 4AM PDT  
THURSDAY. FORECAST SNOWFALL AMOUNTS ARE 3-7", LOCALLY HIGHER.  
 
THURSDAY, ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE ADVERTISES THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANOTHER  
SURFACE LOW AS A VORTICITY LOBE TRACKS AROUND THE BASE OF ITS  
PARENT UPPER-LEVEL LOW AND INTERACTS WITH A BAROCLINIC ZONE OFFSHORE  
IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC. WHILE ALL ENSEMBLE SYSTEMS ARE IN  
EXCELLENT AGREEMENT THAT IT THE RESULTANT SURFACE LOW WILL TRACK  
TOWARDS THE PACNW THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, THERE IS STILL A RANGE  
OF SOLUTIONS IN TERMS OF HOW CLOSE IT WILL TRACK TO THE COAST.  
THIS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE MAGNITUDE OF WINDS ACROSS THE  
FORECAST AREA, AS WELL AS PRECIPITATION TOTALS. FORECAST  
UNCERTAINTY ASIDE, A WARM FRONTAL PASSAGE IS LIKELY (90% CHANCE OR  
GREATER) THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING. WITH AMPLIFIED  
SOUTHERLY TO SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT, THIS PATTERN FAVORS WINDS  
THROUGH THE GRANDE RONDE VALLEY AND ALONG THE BLUE MOUNTAIN  
FOOTHILLS. CONFIDENCE IN WIND HIGHLIGHTS IS MEDIUM (50-70%) AT  
THIS TIME FOR WIND-PRONE ZONES. WHILE WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION IS  
FORECAST, RISING SNOW LEVELS WITH THE WARM FRONT WILL LIFT  
CONCERNS ABOVE PASS LEVELS, AND LIKELY ABOVE THE HIGHEST  
ELEVATIONS FOR WHICH WE WARN (>5000-5600 FT).  
 
FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT, LOWERING SNOW LEVELS AND  
WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION MAY FACILITATE SOME WINTER WEATHER  
CONCERNS FOR AREA MOUNTAINS ABOVE 4500 FT, BUT CONFIDENCE IS LOW  
(<40%) IN THE NEED FOR ANY HEADLINES AT THIS TIME. PLUNKETT/86  
   
LONG TERM...SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY  
SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW  
AROUND LOW PRESSURE OFF THE BRITISH COLUMBIA COAST WILL START  
THE DAY ON SATURDAY. HOWEVER, AS THE LOW MOVES MORE NORTHWARD, THE  
FLOW WILL BECOME MORE WESTERLY AND DRIER CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED  
OUTSIDE OF THE MOUNTAINS. BRIEF RIDGING MOVES IN LATER SATURDAY  
INTO SUNDAY, BEFORE SOUTHWEST FLOW RETURNS SUNDAY NIGHT INTO  
MONDAY.  
 
ANOTHER UPPER LOW WILL APPROACH THE COAST OF SOUTHWEST  
OREGON/NORTHERN CALIFORNIA TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY. THIS WILL BRING  
ANOTHER ROUND OF INCREASED PRECIPITATION, MAINLY FOR THE  
MOUNTAINS.  
 
HOWEVER, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE LOW POPS OVER THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY  
NEXT WEEK, QPF VALUES ARE GENERALLY LOW AND FORECAST UNCERTAINTY IS  
HIGH DUE TO THE POSITION OF THE LOW. MOST AREAS WON'T SEE MORE  
THAN A FEW HUNDREDTH OF AN INCH OF PRECIPITATION, AND EVEN THE  
CASCADES (WHICH WILL LIKELY SEE THE MOST) MAY NOT SEE MORE THAN  
0.25 TO 0.30 INCHES, EXCEPT AT THE HIGHER PEAKS.  
 
THE ECMWF EFI DOES INDICATE QPF IN THE 0.7 TO 0.8 OVER THE BLUE  
MOUNTAINS ON SATURDAY, THOUGH QPF AMOUNTS ARE ONLY IN THE 0.5 TO  
0.20 INCH RANGE.  
 
AT 00Z MONDAY, THE ENSEMBLE CLUSTERS SLIGHTLY FAVOR THE ECMWF  
SOLUTION (36%). BY 00Z TUESDAY, THERE IS NO REAL FAVORED SOLUTION  
WITH ALL OF THE CLUSTERS ABOUT EQUAL. BY 00Z WEDNESDAY, THERE IS  
A FASTER AND SLOWER SOLUTION WITH RESPECT TO THE TROUGH/LOW AND  
THE PROBABILITIES ARE ABOUT EQUAL AT THIS POINT.  
 
 
 
   
PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS  
 
PDT 39 50 38 55 / 60 50 90 90  
ALW 41 50 41 57 / 70 60 80 100  
PSC 42 48 42 51 / 70 40 80 90  
YKM 32 44 33 48 / 70 40 90 90  
HRI 41 50 40 52 / 70 40 80 90  
ELN 30 42 33 47 / 60 50 80 90  
RDM 36 49 42 54 / 70 60 70 70  
LGD 37 44 41 50 / 70 70 80 100  
GCD 37 47 41 52 / 90 90 90 100  
DLS 41 50 42 52 / 70 40 90 90  
 
 
   
PDT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
OR...WIND ADVISORY UNTIL MIDNIGHT PST TONIGHT FOR ORZ507.  
 
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 4 AM PST THURSDAY FOR ORZ509.  
 
WA...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
SHORT TERM...86  
LONG TERM....77  
AVIATION...97  
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